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Post by annabella on May 13, 2019 13:29:37 GMT
So many wannabee influencers buy followers too. You only have to google and heaps of companies come up. About $40 for 5000 followers. If you are so inclined, you can look up influencers on SocialBlade and can see huge jumps in followers overnight with some people. This can happen if they have some sort of media exposure but mostly it is bought followers. I think a lot of companies are advertising this, but I think they are scams and don't actually follow through. I think $40 would only buy 100 followers, not 5000. That's a lot of work - 5000 fake accounts. At least with instagram you can see who has fake followers and instagram routinely shuts down fake accounts.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2019 13:57:42 GMT
I don't know shit about this topic. I don't have Instagram. The only twitterer I follow is the President (so I can verify he really is that stupid). And my youtube watching consists of old Dead shows. So I'm pretty much out of the loop. But after reading this thread and some others in the past here, it springboarded into an interesting conversation with my teens. We are having a group chat about it. My son thinks it's alright if the influencer has some kind of skill. He isn't into pop culture at all. My daughter's view is that influencers are the Kardashians of the internet. Both of my kids agreed that they think the people most likely to be impacted by influencers are 25-35 years old. My son's quote was that teens believe they are relevant. But as people move out of the teen years, they follow influencers in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. I found their opinions very interesting for 17 & 19.
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Post by LeaP on May 13, 2019 14:03:24 GMT
My daughters are following this closely. There are a number of YouTubers that are very questionable in my opinion. We have a former YouTuber now Instagrammer that rents a house on my block for $14,000/month <- not a typo. He is not a paragon you would hold up as role model, more a man child that will age out fame.
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Post by Zee on May 13, 2019 14:07:02 GMT
My daughters are following this closely. There are a number of YouTubers that are very questionable in my opinion. We have a former YouTuber now Instagrammer that rents a house on my block for $14,000/month <- not a typo. He is not a paragon you would hold up as role model, more a man child that will age out fame. I had no idea you was so fancy!
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Post by annabella on May 13, 2019 14:18:29 GMT
Both of my kids agreed that they think the people most likely to be impacted by influencers are 25-35 years old. Don't forget about all of the peas that follow the Get Your Pretty On. She's an influencer that found a way to monetize her business.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 13, 2019 14:23:44 GMT
Both of my kids agreed that they think the people most likely to be impacted by influencers are 25-35 years old. Don't forget about all of the peas that follow the Get Your Pretty On. She's an influencer that found a way to monetize her business. I didn't make any judgement whatsoever. In fact I said in my post that I don't know anything about any of it. I said I asked my teens. I figured they would be more in the loop than I am. I didn't expect the feedback that I got from them. I found it surprising. I would have thought they were the target market.
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Post by Delta Dawn on May 13, 2019 16:12:08 GMT
Sephora just had a sale and a few influencers got sponsored by Sephora. They most likely got $1000 to spend on makeup and posted what they got. I don’t mind that. The stuff that gets me is the shit they promote (poor performing) products they call roses. That’s where I draw the line and get pissed off at. One youtuber was excited because she had Revlon shampoo sponsor her commercial. I turned that off faster than I could spit. She has loads of money and said how much she liked Revlon haircare when in fact she is using super high end stuff and is bullshitting. She uses La Prairie makeup and uses Revlon shampoo? What a crock of shit. Then she said ‘do you really think I would endorse something I didn’t fully believe in?’ Fuck that. La Prairie vs Revlon? Give me a break. She is full of shit. You mad, bruh? Lol I almost never watch YouTube videos, I hate them. I hate sitting there watching someone put on makeup and telling you about the product in that same annoying voice they all have. Boring, boring, boring. Maybe it's their stupid voices and dumb comments that keep me from watching? I have looked up specific pallettes for reviews but it's almost painful to sit through some of these twats' videos. I just watch reviews of things and treatments I like. They part way through they say this has been sponsored by something I am not interested in and I feel duped.
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Post by refugeepea on May 13, 2019 18:03:11 GMT
I mean I dont own a dyson. Lol Hey get with the program. Shark is the one to buy now! I have bought a few things based on pea recommendations but it's been because I know it's something I will use. I will never ever ever ever ever give in and buy a diva cup.
Also, the peas usually are giving personal recommendations. If they are part of an MLM company or recommending one of their products, I am much more cautious
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Post by papersilly on May 13, 2019 18:05:06 GMT
i've slightly heard of these two people but i am not into make up videos so i don't watch their channels. curiosity got the best of me so i listened to the 43 minute Tati video.
my take is that James is young. his outlandish behavior will no doubt catch up to him. his subscribers are mostly young and at some point, they will grow up and outgrow him. people are fickle and the mass exodus from his channel makes that clear.
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Post by LeaP on May 13, 2019 22:01:59 GMT
My daughters are following this closely. There are a number of YouTubers that are very questionable in my opinion. We have a former YouTuber now Instagrammer that rents a house on my block for $14,000/month <- not a typo. He is not a paragon you would hold up as role model, more a man child that will age out fame. I had no idea you was so fancy! Me not fancy at all, the shock and awe of Los Angeles never wears off!
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Post by AllieC on May 13, 2019 23:00:21 GMT
So many wannabee influencers buy followers too. You only have to google and heaps of companies come up. About $40 for 5000 followers. If you are so inclined, you can look up influencers on SocialBlade and can see huge jumps in followers overnight with some people. This can happen if they have some sort of media exposure but mostly it is bought followers. I think a lot of companies are advertising this, but I think they are scams and don't actually follow through. I think $40 would only buy 100 followers, not 5000. That's a lot of work - 5000 fake accounts. At least with instagram you can see who has fake followers and instagram routinely shuts down fake accounts. I know of people that have done it and from looking today, the going rate is around $10 per 1000 followers. They are bot accounts so no real work involved and yes Insta is getting better at shutting these accounts down but there are still millions of the fake ones.
The thing is that some companies do not do due diligence and just look at the followers and not engagement. You can also buy likes which shows that your followers are engaging with you. The problems is that so many of the influencers get going with the fake stuff, seem to get sponsors which then attracts genuine followers and they become bigger than what they ever should be.
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Post by prettyprettypaper on May 14, 2019 3:55:30 GMT
Do you think that at some point this whole influencer world will crumble at one point? No, not at all. I think it's just human nature. Whether it's a radio ad, a commercial on TV, product placement, or a "social media influencer" on YT or IG, people like to put their trust in people they believe are experts on some level and would never lead them astray. I know of James but don't follow him as I don't relate to him. I enjoy watching videos about beauty and skincare products, but I like to watch videos of women closer in age to me, not people like James Charles. I don't think being influenced by social media is any different than being influenced by a commercial or a sales person. I do try to do my due diligence before buying by doing as much research as I can by reading reviews from multiple sites and watching videos from multiple people on YT.
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Post by oh yvonne on May 14, 2019 18:33:43 GMT
I follow Tati as well. I like her makeup reviews, she's always always honest about whether she likes a product or not. I'll check her out if I'm curious about an unfamiliar makeup brand. I love make up, but there is SO MUCH out there now. Every drug store has expanded their real estate to give makeup brands the prime spot in the store. Makeup is the new scrapbooking I enjoy YT, I don't watch all the time but when I do want to look up a makeup guru I like her. I wasn't aware of the drama until it was all over the news. JC makes my skin crawl and I don't think she did anything wrong by speaking up. By him promoting the other brand it made her look bad because she's been his biggest supporter. So if your friend is hawking your competitor's product it makes people wonder if yours is any good at all if not even your close friend won't support it. I get it. I also get that she tried telling him his behavior was disturbing and cruel the way he was manipulating and hurting innocent young men, and now it seems people are speaking out. He wields a lot of power, he was getting away with bullying and threatening people and she addressed it with him personally (he didn't deny that she did), and when he continued she'd had enough. The product pushing and how he lied about it was the last straw for her.
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