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Post by Tearisci on Mar 9, 2020 16:25:25 GMT
My best friend is flying from SEA to DAL this week to visit me and she's seriously considering telling people she's from Portland instead of Seattle (half jokingly). I feel for all of you in the Seattle area where I'm from and still have family there. DS is in Bellingham and has already had some classes cancelled at WWU. I don't blame your friend. I have been wondering about WWU. Haven’t heard of anybody testing positive in the Bellingham area and unlike the school in Seattle and the Eastside, it sounds like Western hasn’t closed down yet. Why were only some cancelled? Apparently as of now, they are letting the teachers make the decisions about if they want to take the class online or meet in person. I suspect that this will be changing this shortly as other schools take preventative measures.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 9, 2020 17:17:24 GMT
again: this is NOT a political issue. I wasn't around much over the weekend, but I'm back now- and whenever I see that someone has added the Politics label to this thread, I'm gonna remove it. So whoever keeps adding it, you might as well just NOT. okay- ONE more time, for those who are slow on the uptake. I’m not sure who keeps doing it, but perhaps they feel differently about the political tag than how you/we do.We see it all the time, literal vs global thinking, black & white thinking vs shades of grey. Why should your or my definition decide what someone or others feel something is? If it keeps happening maybe it’s more than one person. Then wouldn’t their opinion be more valid? I don’t know what everyone’s definition of political means here, but my guess it it’s a broad definition and it means something different to different people. I guess it just feels like people are being told to sit down and shut up if they don’t agree with one unwritten definition.
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2020 17:21:07 GMT
okay- ONE more time, for those who are slow on the uptake. I’m not sure who keeps doing it, but perhaps they feel differently about the political tag than how you/we do.We see it all the time, literal vs global thinking, black & white thinking vs shades of grey. Why should your or my definition decide what someone or others feel something is? If it keeps happening maybe it’s more than one person. Then wouldn’t their opinion be more valid? I don’t know what everyone’s definition of political means here, but my guess it it’s a broad definition and it means something different to different people. I guess it just feels like people are being told to sit down and shut up if they don’t agree with one unwritten definition. The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 9, 2020 17:26:22 GMT
I don't blame your friend. I have been wondering about WWU. Haven’t heard of anybody testing positive in the Bellingham area and unlike the school in Seattle and the Eastside, it sounds like Western hasn’t closed down yet. Why were only some cancelled? Apparently as of now, they are letting the teachers make the decisions about if they want to take the class online or meet in person. I suspect that this will be changing this shortly as other schools take preventative measures. My dd goes to Edmonds CC and they are all online as of last week. My employer has all of our Seattle area employees working from home full time starting today. We are also changing some processes to email from physically mailing paperwork. Dd works in food service and it’s been really slow all weekend. Dh and I were out and about this weekend and it was hit and miss. Breakfast yesterday at iHop was packed, but the traffic on the freeway both Saturday and Sunday seemed much lighter than normal.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 9, 2020 17:31:24 GMT
I’m not sure who keeps doing it, but perhaps they feel differently about the political tag than how you/we do.We see it all the time, literal vs global thinking, black & white thinking vs shades of grey. Why should your or my definition decide what someone or others feel something is? If it keeps happening maybe it’s more than one person. Then wouldn’t their opinion be more valid? I don’t know what everyone’s definition of political means here, but my guess it it’s a broad definition and it means something different to different people. I guess it just feels like people are being told to sit down and shut up if they don’t agree with one unwritten definition. The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political. How did I know someone would have to tell me their definition My definition and your definition of what constitutes political discussion might not (appears to not) be the same as the peas marking these threads political It seems like anytime politics get brought up someone seems to think it’s a thread is now political Again, not my definition, but apparently it is someones.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 9, 2020 17:33:09 GMT
The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political. ^^^ thanks, gar . Would we mark a thread about cancer political? nope. Would we mark a thread about the 'regular' flu season political? nope. while the RESPONSE to the virus may INCLUDE political discussion (related to how different country's governments are responding to the health issue), the ISSUE ITSELF-- CORONAVIRUS COVID-19-- is NOT a political one. CoronavirusCOVID-19 is NOT a political topic, it is a HEALTH issue. (and yeah, people are certainly free to think what they want about it and mark the thread political, if they feel like it... just like I can think what I- and MOST of us, I'm guessing- think about it... and remove that label when I see it. I just figured I'd tell people what I was going to do, and save them the trouble of marking it in the first place.) It seems like anytime politics get brought up someone seems to think it’s a thread is now political ^^^ that doesn't mean this is what the label Politics was created for. It wasn't-- it was created for marking a thread that was MAINLY / MOSTLY / ONLY about a political topic.
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2020 17:36:03 GMT
The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political. How did I know someone would have to tell me their definition My definition and your definition of what constitutes political discussion might not (appears to not) be the same as the peas marking these threads political It seems like anytime politics get brought up someone seems to think it’s a thread is now political Again, not my definition, but apparently it is someones. I was quoting the actual dictionary definition, not my interpretation, for everyone's benefit
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 9, 2020 17:36:13 GMT
The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political. ^^^ thanks, gar . Would we mark a thread about cancer political? nope. Would we mark a thread about the 'regular' flu season political? nope. while the RESPONSE to the virus may INCLUDE political discussion (related to how different country's governments are responding to the health issue), the ISSUE ITSELF-- CORONAVIRUS-- is NOT a political one. Coronavirus is NOT a political topic, it is a HEALTH issue. (and yeah, people are certainly free to think what they want about it and mark the thread political, if they feel like it... just like I can think what I- and MOST of us, I'm guessing- think about it... and remove that label when I see it. I just figured I'd tell people what I was going to do, and save them the trouble of marking it.) It seems like anytime politics get brought up someone seems to think it’s a thread is now political ^^^ that doesn't mean this is what the label Politics was created for. It wasn't-- it was created for marking a thread that was MAINLY / MOSTLY / ONLY about a political topic. I really shouldn’t have replied
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 9, 2020 17:40:00 GMT
I’m not sure who keeps doing it, but perhaps they feel differently about the political tag than how you/we do.We see it all the time, literal vs global thinking, black & white thinking vs shades of grey. Why should your or my definition decide what someone or others feel something is? If it keeps happening maybe it’s more than one person. Then wouldn’t their opinion be more valid? I don’t know what everyone’s definition of political means here, but my guess it it’s a broad definition and it means something different to different people. I guess it just feels like people are being told to sit down and shut up if they don’t agree with one unwritten definition. The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political. Well Merriam Webster disagrees with you: Definition of political 1a: of or relating to government, a government, or the conduct of government A topic being political can absolutely relate to multiple governments. Although I doubt that's why the Political label is being added. I think many people want to avoid threads that involve bashing of politicians - whether it's warranted or not. There's been more than a few robust discussion that people want to be able to know whether they're entering that type of thread. The political label is meaningless to me as I have no issue discussing politics. But the reality is this thread has not only been about scientific facts or even discussing government responses. Hell several posters blatantly said they would continue to "bash Trump" and multiple people liked the post. So the idea that some now want to complain that the thread is being marked political is disingenuous at best.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 17:43:18 GMT
A Global health problem isn't by any stretch of the imagination politics gmcwife1 politics
/ˈpɒlɪtɪks/
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noun
1.
the activities associated with the governance of a country or area, especially the debate between parties having power.
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government
local government
affairs of state
public affairs
diplomacy
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activities aimed at improving someone's status or increasing power within an organization.
Nowhere do I see health in that definition. Did you feel the same when there was the Ebola crises? Did you think discussing that was political too?
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2020 17:47:44 GMT
The definition of Political is relating to the government or public affairs of a country. This isn't just about America - it's about virtually the whole world, therefore, not political. Well Merriam Webster disagrees with you: Definition of political 1a: of or relating to government, a government, or the conduct of government A topic being political can absolutely relate to multiple governments. Although I doubt that's why the Political label is being added. I think many people want to avoid threads that involve bashing of politicians - whether it's warranted or not. There's been more than a few robust discussion that people want to be able to know whether they're entering that type of thread. The political label is meaningless to me as I have no issue discussing politics. But the reality is this thread has not only been about scientific facts or even discussing government responses. Hell several posters blatantly said they would continue to "bash Trump" and multiple people liked the post. So the idea that some now want to complain that the thread is being marked political is disingenuous at best. We can't control odd comments that some posters make within a thread but this discussion isn't inherently/primarily a political one. It's about a worldwide health crisis, sharing information from many countries. It's not just about USA even if your government gets a mention. I genuinely don't think that warrants a political label.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 17:52:31 GMT
Come on, you know the peas can make anything political....
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Post by inkedup on Mar 9, 2020 17:54:40 GMT
I think that, to some Americans, an issue becomes political when it highlights the deficiencies of their preferred political party.
Unfortunately for us, the virus does not have a preferred political party and has not respected international borders.
Which means this is a human problem. It's an issue that affects us all, regardless of the country we live in or the president we voted for if we are American.
Labeling this political is myopic.
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2020 18:07:17 GMT
London numbers are suddenly going up fast and the first death there has just been announced.
And in parliament, the question of testing travellers arriving from Italy has just been addressed - apparently it's not a good indicator of the virus and there has been too many false positives.
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Post by wellway on Mar 9, 2020 18:07:59 GMT
Italian deaths jump again today to 463 from yesterdays number of 366. Hopefully the measures they are taking make a difference soon.
BBC More on the jump in Italian fatalities It has been confirmed that the death toll from the virus in Italy has increased from 366 to 463.
The total number of coronavirus cases in Italy has hit 9,172, rising from the 7,375 recorded on the previous day, the country’s Civil Protection agency has reported on its website.
It is the worst-affected country after China, where the virus originated.
The country has introduced a range of sweeping measure to contain the outbreak, with up to 16 million people quarantined in the north.
On Monday, Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said the coronavirus outbreak was the country's "darkest hour".
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Post by elaine on Mar 9, 2020 18:11:39 GMT
Italian deaths jump again today to 463 from yesterdays number of 366. Hopefully the measures they are taking make a difference soon. BBC More on the jump in Italian fatalities It has been confirmed that the death toll from the virus in Italy has increased from 366 to 463. The total number of coronavirus cases in Italy has hit 9,172, rising from the 7,375 recorded on the previous day, the country’s Civil Protection agency has reported on its website. It is the worst-affected country after China, where the virus originated. The country has introduced a range of sweeping measure to contain the outbreak, with up to 16 million people quarantined in the north. On Monday, Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said the coronavirus outbreak was the country's "darkest hour". Hopefully. Although with 1,797 new cases yesterday, it looks like it will take a while to slow the impact. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 9, 2020 18:15:20 GMT
I'm guessing someone is now adding the label just to see if I, or someone else, will actually remove it. whatever.
If someone DOES actually think this thread- or this TOPIC in general- is ACTUALLY political, then knock yourself out adding the Politics label to EVERY other thread about COVID-19.
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Post by lizacreates on Mar 9, 2020 18:18:09 GMT
I really shouldn’t have replied Lol. If this makes you feel better, I clearly understood that your intent was merely to point out that one’s interpretation of political may or may not jibe with someone else’s, dictionary definitions notwithstanding.
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Post by elaine on Mar 9, 2020 18:24:34 GMT
I'm guessing someone is now adding the label just to see if I, or someone else, will actually remove it. whatever. If someone DOES actually think this thread- or this TOPIC in general- is ACTUALLY political, then knock yourself out adding the Politics label to EVERY other thread about COVID-19. Ha! I've noticed too. I'm thinking maybe I need to start posting some good political slams on here to justify their actions. The irony being that the one poster called out for saying she was going to “bash Trump” on this thread, actually never did, beyond saying literally that math and science weren’t his strong suits, which doesn’t quite qualify as “bashing.”
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Post by papersilly on Mar 9, 2020 18:29:34 GMT
Yep. I’m with everyone else. He’s made it clear he doesn’t want the numbers going up, and if he has to risk more lives to do it, he will. but i have no doubt he will waste no time testing his family and closest contacts just to keep them and himself safe before he gives two shakes about everyone else in the country.
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Post by flanz on Mar 9, 2020 18:35:48 GMT
Thanks so much for this Zinger! I hadn't heard of McKinsey Global Institute. Seems like a really solid resource.
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2020 18:36:12 GMT
The UK's 5th death has just been announced and we're now being told that in the very near future anyone with even a mild temperature will be asked/expected to self isolate for 7 days. Not sure why only 7...
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Post by flanz on Mar 9, 2020 18:39:29 GMT
Well that is an interesting theory. I have to say, here in San Francisco where there is a strong Chinese population, the people I know say the Chinese government has under-reported the number of cases by at least ten times. I have no problem believing that, BUT the Chineese people here are NOT connected to that and their businesses should be supported as all the others are!! I agree completely! Sadly, I feel like I should avoid ALL restaurants right now, as people working in them tend not to stay home when sick. I WISH I could have a big party once a week at my fave local Chinese restaurant right now, to support the owner, who I've known for 30 years as we eat there regularly....
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Post by gmcwife1 on Mar 9, 2020 18:51:09 GMT
I really shouldn’t have replied Lol. If this makes you feel better, I clearly understood that your intent was merely to point out that one’s interpretation of political may or may not jibe with someone else’s, dictionary definitions notwithstanding. Thank you
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Post by Scrapper100 on Mar 9, 2020 18:58:06 GMT
I have no problem believing that, BUT the Chineese people here are NOT connected to that and their businesses should be supported as all the others are!! I agree completely! Sadly, I feel like I should avoid ALL restaurants right now, as people working in them tend not to stay home when sick. I WISH I could have a big party once a week at my fave local Chinese restaurant right now, to support the owner, who I've known for 30 years as we eat there regularly.... I worry about a lot of the mom and pops around here if businesses slows. Many are already having issues due to increases in minimum wage and food and supplies going up.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 9, 2020 19:28:31 GMT
How did I know someone would have to tell me their definition My definition and your definition of what constitutes political discussion might not (appears to not) be the same as the peas marking these threads political It seems like anytime politics get brought up someone seems to think it’s a thread is now political Again, not my definition, but apparently it is someones. I was quoting the actual dictionary definition, not my interpretation, for everyone's benefit Did you quote Merrium-Webster or Oxford? Or “worse” did you quote Wikipedia’s dictionary? 😜 Now there’s a “political” discussion which dictionary takes precedence, when & where?
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Post by yivit on Mar 9, 2020 19:32:22 GMT
NASA has its first center under mandatory telework and restricted access. Ames Research Center was notified yesterday that one of the employees there tested positive for COVID-19.
Ames is in Silicon Valley. The huge Google complex is literally across the street.
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Post by gar on Mar 9, 2020 19:37:18 GMT
I was quoting the actual dictionary definition, not my interpretation, for everyone's benefit Did you quote Merrium-Webster or Oxford? Or “worse” did you quote Wikipedia’s dictionary? 😜 Now there’s a “political” discussion which dictionary takes precedence, when & where? Ha ha...actually I don't know except that it wasn't Wiki!!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 9, 2020 20:02:31 GMT
3 cases of the corona virus in the county next to mine. 1 had traveled to Egypt 1 had been in DC 1 not sure
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Post by yivit on Mar 9, 2020 20:56:56 GMT
... and we have someone in the directorate I'm in who traveled internationally and had a layover in one of the identified countries. They're self-quarantined at home for 14 days.
Between that and Ames under restricted access, I'm making sure that I take anything I might need from my desk and putting it in my backpack at the end of each day (docking station, extra adapters for monitors, paper notebook) just in case we go from open to restricted access.
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