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Post by MichyM on Jan 22, 2020 20:02:31 GMT
I need to preface this with the statement that I've had chronic back issues since a car accident 31 years ago. This chair however has made the back pain much more pronounced than it's been in years.
I custom ordered a chair from a reputable retailer for my den last year. I finally realized a month or so ago that the chair has been the cause of my recent intense backaches. The back pain increased in severity over time, so I didn't make the connection for quite some time. The pain was bad enough to wake me up in the middle of the night, and impacted my day to day life to the point of avoiding some normal activities because of it. I've avoided sitting in the offending chair over the last couple of months, and when I do, I make sure it's only for short periods of time. No more crafting/watching TV/ or relaxing in it. I'd like to start using it again and not just get rid of it.
Because it's been nearly a year since it was delivered, and because I hate returning things/dealing with CS, etc I won't be contacting the retailer for an attempted fix. I also selected a fabric for it that I love and coordinated paint in the room to that fabric, so I'd like to try and make this work.
Has anyone ever added something to their lounge chair to make it more comfortable? Or maybe taken the seat and back cushions into an upholsterer to have them remake the cushions to make them more comfortable? I'm trying to figure out my options.
Thanks for any input/experience you have to offer!
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Post by littlemama on Jan 22, 2020 20:04:49 GMT
I think that your first need to identify what the issue is. For example, our couch, which we love, has cushions that are too deep - I look like a toddler sitting on it, so we have placed additional pillows behind the back pillows and that helps. Also, the cushions that we sit on the most are too squishy now (after less than 2 years) so dh has put some kind of support underneath them.
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Post by snyder on Jan 22, 2020 20:12:45 GMT
My mom has done the seat cushion thing having an upholster make better cushion several times. But, as pp said, you need to figure out what is the issue that makes the pain. Seat too long, too short, no back support etc. A lot of chairs cause issues because there is not sufficient lumbar support. Can you explain what kind of chair this is that you can use it for all those things you mentioned? I'm trying to visualize and office/desk chair, yet a big ole over stuffed chair one would curl up in.
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Post by MichyM on Jan 22, 2020 20:14:00 GMT
That's the $64,000 question. I don't know what the issue is. Because of my back issues, I nearly always use a lumbar pillow when seated. And I almost always sit in the chair with my feet up on a small ottoman/footstool.
I just looked up the chair online and there are 2 reviews, both of which talk about how comfortable the chair is. Sigh. Here's the website description of the build and cushions:
Frame is benchmade with a certified sustainable hardwood that's kiln-dried to prevent warping
Sinuous wire spring suspension system
Seat cushions have soy based polyfoam wrapped in fiber encased in downproof ticking
Back cushions have a blend of virgin and recycled fiber encased in downproof ticking
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Post by MichyM on Jan 22, 2020 20:16:48 GMT
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 22, 2020 20:23:14 GMT
It’s vey pretty! The seat looks very deep. Do your feet touch the floor when you are sitting in the chair? I’m short and find that my back hurts when I’m sitting in a chair for a long period of time and my feet don’t touch the floor.
The seat back also looks rather slanted. If I’m on a device, I like to sit up straighter.
Also, if time has caused the cushions to sag, you may be sinking into the chair far enough to make your seating angle too much for your comfort.
You could be ready for a new lumbar cushion. Or if it works in one chair, it may not work in another.
To be honest, this is why I won’t order furniture online. I need to try it out first. I’m really Goldilocks with red hair!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 20:39:34 GMT
I know I would not be comfortable in that chair. The back is too low to support my upper back. I like the looks of those chairs but sitting in one for long hurts me. The seat depth (front edge to back) it too deep so I either have to sit forward and have no back support or use an ottoman of some kind so I can sit back against the back but then that kinks up my knees, hips and puts strain on my back too. Sit down in a hard chair. Measure from you knee bend, along the thigh and butt to find out your optimal seat depth. You also need to know how high a back is best for you. Not only do you need a lumbar support but you also need some support for your upper back or you will be using your back muscles to hold yourself upright. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 22, 2020 20:45:07 GMT
Pretty fabric. I agree about the back slanting back, I also need more upright. Try a pillow/cushion behind the one there, if you can. (I say that because if you do decide to add something you could add a plain matching color behind the present back. OR try something, even a towel or blanket under the rear to center of the seat cushion. As with finding allergies, do one thing at a time, not all at once.
ETA: on a side note. Whenever you order custom fabric think about buying an extra yard or at least to cover one side of a cushion or such, unless it is extremely expensive.
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Post by mom on Jan 22, 2020 20:46:40 GMT
It’s vey pretty! The seat looks very deep. Do your feet touch the floor when you are sitting in the chair? I’m short and find that my back hurts when I’m sitting in a chair for a long period of time and my feet don’t touch the floor. The seat back also looks rather slanted. If I’m on a device, I like to sit up straighter. Also, if time has caused the cushions to sag, you may be sinking into the chair far enough to make your seating angle too much for your comfort. You could be ready for a new lumbar cushion. Or if it works in one chair, it may not work in another. To be honest, this is why I won’t order furniture online. I need to try it out first. I’m really Goldilocks with red hair!You have red hair?!? Not how I pictured you in my minds eye! You've always had blonde hair in my mind! LOL MichyM I think you will need to narrow down exactly what you think is causing you your issue. Looking at the chair (which is super cute!) I would first think about the seat being too deep. Looking at the chair measurements, it is 21in deep (which is standard). When you sit in the chair, with your back to the back cushion, are your knees bent at a 90 degree angle and your feet touching the floor? They should. If you feel like you have to have a pillow/cushion then the chair is too deep. |
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Jan 22, 2020 20:52:13 GMT
Do you have room for another chair in your space? If so, I'd put the money towards that and use this chair for guests since you based your decor on the fabric. I suspect no matter what you do to 'fix' this one, it's never really going to be a good fit. The back is too low for support, the seat is too deep. To be honest, this is why I won’t order furniture online. I need to try it out first. I’m really Goldilocks with red hair!  We bought a sectional about 3 years ago through our designer. Beautiful, but I hate that thing with a passion. The back is too low, I hate the polyfoam cushions (I typically have a down/foam blend), and the fabric was a stupid choice because it doesn't work well with pets. DH & DD love it, but the only times they are on it is lying down. It's not even comfortable to me lying down. I will never order an untested piece of furniture again. Funny thing is I love my custom ordered Quatrine chairs and sofas. The big difference is that I go into the showroom and try all the combinations before I order. |
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Post by caangel on Jan 22, 2020 21:04:22 GMT
I think it is a beautiful side chair but not one I would call a lounge chair. To me it is a chair I'd buy for looks/ occasional use. I'd need a higher back for it to be comfortable for lounging and I don't have back issues.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 22, 2020 21:12:59 GMT
It’s vey pretty! The seat looks very deep. Do your feet touch the floor when you are sitting in the chair? I’m short and find that my back hurts when I’m sitting in a chair for a long period of time and my feet don’t touch the floor. The seat back also looks rather slanted. If I’m on a device, I like to sit up straighter. Also, if time has caused the cushions to sag, you may be sinking into the chair far enough to make your seating angle too much for your comfort. You could be ready for a new lumbar cushion. Or if it works in one chair, it may not work in another. To be honest, this is why I won’t order furniture online. I need to try it out first. I’m really Goldilocks with red hair!You have red hair?!? Not how I pictured you in my minds eye! You've always had blonde hair in my mind! LOL MichyM I think you will need to narrow down exactly what you think is causing you your issue. Looking at the chair (which is super cute!) I would first think about the seat being too deep. Looking at the chair measurements, it is 21in deep (which is standard). When you sit in the chair, with your back to the back cushion, are your knees bent at a 90 degree angle and your feet touching the floor? They should. If you feel like you have to have a pillow/cushion then the chair is too deep. I have red curly hair with pale, freckled skin. Definitely not a blonde! |
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Post by malibou on Jan 22, 2020 21:18:53 GMT
You have red hair?!? Not how I pictured you in my minds eye! You've always had blonde hair in my mind! LOL MichyM I think you will need to narrow down exactly what you think is causing you your issue. Looking at the chair (which is super cute!) I would first think about the seat being too deep. Looking at the chair measurements, it is 21in deep (which is standard). When you sit in the chair, with your back to the back cushion, are your knees bent at a 90 degree angle and your feet touching the floor? They should. If you feel like you have to have a pillow/cushion then the chair is too deep. I have red curly hair with pale, freckled skin. Definitely not a blonde! Interesting, I also pictured you with blonde hair. |
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Post by malibou on Jan 22, 2020 21:22:15 GMT
When you sit in the chair, you should have an inch between the back of your knees and the edge of the cushion to achieve the correct depth. Also if the seat cushion is too soft, it will cause your body to tense up while it tries to keep you stable leading to tension in your back. Perhaps a board under the seat will give it more stability.
I hope you figure it out as it is a lovely chair.
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Post by RosieKat on Jan 22, 2020 21:25:09 GMT
I have back issues and I use a wide extra cushion at the base of my spine. For me, being tilted back (recliner) helps but everyone's back is different.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 22, 2020 21:35:19 GMT
I have red curly hair with pale, freckled skin. Definitely not a blonde! Interesting, I also pictured you with blonde hair. That is interesting! |
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Post by bbkeef on Jan 22, 2020 21:45:11 GMT
Also if the seat cushion is too soft, it will cause your body to tense up while it tries to keep you stable I agree that the cushions are probably too soft. I was in a bad car wreck 21 years ago and cannot do anything too soft or it exacerbates all my back and neck issues. I am testing a new office chair at work and lasted about 30 minutes in it before I had pain all over. I need more support and this chair had a mesh back with little support. That was yesterday and I am still feeling it today. |
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Post by mom on Jan 22, 2020 22:09:01 GMT
You have red hair?!? Not how I pictured you in my minds eye! You've always had blonde hair in my mind! LOL MichyM I think you will need to narrow down exactly what you think is causing you your issue. Looking at the chair (which is super cute!) I would first think about the seat being too deep. Looking at the chair measurements, it is 21in deep (which is standard). When you sit in the chair, with your back to the back cushion, are your knees bent at a 90 degree angle and your feet touching the floor? They should. If you feel like you have to have a pillow/cushion then the chair is too deep. I have red curly hair with pale, freckled skin. Definitely not a blonde! How fun! Never pictured that! |
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Post by mom on Jan 22, 2020 22:10:12 GMT
Interesting, I also pictured you with blonde hair. That is interesting! Im now wondering if I assumed blonde hair since you have a blonde dog in your profile? Not that you are a dog (I promise!) but since thats what I see when I see your name. |
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Post by lisae on Jan 22, 2020 22:54:49 GMT
I can have sciatica problems if I sit on a chair or sofa that is too soft. I had to replace a chair in my craft room with a firmer one because the springs just didn't give enough support. I tried a firmer cushion and it did not help but it was several years old.
Is the seat cushion firm enough would be my concern? If not, that can be corrected with a new very firm insert. You would probably have to get such a cushion from an upholsterer.
Do you use an ottoman with the chair? It doesn't seem like a lounge chair without something to support your feet and legs.
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Post by belgravia on Jan 22, 2020 23:22:39 GMT
Do you see anyone for your back pain? A chiropractor or physiotherapist might be able to tell you where you need support or how to alleviate your discomfort. Then that would give you at least a direction to go in regarding making changes to your chair.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 22, 2020 23:34:27 GMT
Im now wondering if I assumed blonde hair since you have a blonde dog in your profile? Not that you are a dog (I promise!) but since thats what I see when I see your name. It’s interesting, isn’t it? Especially since more than one person assumes I’m blonde. Although, I’ve posted several times over the years that I’m a petite redhead! |
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Post by mom on Jan 22, 2020 23:37:24 GMT
Im now wondering if I assumed blonde hair since you have a blonde dog in your profile? Not that you are a dog (I promise!) but since thats what I see when I see your name. It’s interesting, isn’t it? Especially since more than one person assumes I’m blonde. Although, I’ve posted several times over the years that I’m a petite redhead! Well, I dont keep a spreadsheet so Im just basing it on my own (obviously wrong) assumptions! |
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 23, 2020 0:11:35 GMT
I agree with the others, that you need to figure out what it is that is causing the issue.
I have upper back and neck issues.
Personally, Just from looking, I know that chair wouldn't be comfortable for me. It's too straight of an "L" and looks stiff(as opposed to softer and squishier). The seat base looks longer as well.
My legs extended on a longer depth seat base or in bed cause me back-spine-neck ache and pain. It has to do with where my knees are and under the knee support. My straight flat extended legs have "no give or support" under my knee. A shorter based chair depth rounds a bit at the edge...that changes the legs extended knee support. In bed, sitting up reading, I have to have a pillow under my knee area, for knee "give and support". Sitting in bed reading with legs extended, with no under knee support or causes me upper back and neck ache/pain. The slightest bit of support, give, elevation, angle....can make a world of difference.
The type of easy chair that works best for me, is a softer squishier seat base, with an "L" that is more scooped/angled/slanted at the lower back base. As well as a softer squisher base/top on the ottoman where I was place my extended legs.
Edited to add: When you sit in your chair with legs extended....are you a straight stiff "L" or more of a slouched angled back "L"?
When you sit legs extended....is there a gap under your knees or do your knees lay flat touching the seat cushion?
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Post by malibou on Jan 23, 2020 0:41:07 GMT
Im now wondering if I assumed blonde hair since you have a blonde dog in your profile? Not that you are a dog (I promise!) but since thats what I see when I see your name. It’s interesting, isn’t it? Especially since more than one person assumes I’m blonde. Although, I’ve posted several times over the years that I’m a petite redhead! Also not a spreadsheet keeper, and I do know you are petite. Maybe I am skewed by the dog too. |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 23, 2020 0:49:50 GMT
I almost Didn’t post about this, but now I’m definitely glad I did. Thanks everyone for your thoughts, i appreciate them. Even though I sat In the chair in the store, it’s pretty clear now that it just doesn’t fit me, and now that it was mentioned, I think both the back angle and height are an issue as well. The length of the seat isn’t so much of an issue in my opinion because my feet are usually either curled up under me or I’m using an ottoman, I’m going to talk with an upholsterer, but i have a feeling I’m going to end up replacing the chair. Expensive mistake (there’s no where else in my place it’ll work). Basket1lady nice to know that there is another freckle faced, curly redhead here  |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 23, 2020 1:32:06 GMT
Basket1lady nice to know that there is another freckle faced, curly redhead here Oh, I used to be. Gray now and not so many freckles either! |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 23, 2020 4:30:46 GMT
I wouldn’t be comfortable in that style of chair even with an ottoman, mostly because the back is too low. I have my dad’s big, squatty, squarish 1950’s era easy chair that I’ve had reupholstered several times because I love it so much, and the guy I take it to also made me a matching ottoman.
The seat is a little too deep for me to sit in comfortably on its own, so when I was pregnant I bought an 18” square throw pillow that I put upright at the back which made it a lot more comfortable to sit in and easier get up from sitting. At one point, the pillow needed washing but didn’t have a zipper and only loose poly fill stuffing inside. I washed it, then went and bought a zipper and a removable pillow form at the craft store. I opened up one of the side seams, pulled out all the stuffing and sewed the zipper in, then replaced the stuffing with the pillow form. Now I can take the cover off the pillow and wash it by itself as needed.
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Post by GamGam on Jan 23, 2020 13:24:22 GMT
I am so sorry that you are having a disappointing experience with this nice chair. I, too, have a hard time finding comfortable chairs, and have decided that I need chairs that come in “sizes”. And I’ve found one that fits me to a “T”, and is sooooo comfortable. It is not, however, an upholstered chair. It is an Ekornes Stressless Recliner. I don’t know how to post a link. I chose the medium size, and it is perfect for me. The ottoman tilts to conform to my extended legs. These chairs are designed for comfort, and they are pricey. The leather is butter soft, and they are well made. Perhaps not the “look” you are wanting, but we looked and tried many brands before choosing these, and I have never regretted our choice.
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Post by PenandInk on Jan 23, 2020 16:16:56 GMT
I am so sorry that you are having a disappointing experience with this nice chair. I, too, have a hard time finding comfortable chairs, and have decided that I need chairs that come in “sizes”. And I’ve found one that fits me to a “T”, and is sooooo comfortable. It is not, however, an upholstered chair. It is an Ekornes Stressless Recliner. I don’t know how to post a link. I chose the medium size, and it is perfect for me. The ottoman tilts to conform to my extended legs. These chairs are designed for comfort, and they are pricey. The leather is butter soft, and they are well made. Perhaps not the “look” you are wanting, but we looked and tried many brands before choosing these, and I have never regretted our choice. My mom had terrible lower back pain and chose a Stressless Chair. We went to a huge showroom and she spent a couple of hours sitting in each model to find the one that felt best to her. She loved that thing. And funny, I tried them all too, and the one she chose was NOT the one I would have chosen. So each model has its special “feel”. I would love to have a Stressless recliner now, as I have developed back pain, but our house is a weird layout and I can’t figure out where to put it. |
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