LeaP
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Jun 26, 2014 23:17:22 GMT
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Post by LeaP on Jun 24, 2019 5:25:08 GMT
The knitting and crochet community:
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Post by gar on Jun 24, 2019 8:00:27 GMT
Wow! I imagine that's not going to go down smoothly!
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muggins
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Post by muggins on Jun 24, 2019 8:04:26 GMT
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Post by heather on Jun 24, 2019 8:59:47 GMT
Good for them!
I know during the Obama administration, there were posts that led to Secret Service visits. So there’s quite a bit of history of ugly posts by some conservatives there.
Note I said some conservatives. And yes I’m sure you can find ugly posts by liberals too. But it’s Casey’s website and he can do what he wants and people can choose to participate or not.
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wellway
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Jun 25, 2014 20:50:09 GMT
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Post by wellway on Jun 24, 2019 9:29:29 GMT
There would appear to be whole sections of Ravelry that has passed me by. I'm just there for the inspiration.
Next time I must have a better look around!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 10:23:29 GMT
I dabble in knitting. I have a scarf that is 4 months in the making and is still not even half done. I support ravelry in this decision. I even bought a pattern I had favorited a while back from a designer who happens to be queer.
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Post by gillyp on Jun 24, 2019 11:21:48 GMT
There would appear to be whole sections of Ravelry that has passed me by. I'm just there for the inspiration. Next time I must have a better look around! Me too! I don’t have a clue what much of the site is about, unfortunately. Well done to the owner for making a stand though.
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Post by lisae on Jun 24, 2019 11:38:15 GMT
I use Ravelry only to find patterns and have never used any of their discussion boards. So I don't know how political things have gotten. I think if they are going to ban Trump, they should ban all political discussions and anything that promotes any particular candidate. It makes a less interesting board not to discuss politics but you can't pick and choose even if you have a good reason with one particular person.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 24, 2019 11:44:19 GMT
There would appear to be whole sections of Ravelry that has passed me by. I'm just there for the inspiration. Next time I must have a better look around! This is the way I feel too. I've been a ravelry member for years. But I have never traveled to the discussion boards at all. This all has got me curious.
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ashley
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Post by ashley on Jun 24, 2019 12:00:05 GMT
To me, Trump represents much more than politics... he’s a vile person who offends what it is to be human.
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Post by busy on Jun 24, 2019 12:13:11 GMT
I use Ravelry only to find patterns and have never used any of their discussion boards. So I don't know how political things have gotten. I think if they are going to ban Trump, they should ban all political discussions and anything that promotes any particular candidate. It makes a less interesting board not to discuss politics but you can't pick and choose even if you have a good reason with one particular person. Of course you can pick and choose. Trump supporters aren’t a protected class and it’s not the government limiting anyone’s speech. It’s a privately owned site and they are perfectly within their rights to make this choice.
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anniebygaslight
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Jun 28, 2014 14:08:19 GMT
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 24, 2019 12:24:39 GMT
Good for them.
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Post by tracyarts on Jun 24, 2019 12:52:09 GMT
I've only used the site to search for free patterns. I guess the political stuff happens in the discussion groups?
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 24, 2019 12:57:32 GMT
I was going to say "people fight about politics on a knitting site?" But then I remembered how I got here... Good for them. It must have been pretty gross over there.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 24, 2019 12:59:29 GMT
I use Ravelry only to find patterns and have never used any of their discussion boards. So I don't know how political things have gotten. I think if they are going to ban Trump, they should ban all political discussions and anything that promotes any particular candidate. It makes a less interesting board not to discuss politics but you can't pick and choose even if you have a good reason with one particular person. It depends. For some it's "less interesting," but when people are out there debating your humanity (and if you want some examples, check out Trump supporters on Twitter howling about how they don't want black and brown people here), it's psychologically violent.
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pyccku
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Jun 27, 2014 23:12:07 GMT
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Post by pyccku on Jun 24, 2019 13:02:05 GMT
It’s a private site. Just like chik-fil-a has the right to not support gay people, hobby lobby has the right to play Jesus music while secretly stealing artifacts from the Middle East and ted “I shit my pants to stay out of Vietnam” nugent has the right to keep doing whatever it is he does, they have the right to ban anything they like.
Although I’m sure there will be plenty who cry “muh first amendment” as if a knitting site were in any way associate with the government.
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 24, 2019 13:09:52 GMT
It’s a private site. Just like chik-fil-a has the right to not support gay people, hobby lobby has the right to play Jesus music while secretly stealing artifacts from the Middle East and ted “I shit my pants to stay out of Vietnam” nugent has the right to keep doing whatever it is he does, they have the right to ban anything they like. Although I’m sure there will be plenty who cry “muh first amendment” as if a knitting site were in any way associate with the government. I would just like to applaud you for going in on Hobby Lobby and Ted Nugent like that just now. (You know the free speech folks are about to show up any minute to crow about needing to let their racist bullshit be heard.)
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Post by jennyap on Jun 24, 2019 13:14:42 GMT
I'm very happy to see this. I too rarely use the forums there - I find them a bit challenging to navigate, frankly - so I have been pretty well protected from any ugliness there, but I fully support the site owners in their stance.
I find the majority of patterns I make on Ravelry - no doubt I will now miss out on a few as some designers will withdraw from the site as a result of this policy, but that's a small price to pay. I can find *plenty* of designs to keep me busy (realistically, more than I can ever hope to complete in my lifetime) and now I will know that those I use are from designers who are happy with the policy.
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Post by jennyap on Jun 24, 2019 13:16:15 GMT
Although I’m sure there will be plenty who cry “muh first amendment” as if a knitting site were in any way associate with the government. You called it Idiots.
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Post by elaine on Jun 24, 2019 13:18:24 GMT
I met Casey at a MD Sheep & Wool Festival years ago, when Ravelry was relatively new. We were both wearing the same exact t-shirt (pirate shirt that said y- arrrrr - n! I liked him then and like him now. It is his site, his rules. If he doesn’t want White Supremacy support, in any form - including supporting Trump and his White Supremacist administration- I’m a-okay with his prohibiting it. eta: I just found the picture. I can’t believe it is already 10 years old! Taken in May 2009. Here are Casey and I in matching shirts:
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ellen
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Post by ellen on Jun 24, 2019 13:19:37 GMT
Now the Trump fans can boycott something they've never freaking heard of. Good for Ravelry. I have bought a couple crochet patterns there in the past and will make it a point to support their site.
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purplebee
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Jun 27, 2014 20:37:34 GMT
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Post by purplebee on Jun 24, 2019 13:26:16 GMT
This decision gives me a small measure of hope for the future. Great news!
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sueg
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Post by sueg on Jun 24, 2019 14:25:11 GMT
I've only used the site to search for free patterns. I guess the political stuff happens in the discussion groups? Not just in the discussion groups. There have been a number of very political, pro-Trump patterns posted recently as well.
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scrapngranny
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Jun 25, 2014 23:21:30 GMT
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 24, 2019 15:03:42 GMT
I completely support Ravelry. Those against white supremacy need to speak up loudly.
I have been a member for years. At one time I belonged to several different groups, there was even a group for Two Peas. As the time passed I lost interest in the groups and just use the site for knitting inspiration.
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Post by tracyarts on Jun 24, 2019 15:13:15 GMT
I guess they were using the site as a platform. I've seen that kind of thing elsewhere online. Groups that have nothing to do with politics having people start inserting political messages into content and it's weird in that it's so out of context. Not general anything goes forums like this one, but ones that are topic specific. I've only used the site to search for free patterns. I guess the political stuff happens in the discussion groups? Not just in the discussion groups. There have been a number of very political, pro-Trump patterns posted recently as well.
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milocat
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Post by milocat on Jun 24, 2019 15:26:44 GMT
I was going to say "people fight about politics on a knitting site?" But then I remembered how I got here... Good for them. It must have been pretty gross over there. That's what I was thinking, where is it getting political? But I've only bookmarked patterns and I did join a few groups that have chat threads. I guess there could be a NSBR/not yarn related area I've never explored it that much.
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sueg
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Post by sueg on Jun 24, 2019 15:43:42 GMT
I was going to say "people fight about politics on a knitting site?" But then I remembered how I got here... Good for them. It must have been pretty gross over there. That's what I was thinking, where is it getting political? But I've only bookmarked patterns and I did join a few groups that have chat threads. I guess there could be a NSBR/not yarn related area I've never explored it that much. On Ravelry, there are user created forums, so they exist for just about any topic you could think of. There are quite a number of political groups with forums, but I don’t tend to go there. But there are groups for yarn stores, dyers, designers etc, some of which are well worth searching out.
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tracylynn
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 24, 2019 15:47:36 GMT
I use Ravelry only to find patterns and have never used any of their discussion boards. So I don't know how political things have gotten. I think if they are going to ban Trump, they should ban all political discussions and anything that promotes any particular candidate. It makes a less interesting board not to discuss politics but you can't pick and choose even if you have a good reason with one particular person. Sure you can. And it appears he did. His board, his rules.
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breetheflea
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Post by breetheflea on Jun 24, 2019 15:50:33 GMT
Good. I have an account there, but haven't been knitting lately so haven't logged in in a while.
Another group I'm part of, not for knitting another hobby of mine, bans all political and religious posts, and it's kind of nice to not have the drama.
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Post by finsup on Jun 24, 2019 16:05:22 GMT
I'm with those of you who had never been to their forums so had no idea this was an issue. But after reading about this I made a visit and found a thread about showing the ugliest thing you've ever made so I got some good chuckles this morning.
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