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Post by Olan on Aug 25, 2020 13:59:58 GMT
In the last five years at least 3 black women have been killed by police in their own homes. How is this okay? I have no doubt regarding the findings of the study. Which is incredibly depressing and wrong. And, I would also add that one's interpersonal communication style also impacts how one is treated, regardless of race. If the OP speaks to people IRL as she does here, I would not be surprised if she received less-than-polite responses/treatment in return. It would be a death wish to speak with disrespect to an officer as a black woman. I would venture to guess no one does this. With that sad fact aside your perception of me is guided in large part because I am a black woman. I'm no more or no less angry or surly than any other pea here. We also know that white criminals can behave any way they'd like and still receive better treatment than black criminals. Black people have been placated for a long time with this idea that if you are respectful and not a criminal you shouldn't have any problems interacting with police but then men in stalled cars and with licenses to carry are shot with no justice you realize that isn't the truth. I think a lot of white people are like elaine and believe that the mistreatment of black people is warranted and could be prevented if black people behaved differently.
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Post by Olan on Aug 25, 2020 13:50:01 GMT
Bumping in honor of Korryn Gaines another black woman killed in her home by Baltimore police. She would have been 28 years old this week.
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Post by Olan on Aug 25, 2020 13:44:45 GMT
Of the right to vote for women (white women) being able to vote in the USA.
I want to celebrate, but can't really do what I had planned because of covid. (I was going to visit Seneca Falls.)
Help me think of something to do that I can do at home.
I'm troubled by this wording. While it's absolutely true many black women were continued to be disenfranchised in way too many states with Jim Crow laws - the 19th amendment was NOT race specific. It invalidated laws based on sex - for all - not just white women. Many, many black women voted after the passage of the 19th amendment. Unfortunately the fight to end racial discrimination laws for both men and women in some states continued for 50+ years. ETA this article does a good job of describing both myths - that all women could vote and that no black women could vote in connection with the 19th amendment: www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/08/black-women-continued-fighting-for-vote-after-19th-amendment/#close
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Post by Olan on Aug 25, 2020 13:38:07 GMT
Meanwhile innocent Black men are dying in prisons.
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Post by Olan on Aug 23, 2020 19:22:25 GMT
I’d like to see this delved into more seriously to see if there is bias and to weed it out and to see what other factors could be at work here. The media likes the Spark Notes version of things and the more sensational the better. I want to know more before we indict all white obstetricians for negligence. The doctors I’ve known want a good outcome every time. I read this in 45’s voice complete with hand gestures for some reason. 🥴
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Post by Olan on Aug 23, 2020 0:08:00 GMT
Another thought: I believe the other thing Black people need from white people is ownership. Ownership of what happened. White women were not powerless in the way peano described. Not by a long shot. This isn’t my opinion either. I feel like people will argue me down as if a historian hasn’t already uncovered the truth. And wrote about it. And do you see how the false narrative of powerlessness keeps us in the same cycle. It’s difficult to acknowledge the role white women played because IMHO (see?) that isn’t the nature of women. Most women are nurturing caretaker types which makes a white women raping enslaved African men, and allowing their husbands to rape other women hard to believe. Let’s just say they basically had no rights so we don’t deal with it. 😑 We’ve examined what racism did/does to black people but what has it done to white people to have perpetrated it. Again I just can’t fathom how another woman saw that type of thing go down and did nothing. I think we need to figure that out before we claim 2020 is the social justice hour Black people have been waiting on. 2018 peano response: I haven't watched a full video because I think watching the videos of black men being killed on dash cam or arrested for simply existing is a way of conditioning us to accept this treatment. I know people complain because it seems I am always screaming "do more" when really black Americans are actually saying do something, anything. No one has time for ineffectiveness when it's life or death. Actionable change. Also stop calling the police. How many of you will join black Americans in boycotting Starbucks? WTF?!!! That is the most ridiculous argument for not watching a video which literally shows a white man standing up for the two black men. You are not doing your mission any favors. How are we supposed to take what you say seriously when you refuse consider any possibilities beyond your own agenda. I respect reality; rhetoric not so much.
Just so I'm on the record, I have done what those two men have done a gazillion times--used the bathroom at Starbucks before ordering, waiting on the person I'm meeting before ordering, sitting at a table before ordering. The Starbucks employee who called the police was totally, utterly, completely at fault and that was inexcusable to do to patrons who were just sitting there.“I respect reality; rhetoric not so much.“ Full thread: 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/77186/passing-buckI’m committed to helping peas stand by the words they type. What was my agenda? How did my agenda and peano differ? Empathetic and compassionate responses would have cost nothing 🤷🏾♀️. I posted links from health publications and opinions written by scholars about racial violence and it’s effect on Black people. Only racial bias would describe it as rhetoric and not research.
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Post by Olan on Aug 22, 2020 22:03:59 GMT
I think my idea of the human shield isn’t far from this idea. Walk in front of me though. My body isn’t safe. We have to acknowledge that. If I had a white woman advocating for me and insisting I get the same treatment she does shit would have changed for me some time ago. Imagine what would have happened if white women spoke up during slavery and said no to at least splitting up families and raping women. Slavery still went on but those things that make my stomach turn as a woman...I really can’t see how white women allowed that to go down. I think white women are again being tasked with some hard choices and every time they decide to continue enjoying the comforts of privilege. When Tamir Rice died that should have been a call to at least take a look at how black communities were being policed. When I started the threads about police brutality everyone balked/complained ask why all I brought up were issues of race. Peas even agreed that if I was mistreated by police it would be because of something I said or did and not the propensity of police to bring harm/death to black women. That was the pea response just a few years ago. 🤷🏾♀️When Black people revolt it shouldn’t have come from left field. We are tired. Lay your body on the line for me in the same way my ancestors fed your ancestors. There is most definitely a debt here. The idea that black people pay taxes in counties where police departments have long standing histories of brutalizing communities is crazy to me. Blowing them up even! So while I’m certain I’m owed reparations I’d settle for white people dismantling racist systems without my help and a couple decades of not funding my own mistreatment. In response to your passage that I bolded for emphasis, what would have happened is that white women would have been punished in any number of “nice”, creative ways as they literally had no more legal rights than Black people at that time. They were more socially accepted, yes, obviously, but legally they were at the mercy of their husbands and fathers and dependent upon their goodwill. They were their husband's property and subject to their rules. Standing up to men at that time might have resulted in their medication into submission, threats to separate them/actually separate them from their children, physical violence, institutionalization, among others. Not exactly the breeding ground for social justice action. Never seems to be 🤷🏾♀️ Note: Revisionist history and the unwillingness to confront America’s past. Also the boldness in which the falsehoods are shared 🙄 Mothers of Mass Resistance would be an eye opening read. Elizabeth McRae is the author.
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Post by Olan on Aug 22, 2020 13:54:21 GMT
could it be that prenatal care (or lack of prenatal care) is a factor? Socioeconomic factors don’t change the maternal death rate for black women I.e. a white woman with a GED can and do have better medical outcomes over a black woman with an advanced degrees. I think avoiding medical settings from prenatal care all the way up until delivery could probably HELP black women unless they can ensure their providers are black. I wouldn’t give birth unless it was in a room full of black women. The horse before the cart stance is predictable though. Lack of prenatal care and mistrust in medical professionals are all a RESULT of decades of racism and the mistreatment of black bodies.
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Post by Olan on Aug 19, 2020 18:56:44 GMT
I wonder if there is more trust between a black parent and a black doctor and they are more likely to allow or follow the advice of that doctor? I don’t think trust and parental involvement have anything to do with the medical outcomes of black babies. The study didn’t suggest that was a factor either. I do think the lack of trust in medical professionals has adverse effects on how Black people navigate health and wellness. The lack of trust is warranted
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Post by Olan on Aug 19, 2020 16:45:52 GMT
This should disturb a lot of folks.
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Post by Olan on Aug 19, 2020 16:43:06 GMT
http://instagram.com/p/CwLPH3mMUTg Black newborn babies in the United States are more likely to survive childbirth if they are cared for by Black doctors, but three times more likely to die when looked after by White doctors, a study has found. The mortality rate of Black newborns shrunk by between 39% and 58% when Black physicians took charge of the birth, according to the research, which laid bare how shocking racial disparities in human health can affect even the first hours of a person's life. By contrast, the mortality rate for White babies was largely unaffected by the doctor's race. The findings support previous research, which has shown that, while infant mortality rates have fallen in recent decades, Black children remain significantly more likely to die early than their White counterparts. Researchers from George Mason University analyzed data capturing 1.8 million hospital births in Florida between 1992 and 2015 for the new study, which was published Monday in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, also known as PNAS. When cared for by White physicians, Black newborns were about three times more likely to die in the hospital than White newborns, the researchers found. “Strikingly, these effects appear to manifest more strongly in more complicated cases, and when hospitals deliver more Black newborns," the authors wrote. "The findings suggest that Black physicians outperform their White colleagues when caring for Black newborns." The authors did not speculate about the reasons behind the trend, but wrote: "Taken with this work, it gives warrant for hospitals and other care organizations to invest in efforts to reduce such biases and explore their connection to institutional racism." "Reducing racial disparities in newborn mortality will also require raising awareness among physicians, nurses, and hospital administrators about the prevalence of racial and ethnic disparities," the researchers added. It's already known that Black infants have 2.3 times the infant mortality rate as White infants, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Minority Health.And a report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which covered the period between 2000 to 2017 and was published in June, found that Black infants still have more than twice the risk of dying as White infants.
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Post by Olan on Aug 18, 2020 14:33:30 GMT
Still gross and very disrespectful to be discussing the deaths of Peas loved ones. I think so too especially with details that aren’t firm so the pea then has to read how their loved one DID NOT die or correct someone with details. As an FYI and so people can say they were warned....when your people come here posting an obit, I’ll offer my condolences and share what you said to me 😜😏 complete with links.
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Post by Olan on Aug 18, 2020 14:27:10 GMT
Just to be clear, if a Pea’s loved one comes online during their time of grief to let us know a Pea has died, your first reaction is going to be to go out of your way to post links to where the deceased Pea has allegedly been mean to you. Is that correct? Wow! I missed that post! You wouldn’t have. I think we all know that. I especially loved JustTricia “peasplain” of the text you’re discussing but didn’t quote in it’s entirety. I usually pea from a mobile device though I believe my signature reads “I said what I said” no? There is never a need to fish for drama (painfully obvious) and end it with “is that correct”🤣. Listen if it feels “correct” to you, you ALWAYS have my permission to run with that assumption. Never a need to triple quote me or have “dialogue”. Hope that clears everything up.
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Post by Olan on Aug 17, 2020 13:13:57 GMT
One of the first things that sucked me into 2 peas was a thread about a lady that wanted to get a dog. The details are very fuzzy but I believe a bunch of people donated money for her to go get the dog from another state (or maybe different peas were driving the dog to her?) and then somehow it all blew up and she left in a huff. Something like that. I also remember some kind of drama about a pea putting her dead dog in the trash can. That pea was a riot. I’m positive many of the peas with colorful stories are still among us I just remembered the pea whose husband was mad at his mom for circumcising him called themselves intactavist. 🤣😂Cracked me up. I once dated a guy who got circumcised as an adult but wasn’t given enough “slack” to get an erection without it being painfully uncomfortable. My Facebook sleuthing skills suggests he is married with at least one child now.
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Post by Olan on Aug 16, 2020 17:21:30 GMT
That was where the tear bears were selling I'm still not sure what a tear bear was. Mulberry paper wet and then torn in such a way to create textured fuzzy bears? Don’t ask me how much money I spent on arts and crafts I organized over and over again only to sell at a yard sale before leaving Hawaii...yes that means I shipped that shit across the ocean at some point 🤣🤣😩 Someone beat me to it and it seems I was wrong about the technique. A lesson in that 😏
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Post by Olan on Aug 16, 2020 14:13:46 GMT
95%. I am a minimalist who wears a uniform. Usually a catsuit/leotard with either a tank top or leather jacket depending on the season. I have other uniform variations but rarely wear them hence the 5%. Super freeing and easier to travel.
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Post by Olan on Aug 16, 2020 14:02:39 GMT
Still gross and very disrespectful to be discussing the deaths of Peas loved ones. I think so too especially with details that aren’t firm so the pea then has to read how their loved one DID NOT die or correct someone with details. As an FYI and so people can say they were warned....when your people come here posting an obit, I’ll offer my condolences and share what you said to me 😜😏 complete with links.
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Post by Olan on Aug 12, 2020 15:57:26 GMT
If she wasn’t “nice” by pea popularity standards no one would have donated.
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Post by Olan on Aug 9, 2020 18:00:39 GMT
So it’s a political failing, not a judicial one? I think it intersects. Crazy thing is most prison systems and hell even PD’s couldn’t begin to function without the work of Black people.
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Post by Olan on Aug 9, 2020 1:26:25 GMT
I just read an article that said some routes go through reservations and they are turning folks away. Supposedly at several checkpoints. I’m sure their ancestors are like atta boy...last time it wiped us out 🤷🏾♀️
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Post by Olan on Aug 7, 2020 23:42:26 GMT
I can’t imagine being angry enough at someone that I physically harm them and I’ve been seething with anger every damn day since early March. Daniel Tiger mantra for the win💪🏿
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Post by Olan on Aug 7, 2020 18:06:32 GMT
God is probably sick of this shit 🤣
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