samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 18, 2020 6:05:12 GMT
We are starting science fair projects and if anyone would like to share their experiences (likes/dislikes) that might be a fun topic (or not)..... Many friends have grimaced their disdain for this event. I think my DD's project has been a success. We are determining whether natural (beeswax, coconut oil, aloe vera) vs. manufactured products (glycerin, mineral oil, vasoline) make the best moisturizer.... So far, tied, in both categories. We plan to make the best moisturizer in the end.....
ETA: We put jello in Petri dishes to mimic collagen and then put the products on top and then weigh the plate over time, so in essence measuring evaporation. My dd makes different lip balm recipes so this was a great project for her. Our school does not participate in the district fairs, so pretty low key. I will definitely have to help with the graph. We did it in triplicate, so I can do some statistical analysis...lol
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 18, 2020 11:44:55 GMT
That’s a great project!
Only DS ever did an official project, and that was in 5th grade. Other than the write up, we loved the project. DS designed and built a catapult. I can’t remember what he was testing, but he still has the catapult. IMO, the write up was way beyond a 5th grader’s level and DS needed a lot of help. DS was/is really smart, but there were so many sections and details and he had never done anything like it. None of it was done in class other than the graphs, which I didn’t agree with either.
It’s was funny—at the science fair, parents were saying that there was no way the kids did the graphs, that the parents did them. I told the dad the graphs were all the kids DID do. That they learned how to make graphs in computer lab. But it was very obvious whose kids had help and I felt bad for the kids whose obviously didn’t have help. And I was frustrated that so much had been asked from us as parents, and that the projects were due the day after the kids got back from spring break. The next year, the project was done all in class and the write ups were much simpler. I thought the new way was more age appropriate. But I was still glad we moved from that school before DD was in 5th grade!
I will say that DS places second and it was due to a spelling error (that DS switched because he didn’t believe me when I told him he used witch instead of which!). But the county level was really boring and involved a lot of standing around waiting for the judge to come by so you could defend the project. I was happy that DS places second!
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AnotherPea
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 18, 2020 13:30:37 GMT
My kids did projects starting in first grade all the way through eighth. I’ve judged for many years.
My advice is to see how serious it is taken at your school before you get too involved. What are the criteria? Actual experiments or are models ok?
For yours, how do you measure “better?”
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Dalai Mama
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jan 18, 2020 13:37:23 GMT
I love them but, other than buying supplies, I don't get involved.
I think my DS built a trebuchet for his last (grade 11) science fair project. That was pretty awesome.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 18, 2020 13:59:52 GMT
We're huge fans and were actually sad that our kids' high school doesn't participate. Mine did them every year from K through 8th and qualified for state and some national competitions as well. Make sure the kid actually wants to do the project. I think too many times the parent finds something they think their kid will like and it all goes downhill when they're not actually interested in the project.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 18, 2020 14:08:33 GMT
I celebrated the last science fair project we had to do. I HATED them with a passion
Ds's last project was what kind of packing protected the egg the most and then we dropped it off the roof
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 18, 2020 14:17:34 GMT
My kids' school does them every year, K-8th.
It's pretty much a contest to see whose parent builds the best project. Each year is themed, like kindergartners had to build a boat that would actually float.
My ds's kindy teacher actually thanked me for letting him participate in his boat project.I
The base was made of pool noodle, cut into slices, because I asked him to think of things that float, and we progressed from there.
Other projects included a model boat built from a kit, that included a moving motor. Yes, I'm sure the kindy kid built that.
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Post by auntkelly on Jan 18, 2020 14:26:09 GMT
Neither my husband nor I enjoyed the science fair projects. Neither one of us really has a scientific brain, so we could only offer minimal help to our kids. Having to figure it out on their own might have really helped them. My son’s undergrad degree is in chemical engineering and my daughter has a master’s degree in data science. Maybe they were thinking they wanted to major in something that would help them help their kids w/ 5th grade science projects since their own parents were so worthless!
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 18, 2020 14:36:04 GMT
We disqualified projects from competition if they appeared to have had parent participation beyond purchasing of supplies. 1-2 grade was completed at school with teacher help. 3rd and up was to be student only.
Parents actually signed off on the rubrics and instructions before starting. Most of the design was completed in class, sent home for parental approval and comments/suggestions.
If teachers felt judges might not have a complete picture, they had a place to leave their comments.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 18, 2020 14:45:22 GMT
We are starting science fair projects and if anyone would like to share their experiences (likes/dislikes) that might be a fun topic (or not)..... Many friends have grimaced their disdain for this event. I think my DD's project has been a success. We are determining whether natural (beeswax, coconut oil, aloe vera) vs. manufactured products (glycerin, mineral oil, vasoline) make the best moisturizer.... So far, tied, in both categories. We plan to make the best moisturizer in the end..... how are you measuring "best"?
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Post by anxiousmom on Jan 18, 2020 16:33:09 GMT
Not just science projects-but those dang dioramas for the book season. OMG. I was the mom that insisted that they do them on their own. I, the art girl, had two boys that have zero creative genes, so it was hard to watch and not make suggestions-but one time there was one made that literally was a shoe box, one small piece of moss glued to the back, a rock and a matchbox dumpster with globs of glue everywhere. (They read Hoot) Kid got an A, because it was obvious that mom didn't have a single thing to do with it.
#thepartofparentingIdon'tmiss
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 18, 2020 17:41:35 GMT
We are starting science fair projects and if anyone would like to share their experiences (likes/dislikes) that might be a fun topic (or not)..... Many friends have grimaced their disdain for this event. I think my DD's project has been a success. We are determining whether natural (beeswax, coconut oil, aloe vera) vs. manufactured products (glycerin, mineral oil, vasoline) make the best moisturizer.... So far, tied, in both categories. We plan to make the best moisturizer in the end..... how are you measuring "best"? We put jello in Petri dishes to mimic collagen and then put the products on top and then weigh the plate over time, so in essence measuring evaporation. My dd makes different lip balm recipes so this was a great project for her. Our school does not participate in the district, so pretty low key. I will definitely have to help with the graph. We did it in triplicate, so I can do some statistical analysis...lol
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 18, 2020 17:51:22 GMT
I grade science fair projects for 28 years. I think I have seen my fair share of them. Make sure you read the packet carefully. Some kids have to do a project and some have to do an experiment. If it is an experiment, it will be different from just showing how something works.
My question for you would be how can you prove that something is a better moisturizer? Make sure she takes detailed notes and takes photos.
My favorite experiment was the child who went to the different fast food restaurants and swabbed 5 places in their restrooms. She grew the results in petrie dishes. Now I wait to go pee if at all possible. Second favorite experiment was which diaper could hold the most liquid. Easy to prove and cheap to do if you can get a few different brands. Can be completed in one Saturday afternoon if you are short on time.
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 18, 2020 18:13:49 GMT
I grade science fair projects for 28 years. I think I have seen my fair share of them. Make sure you read the packet carefully. Some kids have to do a project and some have to do an experiment. If it is an experiment, it will be different from just showing how something works. My question for you would be how can you prove that something is a better moisturizer? Make sure she takes detailed notes and takes photos. My favorite experiment was the child who went to the different fast food restaurants and swabbed 5 places in their restrooms. She grew the results in petrie dishes. Now I wait to go pee if at all possible. Second favorite experiment was which diaper could hold the most liquid. Easy to prove and cheap to do if you can get a few different brands. Can be completed in one Saturday afternoon if you are short on time. We put jello in Petri dishes to mimic collagen and then put the products on top and then weigh the plate over time, so in essence measuring evaporation. My dd makes different lip balm recipes so this was a great project for her. Our school does not participate in the district, so pretty low key. I will definitely have to help with the graph. We did it in triplicate, so I can do some statistical analysis...lol
My DS is going to do the petri dish test at his school with and without antibiotics, to see if some antibiotic-resistant bacteria grows (hopefully not)!
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Post by pierkiss on Jan 18, 2020 18:25:33 GMT
This one wins! Our daughter just brought home the rubric for her very first science fair. I love science, and so does my husband. And we already are ready to stab ourselves in the eyeballs with pencils. There are a lot of statistic and graphing requirements for this. That somehow all have to fit on a standard tri-fold. Along with all the other things. And they have to make a picture/video slideshow to show in class. And, apparently most important to the teacher is the requirement of an interactive component that the judges and other students can play with when they come by the project. 🙄 Our kid was given a choice between an experiment and a consumer report style project. She opted for the consumer report, and will be testing 3 brands of markers to determine which is the best in a variety of categories. I am happy she went this route. I think it’s going to bring the least amount of stress.
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Post by Country Ham on Jan 18, 2020 18:44:21 GMT
My son did a great one on molds in jr high. My daughter didn't have one in jr high. My son hasn't had one in high school and for some reason my freshman daughter does. All I know is that it has something to do with slime.
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Post by mrssmith on Jan 18, 2020 19:49:35 GMT
My kids' elementary school science fair is optional. My DD did "What Sinks, What Floats" in Kindergarten and Optical Illusions in 1st or 2nd. My son has never wanted to do them. In 5th grade, DD and her BFF really wanted to a joint one on flowers or something. It was a nightmare because the other kid had lots of extracurriculars, so they basically could never get together and did it the night before.
The funniest one I saw was where a kid tested different remedies for farting and had info on whether various "myths" were really true (he who smelt it, dealt it, etc.) It was hilarious.
I mostly hate it because it takes place in a cramped gym that is a sensory explosion. When DS was young I would have to carry him, so he didn't get trampeled.
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Post by Peal on Jan 18, 2020 20:15:19 GMT
Reading these replies I think we need to change the name from Science fair to STEM fair.
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Post by ntsf on Jan 18, 2020 22:19:48 GMT
my favorite from elementary school fairs was "who is smarter, my dog or my 3 yr old sister?" my own kids --the outstanding one in a way was the kindergartener who did not want to do the class project, but wanted to make a model of an eyeball.. she researched it, I got her a white ball and she decorated it as an eyeball.
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Post by kraft4fun on Jan 18, 2020 22:30:47 GMT
Best part of having homeschooled my girls was the fact that we didn't "have" to do Science Fair projects. We did experiments all the time when something came up they were interested in.
My oldest was home from 4th-9th, middle 2nd-9th and youngest K-7th. Never a regret in that decision at all.
All 3 are now married, have bachelor degrees in their chosen interests and loving their lives with their husbands. One is in the Coast Guard with 2 children. One has a great position with an event planning company and child 1 due any day now. And one perfectly happy in she and her husbands anime world.
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Post by crittsmom on Jan 19, 2020 6:04:43 GMT
My dd may have done the same science fair project for 3 years in a row from grade 6 to 8 because she was in a different school each time. Had it down pretty well by the last time.
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Post by ten&rose on Jan 19, 2020 21:28:42 GMT
Last year my 3rd grader worked out which microwave popcorn was the most efficient. We did 3 brands and popped 3 bags of each. She did some math to find the average. My input was buying supplies, running the microwave and painting stripes on her board as directed by her. This year she wants to do some models of constellations. We have the black board, just need the gold stars and for her to do some research.
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 19, 2020 21:55:56 GMT
As a science teacher, I HATE at home done projects! Parents end up doing most of it and the kids learn very little. I don't do science fair with my 8th graders. At my site, our 6th grade teacher does a school science fair with just her class. The experiment is done at home. The kids bring it to school on a designated day and they set up in the cafeteria. Parents or anyone who wants to check it out pay $1 to get in (fund raiser for her class). She has people (school board members, friends from other schools, people from out school) come in and ask the kids questions about their project. Those who can actually answer questions about it get the better grades. That generally means they did it themselves with adult help not that the adult did it for them. Each person is asked to score 5 projects minimum. Each kid has a stack of 5 forms at their experiment to ensure that each kid gets multiple scores. The scores are then averaged for the students grade. It's pretty cool but TONS of work!
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Post by seaexplore on Jan 19, 2020 21:56:55 GMT
My dd may have done the same science fair project for 3 years in a row from grade 6 to 8 because she was in a different school each time. Had it down pretty well by the last time. Sounds like my siblings and out mousetrap car and catapult project for physics in high school. 4 kids. Same teacher. Reused project 4 times. LOL
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