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Post by crazy4scraps on Aug 30, 2019 4:36:23 GMT
I remember being amazed when my husband went on a business trip with a male co-worker and they each got their own room. I was surprised that he said the company would never expect them to share a room. Things work differently in the business world than in education. I don't think it's the business world vs. education. I absolutely think it's a GENDER thing. My DH used to travel for his work and was just appalled at the idea of having to share a room with a co-worker. Maybe they (the people in charge) think that women are more social or chatty, or something, so we wouldn't mind- or would actually LIKE- sharing a room with a female co-worker? Introvert or not, I think sharing a room with a co-worker is expecting much too much familiarity / intimacy for a working relationship. I agree with you completely. I traveled extensively for work in the past and almost always had to share a room with typically one other person (female) but we were friends too before we worked together so it didn’t really bother either of us too much. We always had our own beds. I do think the gender factor is real, now that I think on it, and it really is wrong for employees of one gender to not be expected to share when the other is. And I think I would feel weird about it if I was expected to share with some random person I didn’t know vs. someone I knew well and who was also a personal friend. And absolutely, completely, 100% HELL TO THE NO to sharing a room with a supervisor. Nope, nope, nope.
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Post by curiouscrafter on Aug 30, 2019 4:37:10 GMT
Nope - not going. I will stay the night, in my own room, or miss the entire thing. I'm an adult, not a 10-yr old at a sleepover on the floor.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 30, 2019 5:26:54 GMT
I'm used to me and 3 random female coworkers in a 2 queen room with 1 bathroom, and we all have to be at the same meeting in the morning, for 4-5 days. No worries about management, she always had a nice suite to herself. As much as I wanted to get my own room, I would never want to be seen as someone that thinks they are too precious to be a team player, so I just toughed it out with everyone else. Good luck! If it was just me and my supervisor traveling, we did share a room occasionally, but ALWAYS got are own beds. Oh. Hell. No. I would quit my job before I’d share a bed with someone I’m not related to. And I wouldn’t be too happy about most of the relatives, either.
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Post by snyder on Aug 30, 2019 5:43:56 GMT
So the newest plan is drive up the night before and spend two nights in a hotel. No word on if we are all sharing or not. I won't. I will get my own room and put in for the expense. Probably talk to my own supervisor first (im getting ready to switch) They had this issue with the company meeting too. It was a resounding no for most when it came to sharing rooms. It's bad enough I have to be "on" for four hours driving, a tour, a cocktail hour and most of the rest of the day, but if I have to share with a supervisor and a coworker, there is no down time. As an introvert that is a bit much for me. I need space and downtime. Especially with functions like this where I don't know anyone. We will see what happens. The supervisor on the trip just asked mine if it was okay that we get paid to go to cocktail hour. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as if I would go unpaid. Nope. Horrible company policy of sharing rooms. Ugg! I don't want a stranger hear me snore or fart during the night. lol Sharing a bathroom trying to get ready for the day. No way.
I was just going to mention that if you are salaried, you're screwed because they don't have to pay those extra hours, but if you're on an hourly wage, are they prepared to pay you the OT this LONG day will rack up? They have to start paying you, not the time you leave you home, but as if you had driven into the office and so the time would begin once you left the office until you got back to office. If you really do leave from home the time can be adjusted by looking up on Google Maps or the like how long it takes you to drive to the office. Oh, you would probably deduct an hour for lunch and for a dinner break, but definitely be paid to attend cocktail hour.
I feel for you, I would not be happy.
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Post by LeaP on Aug 30, 2019 5:46:46 GMT
These people obviously have no clue about Southern California traffic... For some reason I think you’re in the San Diego area. Not sure exactly where you are headed but... it can take 2.5 hours to get from the 405/605 interchange to Santa Monica in the morning - about 35 miles. Taking the 5 into Downtown can almost be as bad. ![:yeahthat:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/yrGoHMAelQz8f2Qt0sjb.jpg) I've spent a lot of this week parked on the 405. Today the Sepulveda pass was bumper to bumper at 11:27 a.m. Rush hour no longer begins or ends. It is endless. OP insofar as hotels, I would get my own room. And I would go to a more affordable hotel nearby, being away from the group to sleep might be more peaceful.
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Aug 30, 2019 6:04:31 GMT
These people obviously have no clue about Southern California traffic... For some reason I think you’re in the San Diego area. Not sure exactly where you are headed but... it can take 2.5 hours to get from the 405/605 interchange to Santa Monica in the morning - about 35 miles. Taking the 5 into Downtown can almost be as bad. This is the exact problem in all honesty. The main office is in Chicago but many of us work from home. They have no clue how CA works. I have a vague recollection and I haven't driven in the traffic in a very long time but remember how horrible it is on a regular basis. It makes that much of an impression. I am in the San Diego area and we are going to Calabasas, which according to google takes us through all of LA. Im so dreading this trip I can't even tell you. It also happens to be my wedding anniversary and the whole 9.11 anniversary so it's a double whammy. I will be getting my own place. I don't even care at this point. I found a hotel close to what she wants at way less and I can use my free room so whew. They are paying travel time and Miles, we work on non billable but we get paid for the tour and I don't care what the answer is, I will get paid for the cocktail hour thing too. If I am required to be there, I will be paid. That simple. I am not salaried. At least they are letting me drive. initially we were all driving together till I explained I do not let people drive me due to my accident, especially someone I don't know. My car is a dodge challenger so it can fit four, but not comfortably lol. Its a good way to keep the carpooling to a minimum
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Post by cycworker on Aug 30, 2019 8:09:38 GMT
I'm shocked by the number of people saying they would be allowed to not share a room. It's not even required of me because of my disability, but otherwise, if you insist on your own room you pay half. And the only reason it's not been required of me is because so many accessible rooms with wheel in showers also only have a king bed. We draw the line at having folks share a bed.
I agree that two nights makes the most sense.
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Post by Why on Aug 30, 2019 10:01:14 GMT
That shared room thing would never work for me. I have a horrible time falling asleep and I am up and down a lot. I leave the TV on all night and I snore - loudly. That is way too much to put anyone else through. Feel free to borrow any of these reasons of why you don't share rooms ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Q_m8lDOvc_3Le3r1GKdf.jpg)
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Post by gillyp on Aug 30, 2019 10:38:01 GMT
My previous work used to insist on us attending over night functions and one year decided they would book double rooms for two’s to share. I rarely rocked the boat at work but that was an absolute no from me. I did put my foot down and told them if they were insisting I attend then I was insisting on a room to myself. I got it and the next time many others also refused to share. After that we were sent a form to fill in to say if we were ok sharing.
My work, at that point, treated us very well, paid for everything including the 4 flights it took to get to and from these meetings, all hotel bills and all meals but to expect work colleague to share rooms is unacceptable imo. I used to half jokingly say if I’m not married to you or given birth to you I’m not sharing with you.
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Post by maryannscraps on Aug 30, 2019 10:38:27 GMT
I'm a consultant, and my standard agreement if I have to travel for a customer is that they pay for the plane ticket and transfers (ubers or a car), an individual room, meals, and 8 hours per day that I'm at their office (I may work more or less, but I get paid for 8). I would never share a room with a colleague, supervisor, or someone I don't know. I asked DH, and he said the same. He sends employees on trips all the time, and they always have their own room. TheOtherMeg I totally relate to your introvert meme!
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Post by Merge on Aug 30, 2019 10:43:19 GMT
I agree that her plans don’t seem reasonable. However, I’m kind of laughing about everyone saying they would never share a room with a co-worker or you should not be expected to share - because in education teachers are routinely expected to share a room when we go to conferences. I remember being amazed when my husband went on a business trip with a male co-worker and they each got their own room. I was surprised that he said the company would never expect them to share a room. Things work differently in the business world than in education. I do not share a room with colleagues, ever. Education here is just as aware as corporations of the potential for expensive harassment claims, and no one is required to share a room.
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Post by rockymtnpea on Aug 30, 2019 13:15:32 GMT
And that was the reply I was waiting for Merge....with the climate the way it is today I CANNOT imagine employers (private or public) requiring employees to share a room. Way to much liability.
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Post by Rhondito on Aug 30, 2019 16:11:36 GMT
And that was the reply I was waiting for Merge....with the climate the way it is today I CANNOT imagine employers (private or public) requiring employees to share a room. Way to much liability. Plus - they are wanting them to share a BED! Unless she was planning on a room with a pull-out? Is that even legal?
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Post by Country Ham on Aug 30, 2019 22:00:01 GMT
I must be weird. To me the room sharing thing sounds like so much fun. You mentioned being a nurse. I am imagining the girls I worked with and we would go on that trip, cram as many of us in a room as possible, enjoy the cocktail hour (and maybe continue it in the room) and that would include the nurse managers and clinical resource nurses.
My husband used to travel for one of his secular jobs and he and a co worker always shared a room. They would get in late and get up early and figured it was a waste of money to pay for 2 rooms.
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Post by mom on Aug 30, 2019 22:05:32 GMT
Honestly? It sounds like hell to me.
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Post by cmpeter on Aug 31, 2019 0:58:51 GMT
Dh and I both travel for work a lot and have for just about our entire careers. None of the companies that I have worked for allowed employees to share rooms. My husband has worked for large companies and smaller start up companies. The large ones have never had employees share rooms. The start ups (including the one he's currently working for) have had them share rooms.
My sister works in education (college professor) and she shares rooms. I've worked with a lot of Walmart corporate employees and they share rooms.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 31, 2019 3:04:39 GMT
Good luck. I would expect traffic to take longer than 3 hours each way. Glad you are getting your own room. I know I couldn't share a room with a coworker that just wouldn't work for me at all. I'm also an introvert it would be one thing if it was someone you knew well and agreed to it but someone you don't know nope no way. I hope it's not as bad as you think it will be and get something out if it. I totally understand the feeling of wasting time on things like this.
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