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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:14:10 GMT
Is just ignoring them the best policy? I'm starting to think so, but wondering if anyone has a successful coping strategy for dealing with someone who just disagrees, takes the opposite stance, or never passes up an opportunity to say "No, you're wrong, (insert lots of yadda yadda "fact" spouting here).
Honestly, it seems that with people like this, giving them any response is an invitation to be an argumentative ass, and that the only thing that will shut them down is not to respond to them in any form.
Opinions?
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Post by sues on Oct 20, 2014 20:18:32 GMT
I used to be like that (to a degree) when I was younger. Not 'you're wrong!' - but I always had to argue MY point. It's embarrassing to think about it now.
The older I get, the more exasperated I get with arguers, though. I mean- at a certain point, shouldn't you be older and wiser? I find myself sighing and saying "OK." Then, a subject change, or I'm urgently needed elsewhere.
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Post by zztop11 on Oct 20, 2014 20:19:47 GMT
I think ignoring them would be the best idea. No fuel for the fire.
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Post by alibama on Oct 20, 2014 20:21:13 GMT
Oh my I am sorry you have to deal with one of those too. We have one of them at work. Nobody likes him and he can't understand why? He is always right, no matter what. Even our vendors don't want to deal with him when they come in. He will also cross from one end of our shop to the other to butt his nose in.
I will give him credit for one thing though. He is good at his job he just needs to be in a room all by himself. It would be better for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 20:21:48 GMT
change the subject, walk away, get distracted, agree with them immediately, move across the country. A true arguer you will never ever win with. The more you try to explain, discuss the more wrong they'll find. If you don't get sucked in there is no argument.
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Post by alibama on Oct 20, 2014 20:22:01 GMT
oh I forgot to answer your question. I ignore him totally.
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Post by disneypal on Oct 20, 2014 20:24:04 GMT
I either try to ignore them or say "Well...we will just have to agree to disagree"
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Post by padresfan619 on Oct 20, 2014 20:26:43 GMT
My husband's best friend is like that. Those two used to live together before we got married and there were nights I would just throw my hands up and refuse to engage. Most of the time he didn't even believe/agree with his position, he was just playing devils advocate for the sake of doing it. When he felt like his position was being threatened by anyone else he would raise his voice.
I simply refused to engaged with him. Now that he has to come to my home I am much more willing to call him on his behavior. I refuse to be belittled or pestered in my house.
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Post by gar on Oct 20, 2014 22:12:47 GMT
Some people just seem to be born mis-matchers. They take the opposite stance on virtually everything, they seem driven to do it and not engaging seems to be the only option as far as I can see.
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Post by mallie on Oct 20, 2014 22:14:44 GMT
My co-irker is one of those. Unfortunately saying, "Agree to disagree" is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. It INCENSES her.
So sometimes I do that just for the fun of it. Then keep repeating it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 22:26:02 GMT
My co-irker is one of those. Unfortunately saying, "Agree to disagree" is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. It INCENSES her. So sometimes I do that just for the fun of it. Then keep repeating it. My husband does it to his brother occasionally. His brother MUST have the last word. He likes to see how long he can keep it going. Fortunately he keeps it to facebook private chat.
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Post by laureljean on Oct 20, 2014 22:36:33 GMT
DD and DH are both like that. I (and DS) walk away from them when they're in that mood. They've learned to indulge that trait with each other and leave us alone. We call it "recreational bickering".
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Post by eversograceful1 on Oct 20, 2014 23:20:23 GMT
I think you may know my husband.
I find that I pick my battles very carefully and only fight back if it really matters to me.
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Post by perumbula on Oct 20, 2014 23:28:03 GMT
My brothers. They will actually say inflammatory things on my Facebook posts just to see if they can upset me. (Like saying a teapot I posted a picture of looked like a bong. I was using it to promote a silent auction benefiting a charity I believed strongly in and hoped to bring attention to the sale with the cute teapot. Another brother said something mean and derogatory when I posted a photo of the brand new fridge I'd been wanting for five years.)
I walk away. There is nothing on this earth you can say that win them to your side even if they secretly believe what your arguing. They can't lose face. They must win. This is what they call "fun."
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Post by scrapsotime on Oct 20, 2014 23:56:29 GMT
My father in law used to be like this with me. He came over to the house and started in on me one day about something and how I was wrong. It was just me and my sister in law (his daughter) at the house. I just started saying 'I don't care' and I just kept repeating it. It got to the point I was saying I. Don't. Care. A bit drawn out and louder. He asked his daughter if she agreed with me and she said yes. He finally said I see I'm not going to win an argument in this house and left. He hasn't tried to argue with me like that since.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 0:42:56 GMT
Thanks for the commiseration, everyone. I had pretty much given up on engaging with this person anyway, but some days it drives me absolutely bonkers to watch and/or listen to this person argue with or contradict every.single.person she encounters. It's so obnoxious, and yet she just keeps it up, even when she has been told (by quite a few people, actually) that it's a problem. Then she goes into the wounded, pouty mode. gah I'm just going to have to keep doing more of these: I think I'll also start wearing my little bluetooth thing all the time, and exclaiming, "Oh, phone call!" while scurrying off.
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Post by CarolT on Oct 21, 2014 2:44:05 GMT
I hate to say it, but my 25 year old dd can be that way. She can find fault with and and be contrary about just about anything. When she gets going, I just don't engage - usually it sort of takes the wind out of her sails.
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Post by eebud on Oct 21, 2014 2:57:10 GMT
Sometimes my dad can be like this. It has caused some pretty heated battles between us where I have flown off the handle at him. For instance, he was in town when we were house hunting and looking for the home and location we would build for our retirement home. We knew of certain things we didn't want. Some of those things are gorgeous in a home but for our purposes, were a huge waste of space that we had to pay for, heat and cool, pay taxes on, etc. For the next 3 days, every chance he got, he threw in how wrong I was about the type of home we needed to build. I finally flew off the handle on about day 3 and yelled at him that when he was spending his money, then he could decide what kind of house DH and I purchased but until then, it was none of his business. He also LOVES to try to give me financial advice. This man worked well into his 70's before he was finally laid off because he had never saved a penny. He spent everything as fast as he could get it and then some. He was always in debt way over his head and still is to this day. On the other hand, DH and I are very financially responsible. We are 100% debt free. We have savings and investments. A financial adviser has told us that we are sitting very well financially to be able to retire at a younger age (we don't want to work until 65+). When he tries to give me financial advice, I usually just laugh and tell him that he is the last person I would take financial advice from. I love my dad but he can really drive me bonkers some times.
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Post by Goldynn on Oct 21, 2014 2:58:23 GMT
@ilovecookies, interesting that you posted this because it's been on my mind today. I have a friend who'll be staying at my house for 3 days this weekend and she's one of these people. It's become harder and harder to deal with her because she's getting so aggressive about making her points and always being right regarding everything said and done. She's a type A personality and no detail is too small for her to expound on. I'm exhausted just thinking about her visit.
I've learned to change the subject with her, not taking the bait. I also just ignore her whenever possible and say something non-related. I'm trying to limit time spent with her now, which is a shame since we've been friends since kindergarten. I just don't understand the pressing need for some to always be right and always want to conquer.
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Post by gryroagain on Oct 21, 2014 3:19:55 GMT
Oh yes, I know that person! Funny story- I had just become friends with my dds friends mom, I invited her hiking. In the forest there is an old cemetery, very cool. She insisted a grave was from 1559. I was pretty sure it was 1889, since it looked more like a worn 8 and... we are in Virginia, and well, Jamestown and all. She is a native Virginian by the way (I'm from Seattle) and it's even on the license plates. No one was here to write in English on a gravestone in 1559, Einstein. But we hadn't known each other long, so...I wasn't going to push it. Just giggled when later on Facebook up pops a photo of the cemetery and the "amazing old grave from 1559".
In general my tactic is to just let the person be right, because rarely do I care enough to argue with them. If they want to look dumb, hey, go for it.
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