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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 18:47:40 GMT
I continued on your good work, just because I recognized one name, and wanted to confirm they go from bad to worse. Indeed they do. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche Recently published an alarming manifesto. In it, Dr. Bossche makes a number of incorrect or exaggerated claims about the use of mass vaccination during a pandemic and urges international health authorities to stop the current crop of COVID-19 vaccines or else risk unleashing “a global catastrophe without equal.” This is scary stuff, but it’s all quite misguided. This was the name I recognized. www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bosscheDr. Robert Malone Both of the last two have made appearances on Joe Rogan’s podcast - I guess you can see where this is going, right? 😏 Robert Wallace Malone is an American physician and biochemist. His early work focused on mRNA technology, pharmaceuticals, and drug repurposing research. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Malone has promoted misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines. www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/24/robert-malone-vaccine-misinformation-rogan-mandates/www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/www.factcheck.org/2022/02/scicheck-scientist-misleads-on-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-and-vaccine-safety-for-children/Dr. Peter McCullough Peter Andrew McCullough is an American cardiologist. He was vice chief of internal medicine at Baylor University Medical Center and a professor at Texas A&M University. During the COVID-19 pandemic, McCullough has promoted misinformation about COVID-19, the COVID-19 vaccine, and COVID-19 treatments. Gosh! There’s a recurring theme here.🤔 factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9QW7UP-1healthfeedback.org/claimreview/joe-rogan-interview-with-peter-mccullough-contains-multiple-false-and-unsubstantiated-claims-about-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-vaccines/I'm going to make one last post about this to clarify. What I meant when I posted those names, was that it might expand your intellectual horizons to search out some podcasts and actually listen to these doctors speak for an hour or two. Let them explain to you why they're saying what they're saying. Decide for yourself what you think of what they're saying. But of course, what you're doing, and what I should have realized that you would do if I had "read the room" better, is to do a quick Google search and allow yourselves to be told by others (media, gov't) who these people are and whether what they're saying is valid. If this is the extent of the effort that you're willing to go to then I have no more to offer here. Quoting agencies whose best interest is in keeping you from learning about views that differ from theirs is pointless. Learning involves having an open mind. And it takes time. It takes hours a day of listening to people whose views differ and sorting out which make sense. Not everyone has the time, patience or mindset for that and I understand that. Oh Jesus Christ…are you for real??? |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 13:42:36 GMT
😂 So you concede that nobody was trampled then? I seem to remember things being said about civil rights protestors being in the street and what some people would do if protestors got in the way of their cars. These were horses walking through the crowd to separate them. People had all been told to leave, so maybe they shouldn’t have been in the street? I don’t know what incident or “investigation” your referring to. I’m not going to indulge your RWNJ red herrings. Do try to stay on topic. I never said anyone was trampled. If protesters and a car are on topic, then so is a horse incident at the border. Unless you're invoking the double standard again? Biden Administration Will Investigate Border Patrol's Use Of Horse Reins Against Haitian MigrantsGaslighting and goalpost moving on this thread now I see. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 13:39:38 GMT
. I am fully vaccinated but believe mandates are government overreach. I am so f#($*(ING sick and tired of hearing the "I'm for vaccines but against mandates" when you keep forgetting to add the last part "I'm against mandates IN A PANDEMIC!!!!!" Tell me, how do you feel about the MANDATE that people wear clothes in public?!?!? Why should we have to?!?!? OUR BODIES - right?!!!? I know right? Why on earth is it okay for those who are against mandates/vaccines whatever, during a pandemic—to go out and overwhelm society with sickness? |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 13:36:53 GMT
Exactly. Here, lemme drop this stink bomb. Oh and by the way, I’m “above it all and won’t comment further” 😆 pffft. Who are you trying to convince? Indeed. Why would we bother answering your question if you can't be bothered to participate? She just needs “clout” to report back to their other conservative bailer group! 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 13:34:25 GMT
But thanks so much for calling me biased. Always nice to have actual discussions with people. I didn't call you biased. I said your source of information was biased. Is s/he talking to anyone in the trucking community, public health officials, politicians? Watching hour after hour of "life on the ground" tells you very little. Certainly not what their life is normally and how they ended up in Ottawa. Snowflake crying victim right here. Then they “back away” after ousting something that wasn’t said, wasn’t true or accurate, with their panties in a wad. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 13:31:47 GMT
You come in and insult everyone. Then you end with "im not gonna comment". So what is the purpose than? If you're so tired of how we're all below you, and we aren't good enough to have a conversation with, why? Amen! Conservatives are excellent at playing victim. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 12:30:28 GMT
I've only read bits and pieces of both of these protest threads. One thing I did notice is that there seems to be some confusion just why people are protesting and just what rights they have to do so. Let's go back to the fall of 2016, when an old recording was released just before the presidential election of Donald Trump making a disgusting remark. Women didn't like it. OK. Many women dressed in cute little pink hats, made signs, stomped about out in the streets making as much noise as they could because they didn't like it. OK. They had the right to make their opinions heard. No one created a national emergency mandate that allowed law enforcement in riot gear to push them around while on horseback. No officers advanced on completely peaceful crowds and grabbed up anyone who stumbled and fell behind their line. No one was treated very roughly despite obvious infirmities. (There are many more videos than I linked to that show excessive manhandling in Canada.) During Pussygate women and men were free to complain just as much as they wanted to. They were also free to harass anyone who walked by them who simply looked like they may have been a Trump supporter, and they left a great deal of litter behind in their wake. Not that their protests could change the words that one man said in an unguarded moment years before. But that's OK. They wanted to protest and that they did in freedom. This current protest is made up of mostly Canadian citizens. Front and center are big rig truck drivers, but that's not all who have been out there protesting and/or supporting the protestors. People who's lives have been sidetracked for two very long and difficult years have been in Ottawa seeking the leader of their country to listen to their grievances. No protester's bank accounts were frozen during Pussygate. Their means of earning a living weren't threatened. They got wonderful acknowledgement in the press. No national emergency was demanded by their government despite comments as inflammatory as Madonna thinking about blowing up the White House on stage before a large crowd. Since this current Canadian protest has begun, actual changes have begun to be implemented in various provinces regarding Covid restrictions and vaccine passports. Those are real changes that most of us in the US have had the benefit of for months to the better part of two years. How selfish to demand to be allowed the freedom to stomp our feet, yell and scream in the public square while wearing cute pink hats over a long-ago comment that we didn't like and didn't directly affect us and then dismiss in the most diminishing ways we can think of the hardships families face under ever more stringent government mandates. You want to hear disgusting comments made by a sitting leader of a country about his own people? You might try listening to Trudeau. Anyone who disagrees with him over his mandates is unapologetically slurred. All those "white supremacists" that have been protesting come from every racial background with skin all the shades humans come in. They are of every religion and they came from all over the world to live in a peaceful country that they thought ensured them particular freedoms. The PEACEFUL protest in Ottawa is one group. They made a conscious decision to embrace their fellow Canadians in peace, joy and love. They sang their national anthem and flew their national flags on the ends of their hockey sticks. They filled the food banks in Ottawa to such a degree that they had to expand outward to fill even more. They stood guard over the monument dedicated to the fallen in past wars and kept it shoveled free of snow. And they continued to seek an audience with the leader of their country so that their grievances could be heard. (I'm using past tense because this was the behavior that Trudeau considered necessitated an Emergency Mandate.) I was watching a crowd live as first they sang the national anthem and then began calling to the police, "We love you. We love you. We love you..." when BANG! BANG! Two loud flashbangs were exploded just a couple of feet at most in front of them. Because there's nothing more dangerous than a bunch of Canadians saying "We love you" while waving the flag and singing their national anthem, apparently. There are bad apples in every bunch. You pick those out and take care of them. You don't call every other apple rotten. But with people, that's different. You find a few miserable people, spread their photos and comments around the Internet - never mind if your stories have mistakes - and then proceed to slur every other person who you in some way perceive may not fully agree with you as every miserable name you can come up with. Just wait. Those truckers and nurses and doctors that you hailed as heroes one day and than despised the next may be you before long. What will people say about you? Do you want people to treat you the way that you have treated them? Just as conservatives attacked liberals for protests in America… You realize American LEO and Canadian LEO operate differently right? Not the same government. And where were you condemning the LEO who were shooting rubber bullets and tear gas into the faces of human beings in protests here, which resulted in at least one death? Where were you when cindoshas said she’d move protestors blocking her way with her car??? Conservatives have proven themselves hypocrites over and over and over. Your little soapbox speech of treating people… Where the hell are you when republicans in office have been tearing down groups of people??? LBGTQIA, POC, immigrants, women?  Where are you when republicans are creating laws to suppress voting, take away women’s rights, box teachers in corners, or creating laws to make it a crime to speak about the actual and factual history of the YSA, because you snowflakes make it all about you and how you feel—fuck the rest of society. You’re strangely (not really) silent. Not a peep. You conservatives coming here handslapping peas who are calling you all out for misinformation, disinformation, hypocrisy, and the both side bullcrap is highly entertaining—and sad at the same time. Your constant victim mentality is old. You’re not fucking victims of anything—it’s YOUR party driving the bus on this crap. Full stop. You continue with the stale diatribe “we have different viewpoints” as a reason that you’re not listened to—we have different viewpoints too—based on fact—and you dismiss those. You don’t embrace our viewpoints when we back them up with fact—why is that? You all don’t give a flying crap about anyone but yourself and your “viewpoints” and continue to support politicians who are self serving, do not have Americans best interests at front and center and who are gleefully tearing town huge groups of people as unworthy, unwanted, and it’s getting worse not better. YOUR party is doing that. And you wonder why people refuse to listen to you. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 5:33:03 GMT
Yes, all true. What I find puzzling is that our Prime Minister invoked this act without so much as talking to the protesters. He refused. Anyway, it will be voted upon by the MP's tomorrow and it will be interesting to see the result. The protestors accused him of treason. And threatened his safety - he and his family had to move to a safe location. And you think he should have negotiated with them? And negotiated what exactly? We've already covered that Trudeau doesn't have the authority to change provincial covid restrictions. And truckers have to be vaccinated to enter the US. Do you expect Trudeau to fix that? www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60190452Yep. Conservatives believe that only they know what’s right or best, and that everyone must bend to their will. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 2:45:01 GMT
You just proved what merge said you do. Merge was right. You attempt to backtrack your bullshit. She was wrong and so are you. Nope. Not wrong at all. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 1:13:09 GMT
Can you show us where the lefties hurt you? When did you show "undeniable" proof? Usually when questioned, you back off and say, I never said it was fact, just my opinion. A half-baked opinion from you or your favorite infotainer is not "undeniable proof." A video or article that doesn't actually show what is being claimed is not "undeniable proof." An article based on wild assertions with no evidence to back them up is not "undeniable proof." You absolutely just proved my point. I never said “me”. I meant it as a generalized statement. But there you go with the degrading. You just proved what merge said you do. Merge was right. You attempt to backtrack your bullshit. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 0:47:57 GMT
I had to look up who Nicholas Sandman was. And the I saw that famous picture that spread across social media. They say a single picture is worth a thousand words. And in this case it was. It showed a kid with a smirk on his face standing almost toe to toe with and elderly Native American beating a drum while his buddies were in the background laughing. What that picture showed me was a racist punk being deliberately disrespectful to another individual. And his buddies in the background laughing knew exactly what he was doing. IMO the news agencies should not have settled. But what they had to prove was a sixteen year old kid who goes a Catholic School was indeed a racist punk so it was a business decision on their part to settle. But that doesn’t change the fact that picture defined his character and that he is indeed a racist. Who got away with something. That's an opinion, not a fact. You base your opinion on a picture that you created the meaning of IN YOUR HEAD. You can have your own opinion, you can't have your own facts. Hmmm, where have I heard that before. The fact is the Native American, Nathan Phillips, committed stolen valor AND he has done this very thing before. To a group of college kids who were in their own backyard and the police discredited his claim then too. My opinion is, based on his need for the spotlight (shown by his stolen valor) he saw some kids in MAGA hats and viewed it as an opportunity. And the VIDEO (not a picture that you can create your own scenario from) the FULL VIDEO showed what actually happened. She gave her opinion based on a photo in the moment. She knows it’s opinion. Unlike you who does the square peg round hole bullshit. You didn’t know anything about “stolen valor” until well after the incident happened. Funny how you get your panties in a wad over things EXCEPT the destruction that republicans are doing to America. And MAGA hats have become a universal symbol for hatred, white supremacy, division, unpatriotic behavior, and fealty and loyalty to ONE FUCKED UP MAN, and not a country, not the constitution, not anything that is sane or reasonable. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 21, 2022 0:42:51 GMT
Regrettably, the people who need to see this the most don't care. They will stick to Fox and social media because of confirmation bias, stubbornness, loyalty to a party or some other reason. www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart That’s what amazes me about this site. No matter what someone’s point of view is, no matter what their beliefs are no matter what proof they have to back their story/post, if someone doesn’t like what they have to say, even if the proof is undeniable, that person will be shit on, swore at and degraded. There really is no room for neutral here. Why can’t people be entitled to their own beliefs and/or opinions without being told that their opinion/beliefs don’t matter??? Why is that? Because you lie. And, sweetie you’ve been fucking nasty to people too, so get iff your high horse. Conservatives play victim so well. 🙄🙄 |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:46:30 GMT
Welp, I like as much accuracy as I can get. Apparently you've decided to like propaganda that supports your biases. An interesting choice, and part of the reason we're all in this mess. That would be the left’s fault we are in this. Bwaashahahaaaaa. More bullshit out of cindoshas mouth. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:45:10 GMT
So, bullshit as usual. Thanks for acknowledging it. If that’s what you want to believe, I’m not going to change your mind because your beliefs are different than mine. See how that works? Your “beliefs” are just not facts sweetie. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:44:19 GMT
No, "we" don't have to decide. It's not difficult to compare an organization's reporting to things that actually happened. For example, my sources correctly reported that there is no credible evidence of voter fraud that would have come anywhere close to reversing the outcome of the 2020 election. This is borne out by court records. Your sources reported batshit crazy stuff about voting machines and fake ballots, presented zero evidence to back up their claims, and are now enjoying being served with lawsuits by the makers of the Dominion machines. "We" don't have to decide anything. It's right there in front of your face. I go to news sources I like, you go to news sources you like. You decide your reliability and I’ll decide mine. You go to sources who lie. We use sources who will actually post facts. It’s sad that you cannot tell the difference. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:43:13 GMT
As evidenced by your non-factual posting the majority of the time. You post the most inaccurate, biased lies all the time, and you present it as fact. When reality it’s that “echo chamber “ you and Gia/pixiechik are so fond of… Is that answer because you don’t have a good argument? It’s fact sweetie. Something you seem to know nothing about. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:42:28 GMT
Like merge said above…it’s clear who you listen to and get your so called news. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:41:47 GMT
I'll take your laughter as evidence that you have no argument against this. Thanks for conceding the point. Nope I’m laughing at your attempt to try and make me think that the news sources that had to pay would have any integrity about keeping it quiet. I laugh again. But the fact is (oh believe me, I know you don’t care about facts) that they haven’t released it. See how that works? |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:40:18 GMT
I have never claimed that any source is 100% reliable. What I object to is your characterization that none are ever reliable, and we should just choose what to believe. Some sources are much more reliable than others without meeting the 100% standard. I'm going for the highest degree of reliability available. See how that works? We all have to decide what the highest degree of reliability is. And I have decided that your sources most certainly are not. You live in a fantasy world if lies and misinformation. Peas here just keep calling you out in your bullshit and lying. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:39:15 GMT
You must have a really good inside source, since the terms of the settlements were not made public. And obviously in the history of litigation, no entity has ever settled with a complainant just because it's cheaper than going to court. It's always because they're totes guilty. No one has ever filed a lawsuit hoping for just such an outcome. If it was a small amount, the news sources would have been bragging about it. It’s not a stretch to assume he got millions. As he should have. The point us, it wasn’t made public, so you and your ilk making statements about it is just lying. You lie. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:38:25 GMT
I'll remind you that, no matter how you twist it, being able to understand why someone does something is not the same as excusing it. There's that pesky double standard again. I'll remind you that has been the standard by you and your buddies for at least more than a decade, so you can't NOW deny that it isn't the same as excusing it. Because after years of saying it IS the same, your quoted statement above doesn't hold a single drop of water. Every single correction of disinformation, was dismissed because it literally "meant you were excusing" whatever the issue was. So either that applies across the board, or it doesn't apply at all. Liar. Liar. Liar. You can lie everyday Gia/pixiechik but it still doesn’t make it true. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:35:51 GMT
The right to protest does not equal the right to shut down all movement in a major city for weeks, nor to deny its citizens the quiet enjoyment of their own private homes with excessive noise and diesel fumes. Violence doesn’t have to equal looting and shooting. It can look like a long-term occupation in the streets of a major city. Perhaps some of the protestors are not white nationalists, but they are happily taking funding and support from those who are. Perhaps some have legitimate reasons to remain unvaccinated, but they are taking money and support from people who have promoted conspiracy theories and outright falsehoods about vaccines, to the detriment (and sometimes death) of millions. If they want to convince people their cause is just, taking money from charlatans, grifters, and criminals is not the way to do it. Their funding is dirty and they are all tainted by it, as well as by their own actions. Oh and as to their feeding anyone who comes by - you know who else feeds people and provides aid to those who need it? Hamas. Well-recognized terrorist organization in the Middle East. So that argument doesn’t really hold up. Your truckers there are being funded by white nationalists and wannabe terrorists, are keeping the peaceful citizens of Ottawa from their daily business and a presumably a decent night’s sleep, and are using some of the money to feed deluded looky-loos who walk by. Yay. Very impressive. David Dorn shot to death for defending his friend's pawn shop. Another pawn shop burned down with Oscar Stewart a father of 5, inside. A father of 5, dead. A federal courthouse burned, a police station run out of a community that needed it. A building with people locked inside and set on fire. People hunted down and shot. People having their skulls bashed in for helping someone avoid being beaten. Hundreds of police attacked with rocks and bricks and molotov cocktails, hundreds injured. Looting, trashing, burning and destroy all the businesses, many of them black owned. Billions in damages across the country. You're one that EXCUSED, deflected and dismissed the violence, death and destruction of 2020 when you agreed with the protest. Nope. Those on the left did not condone tgat at all. Stop lying. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:34:18 GMT
I didn’t say that. But when it comes to accuracy, yes, mainstream hard news reporting (not opinion pieces/vlogs) are more accurate than your propaganda sites.Thanks for the sympathy. The last five years have been tough with people on your side spouting lies and nonsense. Which sites do you purport to know that I read, watch or listen to?
The last five years have been tough with people on your side spouting lies and nonsense. I keep forgetting that “your side” is the side of truth and unbiased reporting. Not to mention, justice and acceptance of any view that is different than “yours”. Oh sweetheart, we can certainly tell what you’re watching given on what you’ve posted. And absolutely 100% yes—in comparison to your party, we ARE the party of Justice and acceptance. And absolutely yes—in comparison to right wing “”news” outlets, the more left leaning outlets, while not perfect are much more reliable and honest. You’re a member of a party that does hatred for anyone not white, Christian, or kissing the ass if Republican politicians. There’s a lot more of us than of your ilk. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:29:43 GMT
I’m confused. Is this accurate reporting to you because it’s from a mainstream media source, because it relies on a Twitter feed for its information, or because it’s an opinion piece rather than a hard news piece? It's a video that you can watch. That is all. If you don't believe what you're seeing, that is fine. So my hubby and I watched several views of this incident. a part of his profession he is trained to listen and watch—people remember what they hear much better than what they see. He says— 1. You see mounted horses put into place to disperse the crowd. 2. You see many people, ignoring the directive of the mounted law enforcement (clear the area/get out of the way—and this is a gentler method of crowd dispersement than say tear gas and rubber bullets) some protester’s are jostled, some seem to be pushed. 3. You HEAR a person, one of the protestors presumably—given his perspective and words—saying things that the viewers eyes are not seeing. No where in that video do we see a woman in a walker being trampled by horses. (I’m not saying that somewhere a lady wasn’t trampled but it’s just not seen in the video). This so called “reporting” people on the ground video, is NOT all unbiased as you seem to present here. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 23:17:19 GMT
I’m confused. Is this accurate reporting to you because it’s from a mainstream media source, because it relies on a Twitter feed for its information, or because it’s an opinion piece rather than a hard news piece?Is it INACCURATE to you because it’s from a main stream media source, because it relies on a Twitter feed for its information, or because it’s an opinion piece rather than a hard news piece? It’s all garbage reporting. It simply depends on what you read, what you believe, and who you believe. Nothing more nothing less. As evidenced by your non-factual posting the majority of the time. You post the most inaccurate, biased lies all the time, and you present it as fact. When reality it’s that “echo chamber “ you and Gia/pixiechik are so fond of… |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 21:55:01 GMT
That's a pretty broad statement now...and are you suggesting that random people on SM don't have bias, specific angles, agendas etc? I could spend all afternoon pointing out inaccuracies in reporting. What I'm suggesting is that watching live feeds of ongoing events (from a broad spectrum of people if you want to see all "angles") is better than being fed small tidbits with "spin". These days every second person has their camera out filming things - there are many sources to choose from. Many sources with absolute bias. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 16:29:51 GMT
I haven’t even opened the trucker thread. Is it a requirement that I read all 800 (or whatever) pages of that thread in order to see the answer to a question asked in this one? Where ARE all the peas who were so mad about the destruction of property at the George Floyd demonstrations? They're all probably still waiting for any of you to give a shit when the same damn thing was happening back in 2020 when riots broke out during protests that you agreed with. Burning buildings with people in them was dismissed back then and anyone that brought it up was demeaned and silenced. NOW you expect anyone to come and discuss this with you? Wow And btw OP, my answer to the question in the title of this thread is, they’re mostly gone. We scared them off by asking too many hard questions. No, the ACTUAL issue is that you don't accept opinions or even verifiable facts that go against the group think, so they damn near ALL gave up. And "you" do SO MANY things like bring the subject of the 2020 riots to a trucker thread in the form of a question and when people answer, you work in tag team style to smack down the answer with such things as 'don't talk about the 2020 riots on the trucker thread'. Yeah, we "bully" them by making them substantiate their bs claims. You bully them by never accepting ANY substantiated facts or opinions and shame them for trying to be involved in the discussion. You bully them by calling them names, dehumanize them in so many ways, and shame them for not going along with THE ONE ACCEPETED narrative of the moment. Lying again. Just not true Gia/pixiechik no matter how many times you say it. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 16:21:58 GMT
Don't start quoting numbers unless you've done a reputable survey of the protestors.
If we're going to pull numbers out of our asses/our visits to the scene, then I can just say "57.35% of the protestors agree w/white nationalism, Christian Nationalism, and/or the patriarchy."
I was expressing my opinion, not quoting a poll. Yet you used 99.99% as a basis, implying that your info was factual. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2022 16:21:54 GMT
Don't start quoting numbers unless you've done a reputable survey of the protestors.
If we're going to pull numbers out of our asses/our visits to the scene, then I can just say "57.35% of the protestors agree w/white nationalism, Christian Nationalism, and/or the patriarchy."
I was expressing my opinion, not quoting a poll. Yet you used 99.99% as a basis, implying that your info was factual. |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 19, 2022 23:00:36 GMT
Just because someone doesn’t like you and verbalizes it or disagrees with you and tells you why does not mean that you are being dehumanized. It's almost like some people don't realize that words mean things. They just throw them around willy-nilly to see what gets a rise out of people. I'll pay money to anyone who finds a post of mine that "dehumanizes" people. I won't even click the 'thumbs up' button on a post where someone calls someone else (usually not a pea but someone in the world like Weinstein or Cosby, etc) a POS or "trash". Even if I don't like the actions of the person being labelled that way. But the complainers are also the genius thinkers who don't understand that difference between saying "That's an idiotic thought." vs. "You're an idiot." The first statement is labeling A THOUGHT. Some thoughts are idiotic. They just are. They can be demonstrated to be so by looking at evidence, data, reality. The second statement is labeling the entire person. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. But too many here don't get the difference between calling out thoughts/beliefs vs. true ad-hominems. They lump them all into the same category and rant about how they're persecuted. No, your IDEAS are being persecuted. You are still a human w/inherent worth and dignity and rights. Psssst…. (It’s because they thrive in the role of victim) |
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