anniebygaslight
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Post by anniebygaslight on Oct 7, 2019 12:15:52 GMT
An American diplomat's wife kills a teenager in the UK and then scarpers, claiming diplomatic immunity. Disgusting and cowardly. ~Shame on you Anne Sacoolas~
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Oct 7, 2019 12:20:19 GMT
I was very annoyed when I read this story over the weekend.
Be a stand-up human and face the questions and any outcome. You can't outrun your conscience.
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Oct 7, 2019 12:40:41 GMT
Well running away sure makes you seem guilty as hell. And not a stand up human being. I can't believe she was advised to do this.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 7, 2019 12:45:32 GMT
I don’t understand how any decent human being can do this. The tv interviews with the poor boy’s parents are heartbreaking.
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moodyblue
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 7, 2019 12:46:29 GMT
I just heard this story yesterday. Appalling.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Oct 7, 2019 12:47:16 GMT
I absolutely agree. She should return and face justice. I suppose I can understand diplomatic immunity in some situations, such as where justice systems are not up to reasonable standards; however, the UK system is arguably superior to that of the US, in that it doesn't allow for the death penalty.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 7, 2019 12:49:36 GMT
I agree that she should go back and face the consequences.
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 7, 2019 12:50:50 GMT
So not right, in my opinion. Especially from a country who is suppose to support following the correct course of action and taking responsibility.
How many times have we complained of people getting away with diplomatic immunity in this country for this type of incident? I don’t understand how we could support our country using it in this way?
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Post by sabrinae on Oct 7, 2019 13:17:14 GMT
She should be forced to return and face the consequences. It’s disgusting that she won’t and that the US government has facilitated her escape.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 7, 2019 13:17:38 GMT
I was so disgusted by her behavior. I agree, it's not right.
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Post by gar on Oct 7, 2019 13:24:17 GMT
She should be forced to return and face the consequences. It’s disgusting that she won’t and that the US government has facilitated her escape. PM Johnson says he will talk to Trump if the issue cannot be resolved with the American ambassador although I'm not sure that's a good thing. She must be pooing her pants - having to be forced to return and face justice won't look good in a trial.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 13:25:22 GMT
I don't like that any country can claim diplomatic immunity. You shouldn't get a free pass. It happens here with people from other countries committing heinous crimes and never being charged for them. She should return and face what she did.
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peppermintpatty
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Post by peppermintpatty on Oct 7, 2019 13:31:19 GMT
Growing up in the affluent suburbs of DC, I saw issues similar to this all the time. It was well known that if you were ever hit by a car with diplomatic plates, you were SOL. They would claim immunity and you had no recourse. It gave them a free pass to drive like complete idiots. My prom date's father was an Israeli diplomat and the stories they would tell!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 15:00:46 GMT
I don’t understand how any decent human being can do this. The tv interviews with the poor boy’s parents are heartbreaking. Wasn't it just I think it's disgusting that she has left the country and that she obviously had assistance in doing so. She should be woman enough to face the consequences of her actions and face up to her carelessness in taking the life of an innocent young lad.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 7, 2019 15:19:23 GMT
If it's any comfort to the Harry Dunn's family, the story is making national news here and Anne Sacoolas has not been able to run and hide from what she did.
I'm not sure how she can look her own children in their eyes right now. How do you raise them to "do the right thing" when you run from taking responsibility for the death of another, accident or not?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 15:45:20 GMT
If it's any comfort to the Harry Dunn's family, the story is making national news here and Anne Sacoolas has not been able to run and hide from what she did. I'm not sure how she can look her own children in their eyes right now. How do you raise them to "do the right thing" when you run from taking responsibility for the death of another, accident or not? According to reports her 12 year old son was in the car with her at the time. I wonder how she explained it all to him. She's also a liar as she informed the police at the time that she had no plans to leave the country. When they returned to interview her to tell her of the death and to take a statement from her US officials took over. They officially requested a waiver to the diplomatic immunity and it was denied and she fled the country. She couldn't have done that without official help and that just stinks.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 7, 2019 15:51:10 GMT
According to reports her 12 year old son was in the car with her at the time. I wonder how she explained it all to him. She's also a liar as she informed the police at the time that she had no plans to leave the country. When they returned to interview her to tell her of the death and to take a statement from her US officials took over. They officially requested a waiver to the diplomatic immunity and it was denied and she fled the country. She couldn't have done that without official help and that just stinks. Afluensa, we have heard that one before. Not a fit parent!
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Oct 7, 2019 15:57:24 GMT
How was her name discovered? the embassy wasn't releasing her name or anything helpful like that last time I looked. The latest update was they, the family, had only been in the country three weeks.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 7, 2019 16:02:35 GMT
How was her name discovered? the embassy wasn't releasing her name or anything helpful like that last time I looked. The latest update was they, the family, had only been in the country three weeks. I would think that the police had her name. They said nothing about it being hit and run.... It seems she did coorperate at the scene.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 7, 2019 16:04:06 GMT
I read that story and she is disgusting.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 7, 2019 16:07:22 GMT
How was her name discovered? the embassy wasn't releasing her name or anything helpful like that last time I looked. The latest update was they, the family, had only been in the country three weeks. I don't know who released it but her name and photo are all over the internet. I imagine there will be an official statement at some point, expressing her deep distress at the incident and saying she left the country on official instructions. I read that she admitted to driving on the wrong side of the road. Something many people do when in a different country and something that is faced when an accident occurs. Good grief, it's not as if we have draconian laws. We are not likely to have her stoned to death or other appalling punishment. Isn't it better to face up to it and be dealt with accordingly than carry the knowledge she effectively got away with it for the rest of her life?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 16:15:56 GMT
How was her name discovered? the embassy wasn't releasing her name or anything helpful like that last time I looked. The latest update was they, the family, had only been in the country three weeks. I don't know who released it but her name and photo are all over the internet. I imagine there will be an official statement at some point, expressing her deep distress at the incident and saying she left the country on official instructions. I read that she admitted to driving on the wrong side of the road. Something many people do when in a different country and something that is faced when an accident occurs. Good grief, it's not as if we have draconian laws. We are not likely to have her stoned to death or other appalling punishment. Isn't it better to face up to it and be dealt with accordingly than carry the knowledge she effectively got away with it for the rest of her life? There were also witnesses at the scene so she couldn't have denied it if she tried.
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wellway
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Post by wellway on Oct 7, 2019 16:18:10 GMT
Police also know from cctv that the car left the base on the wrong side of the road.
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MorningPerson
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Post by MorningPerson on Oct 7, 2019 16:18:29 GMT
She should be forced to return and face the consequences. It’s disgusting that she won’t and that the US government has facilitated her escape. PM Johnson says he will talk to Trump if the issue cannot be resolved with the American ambassador although I'm not sure that's a good thing. She must be pooing her pants - having to be forced to return and face justice won't look good in a trial. Because the whole world knows that Trump is all about doing the right thing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 7, 2019 16:25:18 GMT
And the US won’t likely grant a reversal of the diplomatic immunity.
Disgusting.
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Post by Merge on Oct 7, 2019 16:56:18 GMT
I'm so sorry. Yes, she should absolutely return and face justice.
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Post by maryland on Oct 7, 2019 18:43:14 GMT
Growing up in the affluent suburbs of DC, I saw issues similar to this all the time. It was well known that if you were ever hit by a car with diplomatic plates, you were SOL. They would claim immunity and you had no recourse. It gave them a free pass to drive like complete idiots. My prom date's father was an Israeli diplomat and the stories they would tell! I grew up in the same area, and I was going to say the same thing.
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Post by rainangel on Oct 7, 2019 20:22:45 GMT
This made the news in Norway aswell, so the story is spreading. This woman is a coward and should woman up and face the consequences.
I don't know much about diplomatic immunity, but why does it exist? Just seems like a free pass? Are there instances where diplomatic immunity makes sense?
This is just a sad case. It also reminds me of cases where crimi als flee to countries with no extradtition agreement. Another rule I don't quite understand. If a person is wanted for murder, why would any country give them a safe haven? Are we not mostly in agreement that murder is bad, and people commiting them should face consequences? I'm sure there are political reasons here I don't know about, but it's just heartbreaking for the families left behind.
I hope this young man's family will get some justice.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 7, 2019 20:43:41 GMT
This made the news in Norway aswell, so the story is spreading. This woman is a coward and should woman up and face the consequences. I don't know much about diplomatic immunity, but why does it exist? Just seems like a free pass? Are there instances where diplomatic immunity makes sense? This is just a sad case. It also reminds me of cases where crimi als flee to countries with no extradtition agreement. Another rule I don't quite understand. If a person is wanted for murder, why would any country give them a safe haven? Are we not mostly in agreement that murder is bad, and people commiting them should face consequences? I'm sure there are political reasons here I don't know about, but it's just heartbreaking for the families left behind. I hope this young man's family will get some justice. I don’t think that this is what “diplomatic immunity” is really intended.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 7, 2019 21:41:57 GMT
I don’t think that this is what “diplomatic immunity” is really intended. Of course not. But as people from the DC area have said it is common as it is in NYC. Steer clear of any vehicle with Diplomatic plates! In fact, don't get involved with any one who might claim diplomatic immunity.
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