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Post by katlady on Jun 19, 2019 0:10:34 GMT
Sitting Presidents have a good track record for being re-elected to a second term. I hate to say this, but unless something drastic happens I can see Trump being re-elected. His base is very loyal and there are too many people out there who don’t care enough to get out and vote.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 0:29:55 GMT
Do I want him to? No
Will he? I am 99.999999% sure he will
Will I still vote? Hell freaking yeah
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 19, 2019 0:34:37 GMT
No. I think the republicans who actually care about country over party and who are paying attention to news sources beyond trump himself and Fix News can see that he has no idea what he is doing (on both foreign and economic policy), that he lies continuously, and that he has made very little impactful changes (for things that republicans actually care about) l on our government and policies since coming into office. Also, I think people are sick of his bullshit.
The Dems need to actually show up and vote for the dem candidate. Independents need to vote for the dem candidate. There cannot be this mass 3rd party voting like there was in 2016. If that happens again WE ARE FUCKED.
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 19, 2019 0:36:33 GMT
Also, jimmy carter didn’t get re-elected, and neither did George Bush Sr. For recent history comparisons. Trump has NOTHING wrapped up with a shiny red bow just yet. 😉
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Post by dewryce on Jun 19, 2019 0:40:20 GMT
No. I think the republicans who actually care about country over party and who are paying attention to news sources beyond trump himself and Fix News can see that he has no idea what he is doing (on both foreign and economic policy), that he lies continuously, and that he has made very little impactful changes (for things that republicans actually care about) l on our government and policies since coming into office. Also, I think people are sick of his bullshit. The Dems need to actually show up and vote for the dem candidate. Independents need to vote for the dem candidate. There cannot be this mass 3rd party voting like there was in 2016. If that happens again WE ARE FUCKED.Can I ask what helped form your opinion stated in the first paragraph? I’d love for it to be true, but I haven’t personally seen a lot of that. Hearing someone else’s experience with that would do a lot of good for my soul right now. As for the bolded...yes, completely agree.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 19, 2019 0:43:13 GMT
Sitting Presidents have a good track record for being re-elected to a second term. I hate to say this, but unless something drastic happens I can see Trump being re-elected. His base is very loyal and there are too many people out there who don’t care enough to get out and vote. Honestly, if seeing Trump & his administration’s actions and watching the party in charge shirk their constitutional oversight duties doesn’t get people out to the poles in droves, I don’t know what will.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 19, 2019 0:52:25 GMT
I really do think he is going to get re-elected. It makes me sick to my stomach, but I really think that the ignorant, incorrigible, and hateful will turn out to vote just because they want to win to support the narrative that Trump is selling.
I just don’t think the Democrats will turn out in the numbers necessary to win. I don’t think the Democratic nomination is going to be anyone exciting enough to bring the Dems out to vote.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 19, 2019 0:53:45 GMT
Do I want him to? No Will he? I am 99.999999% sure he will Will I still vote? Hell freaking yeah My answer also. I do not think the democrats have their act together to nominate a strong candidate. It's not Biden nor any of the others....we're sunk
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 19, 2019 0:53:51 GMT
No. I think the republicans who actually care about country over party and who are paying attention to news sources beyond trump himself and Fix News can see that he has no idea what he is doing (on both foreign and economic policy), that he lies continuously, and that he has made very little impactful changes (for things that republicans actually care about) l on our government and policies since coming into office. Also, I think people are sick of his bullshit. The Dems need to actually show up and vote for the dem candidate. Independents need to vote for the dem candidate. There cannot be this mass 3rd party voting like there was in 2016. If that happens again WE ARE FUCKED.Can I ask what helped form your opinion stated in the first paragraph? I’d love for it to be true, but I haven’t personally seen a lot of that. Hearing someone else’s experience with that would do a lot of good for my soul right now. As for the bolded...yes, completely agree. I live in a very right leaning corner of Michigan. Republicans galore over here (though there are a lot of us Dems. The hardcore ones are out protesting Fred Uptons office almost every Friday! 😂👍). The middle ground Republicans here are PISSED and displeased with his inability to effectively govern. I have a lot of friends whose families have farms that have been in their families for generations. They are upset.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 19, 2019 0:55:07 GMT
The way Trump is going right now he will implode before the election. He is becoming more eradic every single day.
Each time one of his roadblocks gets pushed aside he becomes a little more unraveled. But, I will say his supporters don’t seem to have any line in the sand, that they would no longer support him.
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Post by LiLi on Jun 19, 2019 0:55:57 GMT
Unfortunately, I think he likely will. The right is so determined to "get back" at the left they will come out in droves in vengeance, just to show us how bad we are, it's all our fault. They are just so gleeful about it.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jun 19, 2019 1:05:31 GMT
Do I want him in again? Nope
Could he? Yes
The only plus for me is the entertainment of his “fake” news proclamations and his tweets. It’s entertaining how he tries to get others to believe what he believes. He has been successful with that because he does have a following. I would like to believe that following understands now that he has a lot of hot air in his lungs.
Oh and hey, maybe by then he will actually release his tax returns. Yeah, yeah....I know don’t hold my breath.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jun 19, 2019 1:07:06 GMT
I wish I could say I thought he wouldn't get re-elected. But I didn't expect him to get elected in the first place, so I have no idea what to think about his chances for re-election.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 19, 2019 1:09:10 GMT
Can I ask what helped form your opinion stated in the first paragraph? I’d love for it to be true, but I haven’t personally seen a lot of that. Hearing someone else’s experience with that would do a lot of good for my soul right now. As for the bolded...yes, completely agree. I live in a very right leaning corner of Michigan. Republicans galore over here (though there are a lot of us Dems. The hardcore ones are out protesting Fred Uptons office almost every Friday! 😂👍). The middle ground Republicans here are PISSED and displeased with his inability to effectively govern. I have a lot of friends whose families have farms that have been in their families for generations. They are upset. I can not tell you how much I needed to hear this right now. Sincerely, thank you. I am (stupidly) following some news about this rally and the number of people in our country that are more than okay with what is going on in our country right now is making me very, very sad.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 19, 2019 1:13:13 GMT
Do I want him to? No Will he? I am 99.999999% sure he will Will I still vote? Hell freaking yeah My answer also. I do not think the democrats have their act together to nominate a strong candidate. It's not Biden nor any of the others....we're sunk The thing is, the Democrats should be able to nominate any intelligent person with even a smidgen of experience and they should win hands down. I personally think a shoe should be elected over him but I understand that is not reasonable. There is no excuse for voting for Trump. Absolutely none.
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Post by lisae on Jun 19, 2019 1:16:16 GMT
Too early to tell. Despite the desire to elect anyone else with a pulse, the Democratic nominee will make a lot of difference. Also, how will the economy be a year from now? It's looking like it could be going bad by then but the economy is still strong, it may be hard to get rid of him.
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Post by Zee on Jun 19, 2019 1:17:42 GMT
Nothing and I mean nothing regarding this man would surprise me one bit. He won once, has tons of support from half the country, and is aided and abetted by foreign interests. His supporters aren't bothered a bit by any negative press at all.
As he once said, he could walk down Wall Street (idr what street he actually named, but close enough) and shoot someone and he'd get away with it. They'd say how great it is that our president took care of an obvious threat, no questions asked. The only thing we can do is wait it out. I don't think we have any Democrat contenders strong enough to beat this moron or the stupidity, fear, and hatred that lurks in our country.
I fully believe social media has had a huge impact on stoking the flames of fear and causing uneducated (ok, many educated as well) white people in particular to be scared of losing power, so they're going to preserve it any way they can. It's like the 1820s all over again. Would be interesting to skip 200 years into the future and read what is written about this upcoming election, and when the balance of power will shift again.
White women willing to give up their reproductive rights to put "God back in the White House" and let their men make those tough decisions for them when that man Trump has never been interested in religión until it served him to do so. Wake up. It sickens me
All I can do is fight the good fight and vote and donate to causes I believe in.
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Post by PLurker on Jun 19, 2019 1:30:32 GMT
I voted no because, in spite of my last "despair" post on other thread I always think people (as a whole) will do the right thing. Not that one person but people in general. I have to believe just like last election with people not sharing their plans to vote for the fungus-among-us some (hopefully a lot) of them will see he has become dangerous and crazy and will vote against him in the private voting booth.
At least that's my hope to save my sanity.
And people that didn't care enough to vote need to come out.
My DS19 is kind of a black/white seeing person. He has always said in the past that he would have a hard time voting for the best of two evils. Meaning he prefers to vote FOR someone not just AGAINST someone else. If the past 2.5 years has changed anything in him it is that he is determined to vote for just about damn near anyone except the above mentioned "fungus-among-us."
There needs to be more of him.
I need to believe there are and will be. to save my sanity.
This madness needs to be over.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 19, 2019 2:17:58 GMT
I honestly honestly hope that I am not right, but I think things will be just as close. Esp if we don't get a good Democratic runner. We need someone that can rock the party, like Trump is doing.
Here's the thing. Republicans STILL love Trump. They think he is doing a good job. They think he is saving the USA. honestly, they do. I have 2 aunts that are die hard Republicans, and their many friends that are, and I had to hide their FB pages because i just could not take it anymore. They are totally behind the pro-life anti-abortion laws, totally behind Trump and immigration. They are totally behind all the money Trump is bringing in to the USA, and the improved economy. They are all fully behind him on those things. They dont' approve of the things he sometimes say, but that doesn't matter, as long as he is doing those other things. he's a christian and those democrats are savages. Eyeroll. I know. I know. I just can't believe people still believe all of that, but they honestly do. It's scary
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Post by PLurker on Jun 19, 2019 2:27:42 GMT
"Not donald trump" I hope it's catching.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 19, 2019 2:45:18 GMT
His entire rally tonight was chock full of lies.
And the brainwashed based lapped it up.
Funny that the trumpists have become the “echo chamber” and “sheeple”.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 19, 2019 2:55:45 GMT
The fucking idiot just stated that they were going to cure cancer. As part of his election promises.
What a fuckweasel.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 19, 2019 2:57:22 GMT
The fucking idiot just stated that they were going to cure cancer. As part of his election promises. What a fuckweasel. Joe Biden said that last week.
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Post by dewryce on Jun 19, 2019 3:12:15 GMT
I honestly honestly hope that I am not right, but I think things will be just as close. Esp if we don't get a good Democratic runner. We need someone that can rock the party, like Trump is doing. Here's the thing. Republicans STILL love Trump. They think he is doing a good job. They think he is saving the USA. honestly, they do. I have 2 aunts that are die hard Republicans, and their many friends that are, and I had to hide their FB pages because i just could not take it anymore. They are totally behind the pro-life anti-abortion laws, totally behind Trump and immigration. They are totally behind all the money Trump is bringing in to the USA, and the improved economy. They are all fully behind him on those things. They dont' approve of the things he sometimes say, but that doesn't matter, as long as he is doing those other things. he's a christian and those democrats are savages. Eyeroll. I know. I know. I just can't believe people still believe all of that, but they honestly do. It's scary What do they say about his obvious racism, his corruption, his lack of transparency, his fighting Congress tooth and nail on their oversight duties, his ruining our relationships with our allies, etc.? Do they even discuss it?
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Post by lucyg on Jun 19, 2019 3:17:18 GMT
"Not donald trump" I hope it's catching. Don’t get your hopes up. Hardly a single major newspaper endorsed him in 2016, but he still won.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 19, 2019 3:19:44 GMT
The fucking idiot just stated that they were going to cure cancer. As part of his election promises. What a fuckweasel. Joe Biden said that last week. But when Joe Biden says it, he means it. I mean, maybe it won’t happen, but he cares. He lost his son to cancer. He really wants to cure it. When Trump says it, it’s just another lie. He couldn’t care less about curing cancer other than does it make him look good? He is despicable. And the cultists like him that way.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 19, 2019 3:23:10 GMT
if the democrats put up someone worth voting for, maybe not. if not, probably so.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 19, 2019 3:23:20 GMT
I honestly honestly hope that I am not right, but I think things will be just as close. Esp if we don't get a good Democratic runner. We need someone that can rock the party, like Trump is doing. Here's the thing. Republicans STILL love Trump. They think he is doing a good job. They think he is saving the USA. honestly, they do. I have 2 aunts that are die hard Republicans, and their many friends that are, and I had to hide their FB pages because i just could not take it anymore. They are totally behind the pro-life anti-abortion laws, totally behind Trump and immigration. They are totally behind all the money Trump is bringing in to the USA, and the improved economy. They are all fully behind him on those things. They dont' approve of the things he sometimes say, but that doesn't matter, as long as he is doing those other things. he's a christian and those democrats are savages. Eyeroll. I know. I know. I just can't believe people still believe all of that, but they honestly do. It's scary What do they say about his obvious racism, his corruption, his lack of transparency, his fighting Congress tooth and nail on their oversight duties, his ruining our relationships with our allies, etc.? Do they even discuss it? Nothing about racism, but most are very anti LBGT. That’s not Christian. Congresss etc are all just crooked, and purposely getting in the way of his great plans. Other countries are taking jobs away, we are the USA, they should be listening to us...oooh yea. There’s an excuse for it all. Never mind he treats women like dogs, they probably deserve it.. ie hilary, pelosi, Warren, etc
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Post by papersilly on Jun 19, 2019 3:25:52 GMT
Just like he had a stunning win, I hope he has a stunning loss.
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Post by PLurker on Jun 19, 2019 3:27:41 GMT
Joe Biden said that last week. But when Joe Biden says it, he means it. I mean, maybe it won’t happen, but he cares. He lost his son to cancer. He really wants to cure it. When Trump says it, it’s just another lie. He couldn’t care less about curing cancer other than does it make him look good? He is despicable. And the cultists like him that way. It's all a competitive reality show for trump. He doesn't care about or mean most of what he says. He just wants to be the last one standing and remain in that spotlight that he's craved his entire life. Every time I see him, I see the body language of a strutting peacock crossed with a moth attracted to the light(s). Not a sincere bone in his body. Choose me, love me. I demand it.
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