sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on May 29, 2019 21:27:27 GMT
What news outlet was that? 😨 I only had CNN alerts which said “Mueller: 'If we had had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so'” CNN. Oh that’s odd. I did not get that one at all.
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 29, 2019 21:38:10 GMT
I was watching CNN for a while too and the whole time they were reiterating that Mueller specifically said he could NOT exonerate trump or he would have. I don’t know how anyone could spin that any other way?
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Post by Skellinton on May 29, 2019 22:32:56 GMT
I was watching CNN for a while too and the whole time they were reiterating that Mueller specifically said he could NOT exonerate trump or he would have. I don’t know how anyone could spin that any other way? Willful ignorance.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 29, 2019 23:32:09 GMT
Napolitano, FOX news legal advisor. ** "Because this statement is 180 degrees from the four-page statement that Bill Barr issued at the time he first saw the report," Napolitano said. Asked by Fox Business host Stuart Varney if it was that bad, Napolitano replied, "I think so." “Basically he’s saying the president can’t be indicted, otherwise we would have indicted him, and we’re not going to charge him with a crime because there’s no forum in which for him to refute the charges, but we could not say that he didn’t commit a crime — fill in the blank, because we believe he did," he said. He later went on to say that the press conference from Mueller was bad for Trump and Barr, but "fodder" for Democratic lawmakers. ** Mueller said Wednesday that his office did not charge Trump with a crime because it “was not an option” under regulations from the Department of Justice about indicting a sitting president. He also said that "if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that.” ** thehill.com/homenews/media/446015-fox-news-legal-analyst-mueller-basically-said-trump-would-have-been-indictedMore at link! ** FOX News! Napolitano: Mueller's remarks on Russia probe are not good news for President TrumpIn his statement, Robert Mueller announced that he would be closing the special counsel's office, retiring from the DOJ, and would not testify further in regard to his Russia investigation. He also said that the report, of which a redacted full version was released in April, was clear in its language that his office could not determine that the president did not commit a crime. However, given the limitations of the special counsel's office within the Department of Justice, it was "not an option" to indict President Trump on an obstruction charge, Mueller said. ** Furthermore, Napolitano added that he could not say exactly why Mueller decided to speak publicly, but the result would not be good for President Trump. "He has ginned up all the Democrats to believe there must be a there there, and it was a parting shot at his soon-to-be former boss, Bill Barr, who basically whitewashed what Mueller said in the four-page summary he distributed back in March," he continued.** www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-napolitano-robert-mueller-trump
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on May 30, 2019 1:20:51 GMT
And yet, no matter what Mueller or any of the military leaders or intelligence agencies say, we will continue to ignore the Russian interference into the elections because admitting that it happened hurts someone's feelings too much.
Trump is not protecting the United States against an enemy that has attacked us. He is not protecting the United States against an enemy that continues to attack us. Russia views their actions as "information warfare." We have a country that is at war with us, but because the whiny brat in charge doesn't want to do anything about it, we are vulnerable and will continue to be vulnerable.
God help us when the Russians decide that it's time to move onto the next step in their war against us.
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Post by dewryce on May 30, 2019 1:23:01 GMT
And yet, no matter what Mueller or any of the military leaders or intelligence agencies say, we will continue to ignore the Russian interference into the elections because admitting that it happened hurts someone's feelings too much. Trump is not protecting the United States against an enemy that has attacked us. He is not protecting the United States against an enemy that continues to attack us. Russia views their actions as "information warfare." We have a country that is at war with us, but because the whiny brat in charge doesn't want to do anything about it, we are vulnerable and will continue to be vulnerable. God help us when the Russians decide that it's time to move onto the next step in their war against us. Yep. Mueller even made sure to point out how serious this was and that everyone needed to pay attention.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 1:37:04 GMT
And yet, no matter what Mueller or any of the military leaders or intelligence agencies say, we will continue to ignore the Russian interference into the elections because admitting that it happened hurts someone's feelings too much. Trump is not protecting the United States against an enemy that has attacked us. He is not protecting the United States against an enemy that continues to attack us. Russia views their actions as "information warfare." We have a country that is at war with us, but because the whiny brat in charge doesn't want to do anything about it, we are vulnerable and will continue to be vulnerable. God help us when the Russians decide that it's time to move onto the next step in their war against us. Yep. Mueller even made sure to point out how serious this was and that everyone needed to pay attention. Yes he did, loud and clear!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 2:03:13 GMT
MSNBC: Brian Williams, 11:00pm EDT, will show the whole Mueller statement tonight.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 2:29:55 GMT
If America doesn't investigate, arrest for subpoena violations, start impeachment and have a trial - WE WILL DESERVE THE OLIGARCHY (SEE: RUSSIA) WE GET IN 5-10 YEARS where EVERYTHING IS CORRUPT, EVERYONE IS EITHER BOUGHT OFF OR KILLED (SEE: RUSSIA), COMPANIES ARE LOOTED BY THOSE WILLING TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE (SEE: GAZPROM)
SERIOUSLY, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE AS LAWLESS AND CORRUPT AS ANY BANANA REPUBLIC WHEN WE ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THAT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WITH MONEY AND/OR VIOLENT MEANS.
I don't care if the Senate will not convict - they can be voted out after the Americans hear the details of the corruption of this administration.
The rule of law must be seen to be enforced or the law is nothing but words on paper that tyrants and oligarchs use as toilet paper.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 30, 2019 15:40:37 GMT
If America doesn't investigate, arrest for subpoena violations, start impeachment and have a trial - WE WILL DESERVE THE OLIGARCHY (SEE: RUSSIA) WE GET IN 5-10 YEARS where EVERYTHING IS CORRUPT, EVERYONE IS EITHER BOUGHT OFF OR KILLED (SEE: RUSSIA), COMPANIES ARE LOOTED BY THOSE WILLING TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE (SEE: GAZPROM) SERIOUSLY, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE AS LAWLESS AND CORRUPT AS ANY BANANA REPUBLIC WHEN WE ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THAT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WITH MONEY AND/OR VIOLENT MEANS. I don't care if the Senate will not convict - they can be voted out after the Americans hear the details of the corruption of this administration.
The rule of law must be seen to be enforced or the law is nothing but words on paper that tyrants and oligarchs use as toilet paper. worth repeating. LOUDLY. And often.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 18:40:56 GMT
Federal Prosecutors - in their own words.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 18:46:34 GMT
Federal Prosecutors - in their own words.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 18:49:34 GMT
Posting the whole article, sharing is good! Republican group to hand-deliver Mueller report to every GOP lawmakerBY REBECCA KLAR - 05/30/19 11:13 AM EDT A Republican group is hand-delivering special counsel Robert Mueller's report to every lawmaker in its party on the heels of his first public remarks on the two-year Russia investigation. Republicans for the Rule of Law announced Thursday it will deliver a copy of the report with highlighted sections to Republicans in Congress. "As Republicans and conservatives, we consider an uncompromising commitment to the rule of law in the best interests of both the Republican Party and the United States," the group said in a letter to lawmakers. "With this pre-highlighted copy of the Mueller report in hand, all Republicans in Congress will have an easy defense against charges of not having read it," the letter continues. On Wednesday, Mueller said the report is his testimony and he does not want to appear before Congress. He said everything that needs to be said is laid out in the 448-page document. Mueller reiterated during remarks at the Department of Justice headquarters that his investigation did not clear Trump, adding that Justice Department policy prohibits charging a sitting president with a crime. Along with the letter and highlighted report, Republicans for the Rule of Law released a video with three GOP-appointed federal prosecutors claiming Trump would have been indicted if he were not president. The prosecutors also discuss ways in which the report outlines Trump's alleged obstruction of justice. "The rule of law has always been a nonnegotiable principle of the conservative movement and the Republican Party. These veterans of the Reagan and Bush Administrations are reminding us that the law applies the same to everyone — even the president. Republicans and all Americans need to listen," said Chris Truax, a Republicans for the Rule of Law spokesman. Democratic calls for Trump's impeachment ramped up following Mueller's comments. Rep. Justin Amash (Mich.) crossed party lines earlier this month as the lone Republican endorsing impeachment. thehill.com/homenews/house/446140-republican-group-to-hand-deliver-mueller-report-to-every-gop-lawmakerHere is the video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwnMpneFR34
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trollie
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Post by trollie on May 30, 2019 19:02:37 GMT
If America doesn't investigate, arrest for subpoena violations, start impeachment and have a trial - WE WILL DESERVE THE OLIGARCHY (SEE: RUSSIA) WE GET IN 5-10 YEARS where EVERYTHING IS CORRUPT, EVERYONE IS EITHER BOUGHT OFF OR KILLED (SEE: RUSSIA), COMPANIES ARE LOOTED BY THOSE WILLING TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE (SEE: GAZPROM) SERIOUSLY, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE AS LAWLESS AND CORRUPT AS ANY BANANA REPUBLIC WHEN WE ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THAT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WITH MONEY AND/OR VIOLENT MEANS. I don't care if the Senate will not convict - they can be voted out after the Americans hear the details of the corruption of this administration. The rule of law must be seen to be enforced or the law is nothing but words on paper that tyrants and oligarchs use as toilet paper. Agreed! Congress needs to do it's job! This should not be about a political calculation, this should be about doing what is right. Plain and simple.
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pyccku
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Post by pyccku on May 30, 2019 20:39:44 GMT
If America doesn't investigate, arrest for subpoena violations, start impeachment and have a trial - WE WILL DESERVE THE OLIGARCHY (SEE: RUSSIA) WE GET IN 5-10 YEARS where EVERYTHING IS CORRUPT, EVERYONE IS EITHER BOUGHT OFF OR KILLED (SEE: RUSSIA), COMPANIES ARE LOOTED BY THOSE WILLING TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE (SEE: GAZPROM) SERIOUSLY, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE AS LAWLESS AND CORRUPT AS ANY BANANA REPUBLIC WHEN WE ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THAT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WITH MONEY AND/OR VIOLENT MEANS. Unfortunately, there are people who live in America who are fine with this because 1. Guns! Abortion! Jesus! 2. I'll be one of the powerful oligarchs, just wait and see! 3. At least it'll own the libs! You do not want to live in a country like Russia. You do not want to live under a system like the one Russia has. You do not want your future or your family's future to be at risk from the whims of someone with power. There is no justice under that system - the person with the better connections/more money wins, period. Whether you're the victim or the defendant, the outcome will be determined by who you know and how much you can pay to make the problem disappear. All these morons who think that somehow THEY are going to come out on top in a system like this - if you're so great, why aren't you on top right now? Here's a little hint: if you're a high school dropout who lives in a trailer park somewhere and depends on an assistance check each month because you can't manage to hold a job for more than 2 weeks, you are not going to be a VIP in the American version of Russia. Russia is full of peasants, you'll just be an American peasant under the rule of those who are smarter and more well-connected than you.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 21:06:53 GMT
If America doesn't investigate, arrest for subpoena violations, start impeachment and have a trial - WE WILL DESERVE THE OLIGARCHY (SEE: RUSSIA) WE GET IN 5-10 YEARS where EVERYTHING IS CORRUPT, EVERYONE IS EITHER BOUGHT OFF OR KILLED (SEE: RUSSIA), COMPANIES ARE LOOTED BY THOSE WILLING TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE (SEE: GAZPROM) SERIOUSLY, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE AS LAWLESS AND CORRUPT AS ANY BANANA REPUBLIC WHEN WE ANNOUNCE TO THE WORLD THAT THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WITH MONEY AND/OR VIOLENT MEANS. Unfortunately, there are people who live in America who are fine with this because 1. Guns! Abortion! Jesus! 2. I'll be one of the powerful oligarchs, just wait and see! 3. At least it'll own the libs! You do not want to live in a country like Russia. You do not want to live under a system like the one Russia has. You do not want your future or your family's future to be at risk from the whims of someone with power. There is no justice under that system - the person with the better connections/more money wins, period. Whether you're the victim or the defendant, the outcome will be determined by who you know and how much you can pay to make the problem disappear. All these morons who think that somehow THEY are going to come out on top in a system like this - if you're so great, why aren't you on top right now? Here's a little hint: if you're a high school dropout who lives in a trailer park somewhere and depends on an assistance check each month because you can't manage to hold a job for more than 2 weeks, you are not going to be a VIP in the American version of Russia. Russia is full of peasants, you'll just be an American peasant under the rule of those who are smarter and more well-connected than you. I'm reading 'Red Notice'. Scary as shi#(!
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PLurker
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Post by PLurker on May 30, 2019 21:09:27 GMT
Besides the ridiculous "some of the worst humans on earth" comment, trump is again talking in third person... "dislikes Donald Trump". It just occurred to me that he seems to do this when attaching a negative (by others, of course ) to himself. Like can't he say "They don't like ME." or is that too much for his fragile ego and he has to go all third person to distance himself. I'm going to have to pay more attention when he talks in 3rd person. Is it ever connected to a positive comment about himself? or is it then always 'me, me, me!'?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 21:15:54 GMT
Another payment toward the cost of Mueller!! Paul Manafort's Trump Tower condominium was formally forfeited to the U.S. government, according to Thursday court filings. The government also seized money in Manfort's Capitol One and Federal Savings Bank accounts, and his Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance policy, court filings show. President Trump's former campaign chairman pleaded guilty in September to one count of conspiracy against the United States and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice by witness tampering as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. The federal government moved on taking possession of Manafort's Manhattan condo last week. The 1,509 square foot condo at Trump's Fifth Avenue property is estimated at $2.5 million, according to the online real estate website Zillow. Manafort is incarcerated in a minimum security prison in Pennsylvania after being sentenced to 7 1/2 years earlier this year. ** thehill.com/homenews/administration/446227-manaforts-trump-tower-condo-formally-forfeited-to-government
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Post by thundergal on May 30, 2019 21:16:44 GMT
Barr is now saying that Mueller could have reached a decision/conclusion on obstruction. trump/Sarah Sanders implied the same thing this morning.
So now every reporter needs to be armed with this question:
"Is it the stance of this White House that the President CAN be indicted while serving in office?"
My god, these people are the worst. We sent our very worst human being to the White House.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 21:17:01 GMT
Unfortunately, there are people who live in America who are fine with this because 1. Guns! Abortion! Jesus! Guessing one the first actions will be taking their guns. Autocrats do not want the peons to have guns!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 22:27:26 GMT
Are people finally fed up w/the law-breaking, Russia-loving, press-hating, intelligence-officer-dissing, emolument-seeking grifter in the White House?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 22:31:53 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 30, 2019 22:49:09 GMT
So now every reporter needs to be armed with this question: "Is it the stance of this White House that the President CAN be indicted while serving in office?" Yes, oh yes!! ETA: over and over again! Every day!
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