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Post by freecharlie on May 15, 2019 3:30:27 GMT
it may have to do with non-profit status.. and taxes. Girl Scouts insists that all fundraising by a troop must be used for the whole trip.. no individual accounts allowed.. and it is because of the tax laws for non-profits. so the organization should have explained this in advance.. but it is not uncommon. boy scouts has the money go into their individual accounts and I know the girl scout I bought cookies from got credited to her account so I don't think this is true.
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Post by freecharlie on May 15, 2019 3:30:55 GMT
Oh and I would be pissed and not volunteer anymore unless I really wanted to
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Post by cindytred on May 15, 2019 6:40:31 GMT
Seriously? I would pitch a fit if I was you. That's not fair and teaches that its okay to be lazy.
Cindy
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Post by auntkelly on May 15, 2019 12:13:07 GMT
I agree that it’s not fair, but it’s something which should have been discussed and agreed to before fundraising began.
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Post by tuva42 on May 15, 2019 15:43:23 GMT
This is an interesting case. Basically, if you raise funds and credit them to a child's account then your tax exempt status as a non-profit can be called into question: StoryFundraising Credits Are Not Charitable In the case, Capital Gymnastics Booster Club, Inc. versus Commission of Internal Revenue, the booster club argued that its tax-exempt status should be restored because its charitable mission was to foster amateur sports competition—in its case, the sport of gymnastics—and that its fundraising activities supported that mission. But the court ruled that the club’s fundraising practices benefited only certain athletes and families—or club insiders—which violates rules governing tax-exempt organizations. The judge also found that the club’s primary activity was the fundraising itself, which is not a charitable mission.
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Post by birdy on May 15, 2019 15:54:39 GMT
That is crazy! When DS attended church youth group they went to a huge conference in Kansas City. It cost around $500-600 per kid. They had several fundraisers and ONLY the kids that participated shared the profits. When he was in 5th grade they do a sleep away camp for a week as their big field trip. The year before that, in 4th grade, the district still allowed kids to fundraise on their own behalf. So, he did and made a good chunk of $ towards HIS trip. But in 5th grade, the district changed policy (per state requirement) and anything made from 5th grade year fundraiser had to be split evenly between all of the 5th graders whether or not they participated. This is unfair imo. I didn't have him participate for this one, in fact most parents didn't. Ugh! I feel for you!!! Maybe get a group of parents who are participating, like you, to take a stand so that EVERYONE has to participate.
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Post by stampinfraulein on May 15, 2019 20:05:45 GMT
That’s totally ridiculous. And that would be the END of my volunteering.
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Post by RosieKat on May 15, 2019 20:31:24 GMT
There *might* be something about how the club is set up that legally makes it that way. Sometimes things are set up as booster clubs etc. and there are tax rules about how funds can be raised and how they are distributed. I know there are situations that I run into in the world of club sports like this.
Whether they're legally obligated or not, I think there is an obligation to make the rules clear up front. Morally, I think those who work more should at least get a greater portion. In my little world where everyone follows my rules, I'd say maybe 50% of it is shared equally and the rest goes to those who worked to raise it. (Of course, then there's the issue of "Well, Susie was able to sell more popcorn at the concession stand and the people didn't come to my line!" and all those similar types of people who ruin it for the rest of us.)
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Post by mom2samlibby on May 15, 2019 20:36:38 GMT
There *might* be something about how the club is set up that legally makes it that way. Sometimes things are set up as booster clubs etc. and there are tax rules about how funds can be raised and how they are distributed. I know there are situations that I run into in the world of club sports like this. Whether they're legally obligated or not, I think there is an obligation to make the rules clear up front. Morally, I think those who work more should at least get a greater portion. In my little world where everyone follows my rules, I'd say maybe 50% of it is shared equally and the rest goes to those who worked to raise it. (Of course, then there's the issue of "Well, Susie was able to sell more popcorn at the concession stand and the people didn't come to my line!" and all those similar types of people who ruin it for the rest of us.) In a concession stand situation, profits are divided by the hours worked, at least in every fundraising event I've ever done.
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Post by tuva42 on May 15, 2019 21:23:20 GMT
Basically, if you are raising funds through a non-profit, to allow your child to go on a trip, and the funds go directly to your account, then you are NOT raising funds for the non-profit. You are raising funds to offset your costs. If the non-profit does that, then they are endangering THEIR non-profit status. They are raising funds for YOU and not for the non-profit.
This isn't my opinion, this is the opinion of a court.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 15, 2019 21:26:16 GMT
Our band has fundraisers for trips like this. You have your own account and how much work you do gets put into YOUR account. Totally validated. That's how our school did it as well. I would be pissed.
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