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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 25, 2019 20:14:23 GMT
My advice as a diabetic: let her manage it. The fastest way to get me non-compliant with my diet and meds to have anyone (My doctor, sister, anyone) start "in" on me about my numbers. Being compliant then feels like I have given them control. The only way **I** have control is to do what they don't want me to do. A doc visit where she lectures about my high A1C will result in me stopping for a banana split on the way home.. guaranteed. When my dd was mature enough, we turned over management of her diabetes to her. One of the reasons I try to give my daughter some privacy with her medical personnel is because it can get hard for me to continue to bite my tongue.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 25, 2019 20:26:01 GMT
hop2 said: And yes I know I have my own skeletons in my closet for how I ‘allowed’ my ex ass to act towards his children I’m working thru that with them. I have total respect for you. You own it. And I pray your children give you grace. I pray my children give me grace too. Hugs, my friend. I just have to tell you, at the risk of sounding like a weirdo. You just seem like such a beautiful person. I wish I could be half as kind, thoughtful, and sweet as you. Your posts on this thread have me tearing up. That is a very kind thing to say and I feel it's undeserving. I reread my initial post to the OP before I went to bed and I tried to see it through the eyes of a concerned mother and I rested very uneasy last night wishing I could take it back. I didn't mean to be but I felt like maybe it had some sting that I didn't intend. I admit, I have been having difficulty myself and I over the past few days I have had to, in therapy sessions, retrieve a lot of painful childhood memories so it was very fresh in my mind. You think you deal with those demons and then years later you find yourself in need of help yourself and then you have to rip off scabs of old wounds and you feel them just as you did 30 years ago. And maybe I wasn't in the best place for this post. Maybe I should have closed the app and walked away last night. And anyway, I am just having some second thoughts about my initial response. I appreciate your kindness. You don't know it, but I needed it today.
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Post by trixiecat on Jun 25, 2019 20:33:15 GMT
I am in the middle also of something similar/but not identical as you are. My son has ADHD and anxiety (I think). He is 19 and IF he showers he doesn't use soap and alot of the times no shampoo. He can't keep a job. Just walks out. He has no problem running with friends who pick him up and walking around with no money. His prior therapist told us he is very sensitive (which I am aware of) and she told us to give him the total tough love treatment. We haven't gotten there and tried that yet (but are close), but what resonates int he back of my mind is what if he has so much anxiety, or untreated ADHD or mental health (his birth father said he was manic depressive and my son is adopted), that he is incapable at this point of fully functioning as an adult. He is 19. My point is, it is a fine line to walk. She has had alot to deal with emotionally. Some people are stronger than others. I hope her new therapist gives her a new twist on life. And sometimes therapists don't know everything. Our son's therapist told us to play hard school and kick him out. She did it with her daughter. Guess what...her daughter had not one but two safe places to land with relatives. They supported her enough to live with them and come to reality. My son has no where to go...no relatives and I am sure his friends' parents would not take him in for the long term. Maybe one night.
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Post by trixiecat on Jun 25, 2019 20:35:22 GMT
Jeremy's girl, I always think you are such a good person and have true responses. You are so open all the time and I really appreciate your honesty.
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Post by tara on Jun 25, 2019 22:24:12 GMT
Your story reminded me so much of what we went through with our daughter. She had health problems and was so depressed. She didn’t want to be alive anymore. She was gay. I’ve always known ever since she was a little girl. She was always different. I just stuffed it in the back of my mind and didn’t think about it and lied to myself because I was raised and was very involved in my church. My husband and I raised her in the same church. She had to sit there and listen every week of her life how bad she was and how much God hated her because she was a homosexual. It really messed with her mind. Especially when she tried to pray the Gay away and it didn’t work. She came out to me about six years ago. Like I said it wasn’t a surprise. A voice spoke inside my head and told me not to ever let anyone tell me my daughter is disgusting. I let her know that I love her and it wasn’t a big deal to me. I never stepped foot in another church again. A little bit after that, her doctor put her on antidepressants. She is so happy now and she is thriving.
I don’t mean any disrespect but when I read your post the first thing I thought of was your husband was an ass but then I remembered I used to be an ass too. Your husband really needs to stop and think of what he’s doing to her. Would he rather see her happy that her daddy accepts her for who she is or would he rather go to her funeral? There has been a lot of youths in her position that has killed themselves. I don’t mean to scare you but that’s just reality. If your husband still can’t accept her, I really don’t think I could be married to someone like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 22:46:08 GMT
I am in the middle also of something similar/but not identical as you are. My son has ADHD and anxiety (I think). He is 19 and IF he showers he doesn't use soap and alot of the times no shampoo. He can't keep a job. Just walks out. He has no problem running with friends who pick him up and walking around with no money. His prior therapist told us he is very sensitive (which I am aware of) and she told us to give him the total tough love treatment. We haven't gotten there and tried that yet (but are close), but what resonates int he back of my mind is what if he has so much anxiety, or untreated ADHD or mental health (his birth father said he was manic depressive and my son is adopted), that he is incapable at this point of fully functioning as an adult. He is 19. My point is, it is a fine line to walk. She has had alot to deal with emotionally. Some people are stronger than others. I hope her new therapist gives her a new twist on life. And sometimes therapists don't know everything. Our son's therapist told us to play hard school and kick him out. She did it with her daughter. Guess what...her daughter had not one but two safe places to land with relatives. They supported her enough to live with them and come to reality. My son has no where to go...no relatives and I am sure his friends' parents would not take him in for the long term. Maybe one night. Give him time.... you will know when to intervene. Up to that point my only rules were , wash your clothes and no food in your room.
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Post by tara on Jun 25, 2019 22:53:26 GMT
She needs counseling and probably treated for counseling. You probably need to back off and treat her as an adult. Stop micromanaging her. Don't facilitate her doing things (money or rides) the man has basically said she is going to hell (sinner) and that he does not love her enough to be at her wedding and SHE is the one that needs to not be absolute. He is probably the trigger for some of her behaviors. Is there a family member she could get away to for a couple of weeks to a month? The she could be away from his disapproval and your being overbearing (I'm think she probably feels that way) Thank you for posting, freecharlie. She is in counseling. I'm not sure what you meant by treatment for counseling... depression? She is being treated for depression and anxiety. We're trying to treat her as an adult. The only micromanaging I am doing now is her diabetes, and even that isn't as much as it was. She has to be able to take care of herself. She earns very little money doing some extra jobs around the house. I don't give her rides or extra money, well rides if she has done what she was supposed to do. Her father said some awful things. The reason I said she is being so absolute is that he has told her that he is open to seeing things differently. He is examining why he feels the way he does. He is open and trying. He behaved very poorly at first, and has apologized for making her feel they way he has. I'm absolutely sure he is a trigger for some of her behaviors. Over time, his approach to her has changed. I know he's trying, at the same time, I don't blame her for being resentful, at all. She may be able to stay with a friend for a couple of weeks. We're talking about that. I probably am overbearing to her. After I got over all of the religious dogma that I had in my head, I asked myself why it bothered me to think about my daughter with another woman. But then I tried to picture her in bed with a man and that bothered me. Lol. She might have been an adult but she was still my little girl. I didn’t want to picture her having sex with anyone, male or female. I’m also a very private person. I don’t talk about my sex life to anyone. It’s no ones business besides me and my husband. My daughter is an adult and she deserves the same privacy. It doesn’t matter who she sleeps with. It’s not our business. It’s not your husband business who his daughter wants to sleep with. She is an adult. Once your husband realizes that, it will make things better
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jun 25, 2019 23:23:40 GMT
It sounds to me like you need to be consistent with your rules, expectations and consequences. She has gotten away with a lot of things for a long time due to “not feeling well” and not taking care of herself is benefitting her.
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Post by candleangie on Jun 26, 2019 3:01:22 GMT
We dealt with a very similar scenario with my oldest. He has very advanced Crohn’s disease, add, depression and anxiety. If he’s left to his own devices, he will stick his head in the sand and ignore all of the above....because who needs a large intestine, right? 🙄
What finally worked for us was an epic change of direction. For what it’s worth, this is what we did.
I asked him to spend a little time thinking about what he wants his adult life to look like. I asked very specific questions. Where would you like to live... house/apartment/suburb/down town? What will you do after work each night? Meet friends for a drink? Go hang with your board game group? Head home and do what? What do you want to be able to do on the weekends? Hiking? Gaming?trip to the beach?
Then we worked backwards from there. Okay.....what kind of job will you need to be able to live that life? What do you need to do to get to that place? What are some potential roadblocks to this life? How can they be removed? Do you need help with those tasks? (This is the first place where his health comes into play)
It helped a TON for him to see that we weren’t just trying to get him to live to our standard. We really want him to get to the life that HE wants for himself.
Re: self care....we made it a condition for living in our home that he seek and follow through with treatment for his Crohn’s, ADD and anxiety. I go to the first half of the appointment and then excuse myself so he can speak privately with the dr if he needs to. I will continue to do this until all three of us (him, me and the dr) agree that his conditions and medications are well managed. He can opt to move out if he doesn’t want this. It’s an absolute if he’s going to live here and not open for negotiation. This is the only hard line we’ve drawn.
I can see your frustration with the dog. I have a thought though. As adults, if we take on a pet and we want to go somewhere overnight, then we have to make arrangements for the care of that pet. What if you told her “hey, I don’t have a problem with you being gone overnight, as long as you make arrangements for the dog before you leave. If none of us are available, you will need to take him with you or change your plans.” (Now the ticket is to only say yes when it’s actually convenient for you and you truly don’tind doing it.)
Anyway, I feel for you. It’s horrible to be at odds with your kid, especially when you’re so worried about them ((Hugs))
Hang in there mom.
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Post by lauradrumm on Jun 29, 2019 8:37:13 GMT
Have y’all considered the Dexcom to monitor her glucose continuously? Is she on insulin? If so consider an insulin pump like Omnipod. She needs to get herself medically fit before she can conquer the rest. Diabetes greatly affects one’s moods and brain functions. I hope she has a good endocrinologist.
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