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Post by MichyM on Jul 19, 2019 14:25:31 GMT
Thanks girls. That application was such a surprise! I ended up filling out a second one for a different rescue which was similar but slightly less invasive. So...as you all say, apparently it is the norm.
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 19, 2019 14:29:41 GMT
I work for a vet school. I'm in the process of adopting a kitten that was part of a study. Their questions were related to other animals I have, do I rent/own, how long I've lived in my place, if I have a regular vet, and will the cat be indoors only. I've looked at rescues, but they want too much info. I'll freaking buy an animal before I go through the hoops they want.
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Post by gryroagain on Jul 19, 2019 15:02:16 GMT
It's no wonder that people continue to frequent pet stores and backyard breeders. I’ve never got this line of thinking. I mean yes, if you want to stick it to a rescue you think is absurd, contributing to the rampant proliferation of poorly bred, impulse bought animals is the way to do it. Since rescue has to pick up the pieces and all. But isn’t that something that would make one a poor candidate for pet ownership in the first place? When my kids were small I wanted a lab. Lab rescues wouldn’t adopt to us, no fence because military housing. So I went to the ASPCA, told them what I wanted, checked in weekly, and had Cleo in about 6 weeks. Paid the $75 for spay and registration (maybe shots? I can’t remember) and off we went. It is ridiculously easy to adopt at pounds and most ASPCAs that function as the local animal control. Given the vast numbers of dumped pets in the US, it would seem responsible lifetime owners are more the exception than the rule. So rescues want to weed them out. I mean, I know all the peas are perfect pet owners 😂 but the numbers just don’t work for that in many areas of the US. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 19, 2019 15:08:23 GMT
I work for a vet school. I'm in the process of adopting a kitten that was part of a study. Their questions were related to other animals I have, do I rent/own, how long I've lived in my place, if I have a regular vet, and will the cat be indoors only. I've looked at rescues, but they want too much info. I'll freaking buy an animal before I go through the hoops they want. Those are all normal questions! |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jul 19, 2019 15:10:38 GMT
I mean yes, if you want to stick it to a rescue you think is absurd, contributing to the rampant proliferation of poorly bred, impulse bought animals is the way to do it. I doubt it has anything to do with "sticking it to a rescue" as much as just being unwilling to submit to invasive questioning and unreasonable requirements that some rescues have. |
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Post by scrapcat on Jul 19, 2019 15:30:45 GMT
I think that is almost the same or very similar application to the one I filled out last year for my adoptees, so maybe it is a generic thing among rescues? It is kinda long, but I think it hits on the necessary points they need to evaluate.
I also had a home inspection done. They basically just want to make sure you are not a hoarder. As soon as she stepped in she was like "oh ok I know this is fine", but she was very excited to see the fireplace where they will curl up in the winter (which they did do!)
I thought it kinda odd and felt very insecure, but then again you read about all of these horrible situations with ppl taking animals they cannot care for properly. So a bit of an inconvenience, but worth it!
I think a kitten would probably be best for your other cat so she can set the rules and almost "raise" it to how she likes. good luck in your quest! so exciting
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Post by Tammiem2pnc1 on Jul 19, 2019 15:42:39 GMT
This is why I won't adopt through a rescue. The hoops they make you jump through makes it almost impossible. I understand some questions, but it just gets to be too much. There is a little feed and farm store not far from us that adopts out barn kittens. All I have to do is fill out a form with my name and address and they keep that on record.
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Post by ladytrisha on Jul 19, 2019 16:04:54 GMT
There was an urgent request for an adopter needed for a black lab/pit mix at a shelter in L.A. County.
So we drive out there, several people are there to see him and we're chatting with a couple who are waiting to see the dog.
The shelter administrator apparently has a thing against pits so if you want to adopt one, you have to bring your dogs to the shelter to see if they get along.
I said I'm sorry, I'm an adult, had dogs all my life and the very last thing I'm doing is taking my rescue dogs back to a shelter environment (ie scary chaos) to see if they and another dog "click".
Sadly, we found out that the dog was then sent to South L.A. with other pit bulls ... poor thing didn't stand a chance. And I'm forever soured on that shelter.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jul 19, 2019 16:08:32 GMT
The shelter administrator apparently has a thing against pits so if you want to adopt one, you have to bring your dogs to the shelter to see if they get along. what are the odds that any two dogs will 'get along' like buddies at the very first meeting, anyway? Any responsible pet owner will go through an introductory process to introduce their pets to a newcomer gradually. So I don't see what this *momentary meeting in a random, strange environment* would accomplish, anyway. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 19, 2019 17:24:18 GMT
We ended up buying our dog because the rescues were so intense. They wanted to schedule a face to face meeting with all members of the household on a weekday. So they wanted me to pull my kid out of school and both my husband and I take a day off work, after filling out the 13 page application. We were denied a German Shepherd Dog by the GSD rescue. We ended up getting our GSD from a breeder. I think many people are pushed to breeders by SOME rescues. Most breeders have a 2-3 page application. My Samoyed breeder was able to make a perfect match without asking over reaching questions and without an in home meeting. We did have an in person meeting at a dog show were we both ‘interviewed’ each other. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 19, 2019 17:38:51 GMT
It's no wonder that people continue to frequent pet stores and backyard breeders. I’ve never got this line of thinking. I mean yes, if you want to stick it to a rescue you think is absurd, contributing to the rampant proliferation of poorly bred, impulse bought animals is the way to do it. Since rescue has to pick up the pieces and all. But isn’t that something that would make one a poor candidate for pet ownership in the first place? When my kids were small I wanted a lab. Lab rescues wouldn’t adopt to us, no fence because military housing. So I went to the ASPCA, told them what I wanted, checked in weekly, and had Cleo in about 6 weeks. Paid the $75 for spay and registration (maybe shots? I can’t remember) and off we went. It is ridiculously easy to adopt at pounds and most ASPCAs that function as the local animal control. Given the vast numbers of dumped pets in the US, it would seem responsible lifetime owners are more the exception than the rule. So rescues want to weed them out. I mean, I know all the peas are perfect pet owners 😂 but the numbers just don’t work for that in many areas of the US. I personally have no desire to own a chi, a lab mix or any of the bully breeds/mixes. Those are what fill most of the rescues and shelters here. They are not the right dog for many people. But at the same time I’m pretty selective about the dogs I want. I want to do dog sports and want a specific temperament. Because of my dog sports I also want ofa results on the parents. Prior to getting so involved in dog events we would have still been great owners. Our oldest dog is 13 and we’ve had him since he was 8 weeks old. I don’t like unannounced visits by friends or family so I wouldn’t like them by strangers either  |
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Post by scorpeao on Jul 19, 2019 17:58:38 GMT
I work for a vet school. I'm in the process of adopting a kitten that was part of a study. Their questions were related to other animals I have, do I rent/own, how long I've lived in my place, if I have a regular vet, and will the cat be indoors only. I've looked at rescues, but they want too much info. I'll freaking buy an animal before I go through the hoops they want. Those are all normal questions! Yes, that's why I'm adopting a kitten from them as opposed to a rescue. The rescue I looked at wanted to inspect my house. Uhm, no thanks! |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 19, 2019 18:02:21 GMT
The shelter administrator apparently has a thing against pits so if you want to adopt one, you have to bring your dogs to the shelter to see if they get along. what are the odds that any two dogs will 'get along' like buddies at the very first meeting, anyway? Any responsible pet owner will go through an introductory process to introduce their pets to a newcomer gradually. So I don't see what this *momentary meeting in a random, strange environment* would accomplish, anyway. exactly |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2019 18:08:36 GMT
There was an urgent request for an adopter needed for a black lab/pit mix at a shelter in L.A. County. So we drive out there, several people are there to see him and we're chatting with a couple who are waiting to see the dog. The shelter administrator apparently has a thing against pits so if you want to adopt one, you have to bring your dogs to the shelter to see if they get along. I said I'm sorry, I'm an adult, had dogs all my life and the very last thing I'm doing is taking my rescue dogs back to a shelter environment (ie scary chaos) to see if they and another dog "click". Sadly, we found out that the dog was then sent to South L.A. with other pit bulls ... poor thing didn't stand a chance. And I'm forever soured on that shelter. our humane society wants the dogs to meet. I think it is good practice to do that |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2019 18:10:28 GMT
The shelter administrator apparently has a thing against pits so if you want to adopt one, you have to bring your dogs to the shelter to see if they get along. what are the odds that any two dogs will 'get along' like buddies at the very first meeting, anyway? Any responsible pet owner will go through an introductory process to introduce their pets to a newcomer gradually. So I don't see what this *momentary meeting in a random, strange environment* would accomplish, anyway. my dog goes to doggy daycare and gets along with almost any dog. The only time she gets her hackles up is if the other dog seems aggressive toward me or someone in my family |
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Post by baslp on Jul 19, 2019 18:38:49 GMT
I would try another rescue. I could understand if it were a dog and you lived around a place with dog fighting. We have gotten 2 of our 4 dogs from a breeder and we did not have to send pictures an$ prove our address.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 19, 2019 21:37:28 GMT
I just don't understand what sort of responsible pet owner would agree to having their pet ripped from their home for any reason. Our pets are our family, and no one is taking them. when we got my dog, I didn’t agree that they could come take him away, but I did agree that if We cant keep him for any reason We are supposed to contact them & they are ‘required’ to take him back. Not sure that would be necessary now that ‘we’ equals four adults. But I know them still & they’d love to have him. But that arrangement I can understand, they are taking responsibility for the dogs they brought into the world. That’s the way it should be. |
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Post by MichyM on Jul 19, 2019 21:45:59 GMT
Well, it looks like rescue #1 is going to turn me away. That was the one who’s questionnaire I linked. I was honest and let them know that Dot is allowed on my terrace (1.5 stories up) with supervision. She and Pandora were allowed on the deck at my old place too which was 3 stories up. Anyhow, I digress. They’ve asked for photos and clarification. I really think they’re going to say no.
Kills me because I’m like in the top 10% of wonderfully responsible, attentive, and loving pet parents.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jul 19, 2019 21:48:02 GMT
You may recall, my Pandora died almost 3 months ago. I thought Dot would prefer to be an only cat after that (the two were bonded) but she’s become more and more withdrawn. They were both feral rescues. This week I’ve been looking at breeds (mainly Ragdoll) and rescues. OMG, I am blown away by the hoops to jump through for the rescues. I’m attaching a link to one of the rescue’s questionnaires. In your experience is this now normal? It wasn’t when I adopted Dot and Pandora 6 years ago. This thing is going to take an hour to fill out. They even want pics of both the inside and outside of my condo. Oy. Thoughts? www.123formbuilder.com/form-2428654/Motley-Zoo-Adoption-QuestionnaireWhere do you live? My girlfriend has 8 kittens she wants to adopt out. She’s in WI. Seriously if you’d like one I’d bet she’d give you one of them. |
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Post by johnnysmom on Jul 19, 2019 21:53:51 GMT
Well, it looks like rescue #1 is going to turn me away. That was the one who’s questionnaire I linked. I was honest and let them know that Dot is allowed on my terrace (1.5 stories up) with supervision. She and Pandora were allowed on the deck at my old place too which was 3 stories up. Anyhow, I digress. They’ve asked for photos and clarification. I really think they’re going to say no. Kills me because I’m like in the top 10% of wonderfully responsible, attentive, and loving pet parents. What the heck? I mean even if they fell, cats land on their feet....plus they have nine lives  No, seriously, that's crazy. Like you'd allow them out there if it were dangerous. You've managed to raise a kid until adulthood, multiple cats until old age, and you've kept yourself alive for awhile, surely you have a lick of common sense here; too bad the rescues don't recognize that. |
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Post by MichyM on Jul 19, 2019 21:56:26 GMT
And this is the latest email, after I just posted, and my reply. And yes, I know I got a little snarky.  THEM: Thanks for the additional photos. So it does look like there is easy movement back and forth thru the balcony posts, so kitty can access that roof area easily, as well as the neighbors balcony. Your kitty is obviously trained very well, however, I think then the concern is falling off that edge of the roof, esp for a kitten, who doesn't have that same sense of balance or understanding of heights, and you are up a couple stories. ME: I’m sorry you find it concerning. I’m 57 years old and make adult decisions on a daily basis. I have had cats my entire life. I am a responsible, attentive, and loving pet owner. |
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Post by hop2 on Jul 19, 2019 21:58:06 GMT
Well, it looks like rescue #1 is going to turn me away. That was the one who’s questionnaire I linked. I was honest and let them know that Dot is allowed on my terrace (1.5 stories up) with supervision. She and Pandora were allowed on the deck at my old place too which was 3 stories up. Anyhow, I digress. They’ve asked for photos and clarification. I really think they’re going to say no. Kills me because I’m like in the top 10% of wonderfully responsible, attentive, and loving pet parents. Well, did they ask if you open your windows too? Because if not they missed the point completely. |
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Post by dewryce on Jul 19, 2019 22:00:33 GMT
Well, it looks like rescue #1 is going to turn me away. That was the one who’s questionnaire I linked. I was honest and let them know that Dot is allowed on my terrace (1.5 stories up) with supervision. She and Pandora were allowed on the deck at my old place too which was 3 stories up. Anyhow, I digress. They’ve asked for photos and clarification. I really think they’re going to say no. Kills me because I’m like in the top 10% of wonderfully responsible, attentive, and loving pet parents. I’m sorry, I do hope you are wrong. Do you happen to have any photos of Dot and/or Pandora laying blissfully on the terrace in the sun? My boys loved our 3rd story balcony too. |
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Post by johnnysmom on Jul 19, 2019 22:05:03 GMT
And this is the latest email, after I just posted, and my reply. And yes, I know I got a little snarky. THEM: Thanks for the additional photos. So it does look like there is easy movement back and forth thru the balcony posts, so kitty can access that roof area easily, as well as the neighbors balcony. Your kitty is obviously trained very well, however, I think then the concern is falling off that edge of the roof, esp for a kitten, who doesn't have that same sense of balance or understanding of heights, and you are up a couple stories. ME: I’m sorry you find it concerning. I’m 57 years old and make adult decisions on a daily basis. I have had cats my entire life. I am a responsible, attentive, and loving pet owner. LOVE your response  but yeah, that probably got your application quickly into the 'no f-in way' file |
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Post by MichyM on Jul 19, 2019 22:10:37 GMT
And this is the latest email, after I just posted, and my reply. And yes, I know I got a little snarky. THEM: Thanks for the additional photos. So it does look like there is easy movement back and forth thru the balcony posts, so kitty can access that roof area easily, as well as the neighbors balcony. Your kitty is obviously trained very well, however, I think then the concern is falling off that edge of the roof, esp for a kitten, who doesn't have that same sense of balance or understanding of heights, and you are up a couple stories. ME: I’m sorry you find it concerning. I’m 57 years old and make adult decisions on a daily basis. I have had cats my entire life. I am a responsible, attentive, and loving pet owner. LOVE your response but yeah, that probably got your application quickly into the 'no f-in way' file Ya think  Rescue #2 approved me right away last night, but they're a ways away so I'm going to go into Rescue #3 in person tomorrow (they only do things in person) in the morning to see if anyone there tugs at my heartstrings first. I see a couple of cuties on their Petfinder. Of course Rescue #1's kitty was the one who most spoke to me. |
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Post by MichyM on Jul 19, 2019 22:14:33 GMT
Well, it looks like rescue #1 is going to turn me away. That was the one who’s questionnaire I linked. I was honest and let them know that Dot is allowed on my terrace (1.5 stories up) with supervision. She and Pandora were allowed on the deck at my old place too which was 3 stories up. Anyhow, I digress. They’ve asked for photos and clarification. I really think they’re going to say no. Kills me because I’m like in the top 10% of wonderfully responsible, attentive, and loving pet parents. I’m sorry, I do hope you are wrong. Do you happen to have any photos of Dot and/or Pandora laying blissfully on the terrace in the sun? My boys loved our 3rd story balcony too. Yes, in their email prior to that one they asked my to describe it further and to send pics. One pic that I sent showed Dot enjoying hanging out there. |
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Post by kernriver on Jul 19, 2019 22:59:16 GMT
This is the exact reason I bought my dog from a breeder. I don’t have a fenced backyard so I was turned down. Nevermind that I am home all day and available to take the dog out a million times a day.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 19, 2019 23:15:45 GMT
And this is the latest email, after I just posted, and my reply. And yes, I know I got a little snarky. THEM: Thanks for the additional photos. So it does look like there is easy movement back and forth thru the balcony posts, so kitty can access that roof area easily, as well as the neighbors balcony. Your kitty is obviously trained very well, however, I think then the concern is falling off that edge of the roof, esp for a kitten, who doesn't have that same sense of balance or understanding of heights, and you are up a couple stories. ME: I’m sorry you find it concerning. I’m 57 years old and make adult decisions on a daily basis. I have had cats my entire life. I am a responsible, attentive, and loving pet owner. I’m glad you got snarky with them! That is ridiculous! |
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Post by Tammiem2pnc1 on Jul 19, 2019 23:16:01 GMT
This is the exact reason I bought my dog from a breeder. I don’t have a fenced backyard so I was turned down. Nevermind that I am home all day and available to take the dog out a million times a day. We looked at a Rescue for a dog and were turned down for the same reason. The problem is our townhouse association does not allow fenced in yards, so no pup for us. If we decide to get a dog some day we will either go with a breeder or I will go into the SPCA to see what they have. Oh and yes, we are home all day too. My kids go to an online charter school, so lots of walks and attention that any pup would love. |
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 19, 2019 23:18:11 GMT
LOVE your response but yeah, that probably got your application quickly into the 'no f-in way' file Ya think Rescue #2 approved me right away last night, but they're a ways away so I'm going to go into Rescue #3 in person tomorrow (they only do things in person) in the morning to see if anyone there tugs at my heartstrings first. I see a couple of cuties on their Petfinder. Of course Rescue #1's kitty was the one who most spoke to me. I found my Persian on Craigslist, he was $25 and she was rehoming him because her child wasn’t good with him. |
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