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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 18:11:51 GMT
IMO, there was no need to play "Rocketman" when they could have used the actual songs in that concert (Your Song, Border Song, Take Me To The Pilot, Sixty Years On...), since THOSE songs were the ones who garnered such praise. That's your opinion (and you are entitled to it) but obviously like the person whose vision it was, I thought it was a genius way to do it and I thought it worked exceptionally well, and it's what made it a great (rather than a good movie) for me. That level of quirky storytelling doesn't always work, but this time it did. Like the Crocodile Rock number...obviously no-one levitated, BUT it made the point, this is where his career took off, this was the turning point and what a crazy (but great) way to illustrate that point. You get it and there's no need to over explain it all with dialogue. I go to the movies to be entertained...and this movie took me on the ride. If I want straight up facts and a chronological life story and discography, I can sit home and google that. True, but real longtime fans would LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE a true biography about him (not just his newest book that's out), with some cool stories and the truth. It's interesting enough to us and we don't need a Glee-type musical about it. His body of work speaks for itself. As great as Taron was, NO ONE and NOTHING could compare to the real deal back in the day, so it was not as good for me as the average person who appreciates his music.
As far as Renate, I agree, and I've heard Elton have regret (his 1 big regret) about his marriage to her. I think he knew it wouldn't work but wanted to try it anyway. Still, to come out of it and remain friends says a lot for both of them.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 1, 2019 22:23:53 GMT
I'm still not sure why brand new costumes needed to be created for a movie about Elton John. As if his actual costumes weren't enough... ? But they weren't creating costumes "for the movie" the challenge was to be inspired by Elton and to create something that he might have worn back in the day. Essentially it was just a twist on the Avant-garde challenge they do on most seasons, except this time the inspiration was Elton (and it was Elton because the movie was coming out a few weeks after the episode so it was a paid advertisement as well...that's how they make money to keep shows like this on the air) You misunderstood. The challenge wasn't for the movie, but the guest judge was the man who created new costumes for the movie. The movie had costumes that Elton John did not wear. It was a great challenge. At least several of the costumes were spot on. Even the costumes from the movie that were presented were Elton-like. Elton-like instead of actually Elton, though. Blurring history into historical fiction. People generally don't pay enough attention to understand the difference. Question - Does the movie show real photos or clips of Elton? Maybe at the end, even? That would be pretty awesome to see. My grandmother somehow wrote to Elton's "people" when I went thru a medical trauma as a kid, and she got a hand-written note from Elton along with access for me to his fan club which she gifted me with. I have a cousin who lost her mother to suicide when she was 4 years old. She has been a devoted Elvis fan ever since, as his music was something she could hold on to. Sounds like this is somewhat similar to your feelings about Elton John and now I totally get your passion. I saw EJ in concert a few years ago and it was one of the most disappointing concert experiences I’ve had. Aw, that stinks. It's gotta be so hard to try to put new life into the same old same old every single time you're on stage. Some shows are bound to be worse than others; you just don't want that to happen when it's one you're at.
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Post by Just T on Jun 1, 2019 22:40:37 GMT
Question for those of you who saw the movie: Were people dressed up in some way? I am thinking of doing something, but I don't know what.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 1, 2019 22:51:21 GMT
Question for those of you who saw the movie: Were people dressed up in some way? I am thinking of doing something, but I don't know what. I imagine that would be regional, I’d call around to the theaters you are considering going to.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 2, 2019 0:52:32 GMT
Question for those of you who saw the movie: Were people dressed up in some way? I am thinking of doing something, but I don't know what. I haven't seen the movie, but I love that you want to do that. If you do... I want to see a photo.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 2, 2019 0:54:33 GMT
Question for those of you who saw the movie: Were people dressed up in some way? I am thinking of doing something, but I don't know what. I imagine that would be regional, I’d call around to the theaters you are considering going to. I think it would be totally cool here at the theater we like to go to. Whenever there's a superhero movie, they have all kinds of artwork and/or artists set up in the lobby. Elton John's a superhero, right?
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Post by Just T on Jun 2, 2019 0:55:03 GMT
I imagine that would be regional, I’d call around to the theaters you are considering going to. I haven't seen the movie, but I love that you want to do that. If you do... I want to see a photo. I won't do anything too crazy. I am thinking of buying a tshirt from Amazon that says The Bitch is Back, but it's $20, and I know I will never wear it again. LOL I was also thinking of feather boas. I actually bought 3, for me, my brother and his partner, who told me he won't wear it because he is not that gay. LOL I may just wear the boa and some crazy EJ glasses, just for the photo op. LOL
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 2, 2019 0:57:40 GMT
I may just wear the boa and some crazy EJ glasses, Totally appropriate, in my not-so-humble opinion. Hope you have a terrific time!
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Post by Just T on Jun 2, 2019 0:59:10 GMT
I may just wear the boa and some crazy EJ glasses, Totally appropriate, in my not-so-humble opinion. Hope you have a terrific time! Thanks! I am sooooo looking forward to it! I better not get there and find out they saw it without me. LOL
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Post by Just T on Jun 2, 2019 1:01:13 GMT
We thought about getting tickets to his concert when he was in St. Louis back in the fall (I live near STL) but the cheapest seats were so ridiculous. I would have paid it, just about anything, really, to see an EJ concert with my brother. This movie is the next best thing.
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Post by alexa11 on Jun 2, 2019 2:15:22 GMT
I'm a child of the 70's and grew up with his music. I have most of his albums- yes albums- and will never part with them. I only saw him in concert once, with Billy Joel, about 12-15 yrs ago maybe? He was older and not doing the wild shows anymore or the costumes. He just sat at his piano and sang and it was wonderful! I will see this movie.
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Post by trollie on Jun 2, 2019 2:32:14 GMT
Saw it this afternoon. Loved it!
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Post by pjaye on Jun 2, 2019 3:09:31 GMT
The movie had costumes that Elton John did not wear. I saw PR and I've seen the movie... and for the most part in the concert scenes the costumes were fairly close to real life. In some cases almost identical, in others they were close but a bit more modern and glammed up. There were one or two that he didn't wear but I can appreciate why the designers may have made that choice, for example he talks about the Elizabeth costume in the movie:
I have no issue with a bit of artistic licence every now and then as long as it stays true to the spirit of what really happened...esp in a movie like this where it's not a strict documentary.
Plus it's only a 2hr movie, so part of the creative vision is to use things like the costumes to help tell the story, and when you read the designer's rationale it makes perfect sense. Using the costumes exactly as they were originally wouldn't have had the same storytelling impact. .
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Post by pjaye on Jun 2, 2019 3:19:04 GMT
Question for those of you who saw the movie: Were people dressed up in some way? I am thinking of doing something, but I don't know what We saw it the morning it was released and no-one was dressed up. However it was probably too soon for that to happen yet. I think in the weeks to come as people go back and see it again there will probably be dress up sessions, but at this stage most people really don't know what to expect of the film so it probably didn't occur to therm. But I say go for it, it is the sort of film where it is (or will be) appropriate. You might be the person that starts the trend!
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Post by likescarrots on Jun 2, 2019 3:24:48 GMT
I saw it yesterday and loved it. It was a surprise to me that it was a musical. I thought it was going to be a film with music, like A Star is Born, rather than an actual musical. I saw EJ in concert a few years ago and it was one of the most disappointing concert experiences I’ve had. The tickets cost a fortune, but I love his music and was so excited to be seeing a real legend but it was completely lacklustre. It was if he is is so talented and it is all so effortless to him, he truly had to put in no effort and he didn’t. Sat at his piano, looked bored, sounded bored, very little chat and what there was you could tell was the same-old-same-old he’s churned out thousands of times before. No atmosphere at all. I might as well have just stuck his album of greatest hits on and listened to that. I'm shocked to hear that. I saw him in February on the farewell tour and it was amazing. Cost a fortune but well worth it. And his band, I don't know how a bunch of people that age can pull off 2 full hours of that, but I was super impressed.
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Post by phoenixcov on Jun 2, 2019 10:08:27 GMT
I remember one of the support groups called Longdancer. I loved them and bought their album the day after the concert. Reading this thread I just started singing If It was so simple and I remembered all the words. Memory isn`t as bad as OH makes out.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 2, 2019 13:27:50 GMT
I saw it yesterday and loved it. It was a surprise to me that it was a musical. I thought it was going to be a film with music, like A Star is Born, rather than an actual musical. I saw EJ in concert a few years ago and it was one of the most disappointing concert experiences I’ve had. The tickets cost a fortune, but I love his music and was so excited to be seeing a real legend but it was completely lacklustre. It was if he is is so talented and it is all so effortless to him, he truly had to put in no effort and he didn’t. Sat at his piano, looked bored, sounded bored, very little chat and what there was you could tell was the same-old-same-old he’s churned out thousands of times before. No atmosphere at all. I might as well have just stuck his album of greatest hits on and listened to that. WOW that is shocking I have seen him a couple of times and in some terrible conditions and he was amazing! Once in an outdoor concert in England it was pouring with rain, and he went on and played in the rain! Someone had to dry his key board between every song and he just played and sang and made it fun! He did slip into singing in the rain a few times! I have never been so cold or wet and happy to be so! I saw Van Morison once and he was awful, bored, couldn't decide what to play etc. Then he would leave the stage when it was barely sprinkling. I love his music, I guess everyone has an off night. Sucks when you spend so much for tickets!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 2, 2019 13:29:13 GMT
I imagine that would be regional, I’d call around to the theaters you are considering going to. I haven't seen the movie, but I love that you want to do that. If you do... I want to see a photo. I won't do anything too crazy. I am thinking of buying a tshirt from Amazon that says The Bitch is Back, but it's $20, and I know I will never wear it again. LOL I was also thinking of feather boas. I actually bought 3, for me, my brother and his partner, who told me he won't wear it because he is not that gay. LOL I may just wear the boa and some crazy EJ glasses, just for the photo op. LOL I love it. you should start the trend!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:16:04 GMT
But they weren't creating costumes "for the movie" the challenge was to be inspired by Elton and to create something that he might have worn back in the day. Essentially it was just a twist on the Avant-garde challenge they do on most seasons, except this time the inspiration was Elton (and it was Elton because the movie was coming out a few weeks after the episode so it was a paid advertisement as well...that's how they make money to keep shows like this on the air) You misunderstood. The challenge wasn't for the movie, but the guest judge was the man who created new costumes for the movie. The movie had costumes that Elton John did not wear. It was a great challenge. At least several of the costumes were spot on. Even the costumes from the movie that were presented were Elton-like. Elton-like instead of actually Elton, though. Blurring history into historical fiction. People generally don't pay enough attention to understand the difference. Question - Does the movie show real photos or clips of Elton? Maybe at the end, even? That would be pretty awesome to see. My grandmother somehow wrote to Elton's "people" when I went thru a medical trauma as a kid, and she got a hand-written note from Elton along with access for me to his fan club which she gifted me with. I have a cousin who lost her mother to suicide when she was 4 years old. She has been a devoted Elvis fan ever since, as his music was something she could hold on to. Sounds like this is somewhat similar to your feelings about Elton John and now I totally get your passion. I saw EJ in concert a few years ago and it was one of the most disappointing concert experiences I’ve had. Aw, that stinks. It's gotta be so hard to try to put new life into the same old same old every single time you're on stage. Some shows are bound to be worse than others; you just don't want that to happen when it's one you're at. Strangely most of the costumes/clothes in the movie looked precisely like what I have pics of him actually wearing. The background people had accurate clothes on, but it had to be a tough thing to create since they flopped between 1968-1998.
As far as the real clips of Elton, the ONLY one I spotted was the video for, "I'm Still Standing". They inserted Taron into the video. You could see the difference in film. Everything else was all made for the film and nothing was from Elton's concerts or footage of Elton.
I'm so sorry about your cousin. I can't imagine, but that music can bring us right through years of pain and rough times. It is amazing and the devotion to the singer never goes away--it's very special.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 14:31:19 GMT
Question for those of you who saw the movie: Were people dressed up in some way? I am thinking of doing something, but I don't know what. Not where I live down here, but generally when I go to an Elton concert I wear my tiara, a vintage Elton concert shirt and a boa. My glasses are already Elton-inspired, so I'm all set. The Elton fanclub that I belong to had a list of items you should wear..... The tiara is always one of them! I have a pic that Elton posted from the opening in Lincoln Center. Most people just wear the glasses.......
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