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Post by nlwilkins on Apr 15, 2020 5:05:32 GMT
It is all over the news about nurses and doctors having their hours cut and many being laid off. It is such a shame.
It seems a little short sighted to me. Yes, they are not being fired. But to expect all of them to be ready and available when needed is unrealistic. How are they to pay their bills in the meantime? I have a friend who cannot even get a job who is looking into other areas of work. She will not be so ready to step back into the line of fire when needed when it means quitting a sure fire job for one that might just end up cutting her hours or even laying her off again.
There has to be a better answer. I don't know what it is, but then I am not an expert on this. But there are people who are experts who need to figure it out.
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Post by lucyg on Apr 15, 2020 5:07:16 GMT
Horrifying. Thanks for posting. Off to read.
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Post by stittsygirl on Apr 15, 2020 5:34:37 GMT
My jobs (I have two) are entirely dependent on surgery (I’m a surgical technologist and a sterile processing tech). With elective surgical cases being halted all over the country you’ll see healthcare workers like me being layed-off or furloughed. I’m currently furloughed. I never thought I’d be considered non-essential but here we are. Surgery is one of the biggest money-makers for most hospitals, so many of them are going to be struggling financially with that loss of revenue. If they can’t find other necessary work for their employees in other parts of their facilities then they are not going to be able to keep all the employees on the payroll. Some nurses and other healthcare workers are willing and able and have the right skill set to travel to areas where they are desperately needed right now, which I’m sure is a huge benefit to them and the facilities receiving them as long as the worker doesn’t become sick themselves. I know that there are many who are not able or willing to do that, so they face furloughs or lay-offs or reduced pay. I don’t believe any of the furloughed nurses I work with at my same-day surgery clinic are working anywhere else at this time. I’m not sure how much experience they’d have in ER or ICU or even floor nursing, where most of the need is right now, or how confident they’d be trying to safely assimilate into that kind of role coming out of a surgery setting. It’s just a bad situation all the way around .
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Post by jlynnbarth on Apr 15, 2020 6:04:32 GMT
I was talking to a friend that is a nurse in a hospital in a rural area and she said that it’s absolutely crazy. She said in a normal week they saw people with kidney stones, gallbladder issues, heart attacks, appendix ruptures etc... many many times a week and in the past 3 weeks they’ve seen very few people with these issues. She’s wondering if people are just suffering at home? They are not set up as a covid19 hospital. They do not have the capability for it. They have zero cases in their town so far. She said it’s just really really odd. So I can see why nurses and doctors would be getting laid off or furloughed if this is the case at normal clinics and urgent care centers too. Maybe they will be called in to the larger hospitals to help where needed?
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Post by stittsygirl on Apr 15, 2020 6:16:50 GMT
I was talking to a friend that is a nurse in a hospital in a rural area and she said that it’s absolutely crazy. She said in a normal week they saw people with kidney stones, gallbladder issues, heart attacks, appendix ruptures etc... many many times a week and in the past 3 weeks they’ve seen very few people with these issues. She’s wondering if people are just suffering at home? They are not set up as a covid19 hospital. They do not have the capability for it. They have zero cases in their town so far. She said it’s just really really odd. So I can see why nurses and doctors would be getting laid off or furloughed if this is the case at normal clinics and urgent care centers too. Maybe they will be called in to the larger hospitals to help where needed? I’m sure there are many people terrified to enter an emergency room right now, afraid they’ll contract the virus. Hopefully we won’t see a whole subset of deaths from people who waited too long to get their heart or appendix or gall bladder checked out
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Post by pjaye on Apr 15, 2020 6:20:15 GMT
Yep - nurse here and I haven't worked in two weeks. A lot of the issue is PPE. All elective surgery has been cancelled because there's not enough PPE to continue and they are scared of not having enough for the staff who are and will be caring for covid-19 patients now and in the immediate future. Plus them you have potentially covid pts coming in and infecting other already unwell hospital patients. I had a training day last week which included correct on & off of PPE but there were no masks to practice with - we had to "pretend" we had masks and put them on and take them off who knew nursing would include mime lessons?? Where I am we have successfully reduced transmission for now - we have around 4500 ICU/ventilator beds available (for the State), but currently there are only 40 people in hospital and another 15 in ICU - so there is no strain on the healthcare system yet - which of course is great, but the other side of that is it means there's lots of nurses with literally no patients to look after, and we are all being asked to take leave.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 6:40:37 GMT
My husband has something bad going on in his neck. He is doing everything he can to avoid the hospital system right now.
Bad is in his pinky and ring finger are numb and the pain attacks are almost crippling.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 15, 2020 7:29:49 GMT
I didn't read the linked articles but nurses in San Diego are being furloughed right now.
Three of the four in my household had what would be considered elective surgeries last fall. Mine was at at hospital (day surgery for laparoscopic gallbladder removal) and the other two at surgical centers that are probably shut down right now. If nothing else, I hope this pandemic highlights the inefficiencies in the US medical system.
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Post by Zee on Apr 15, 2020 10:25:58 GMT
My unit has been shut down for over 4 weeks. They combined our staff with another unit and we take turns getting put on standby. I must say, my facility has been really trying their best to find hours for us and the OR staff and others. It's just now getting to the point where they need helpers with the Covids which I have done a couple times in addition to other supportive roles over the last few weeks. They have started finding supportive roles for staff from ancillary depts and our affiliated medical offices and clinics as well.
The ER is very slow because people are afraid to come in unless they're very sick, as they should be doing right now. Obviously, elective procedures are cancelled.
They are not furloughing anyone right now. I mentioned I wanted to see about taking a travel contract but they said no one is going to be granted a LOA right now so here I sit. I could quit I guess but I like it here so I'm not willing to do that.
They have opened up 3 Covid ICUs and my unit is going to be turned into the 4th, so we should all be back to full time soon. We're not expecting the peak to hit until May 1. I know the critical care nurses need a break and while they'll still have to be here to manage certain things I'm not signed off on such as certain critical care equipment, I can do most anything the patients need. Also, no one mentions how hard the RTs work--they're frazzled right now with all these Covid pts. Shout out to them!
TL;DR: those who are laid off could be getting lucrative pay if they can travel. The rest of us will be needed soon enough I think! But it's tough for many right now, especially those with a single income.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Apr 15, 2020 10:38:46 GMT
I was talking to a friend that is a nurse in a hospital in a rural area and she said that it’s absolutely crazy. She said in a normal week they saw people with kidney stones, gallbladder issues, heart attacks, appendix ruptures etc... many many times a week and in the past 3 weeks they’ve seen very few people with these issues. She’s wondering if people are just suffering at home? They are not set up as a covid19 hospital. They do not have the capability for it. They have zero cases in their town so far. She said it’s just really really odd. So I can see why nurses and doctors would be getting laid off or furloughed if this is the case at normal clinics and urgent care centers too. Maybe they will be called in to the larger hospitals to help where needed? I’m sure there are many people terrified to enter an emergency room right now, afraid they’ll contract the virus. Hopefully we won’t see a whole subset of deaths from people who waited too long to get their heart or appendix or gall bladder checked out Yes, there was a Facebook post on the page of the GP surgery where I work, saying they had already had losses due to heart attacks and strokes where the patients had been afraid to call for help. If you have a choice of how to go, would you prefer at home with your family, or in hospital by yourself? People are choosing quality of life over quantity.
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Post by Zee on Apr 15, 2020 11:53:08 GMT
I’m sure there are many people terrified to enter an emergency room right now, afraid they’ll contract the virus. Hopefully we won’t see a whole subset of deaths from people who waited too long to get their heart or appendix or gall bladder checked out Yes, there was a Facebook post on the page of the GP surgery where I work, saying they had already had losses due to heart attacks and strokes where the patients had been afraid to call for help. If you have a choice of how to go, would you prefer 9at home with your family, or in hospital by yourself? People are choosing quality of life over quantity. I know I'll sound odd here but I'd much rather get my chest pain checked out than die at home. I find nurses to be very comforting (partly why I became one) and even if I was dying, not sure I wouldn't want to do it where my family didn't have to see. In any case they will let your family see you if you are actually dying (probably only one at a time right now, and limited numbers, but still), unless you do it so fast they can't notify your family in time. I'm not so scared of Covid that I'd choose to die rather than risk the hospital, but then I work in one so my perspective is skewed I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:04:43 GMT
I'm a nurse too but in the federal system so we aren't having any furloughs. My whole take on the situation is that the nurses working now have got to be reaching their breaking points, physically and emotionally. They're going to need some time off so hospitals will need a fresh "batch" if you will of nurses to come in to relieve them. I work in a primary care office and that is the plan for us right now. We're sitting tight and being re-trained in our former areas of expertise such as the Emergency Department and ICU so we can step in when needed.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 15, 2020 12:08:09 GMT
My niece is a PICU nurse in Broward county Florida and she’s been called out two of her last three shifts. Granted she’s working two 12 hour days per week because her husband is a fireman in Pompano Beach so they work opposite each other so the kids don’t go to daycare. She said they’re not seeing a lot of sick children. She’s thankful though that her husband is able to put in some overtime
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Post by Suziee2 on Apr 15, 2020 12:09:46 GMT
My mom just told me yesterday that this happened to a good friend. She is a surgical nurse in a rural area in Michigan. Within the last year, she started working 2-3 days a week, gearing up for retirement. Her hospital told her they wouldn't be needing her any longer. She could volunteer her time in another area of the hospital if she chose to. She just turned 62 this month and opted for retirement. I don't know how many others were let go, but I do know she wasn't the only one.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Apr 15, 2020 12:18:28 GMT
Our local 322-bed hospital recently furloughed 810 workers. That of course includes a lot of support staff, but the community was surprised at so many nurses and specialty providers being released. They are also encouraging other employees to take time off, both paid and unpaid.
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Post by Peamac on Apr 15, 2020 13:15:36 GMT
My husband has something bad going on in his neck. He is doing everything he can to avoid the hospital system right now. Bad is in his pinky and ring finger are numb and the pain attacks are almost crippling. I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on tv, but it sounds like he really needs to go in and be seen! DH had to go to a clinic last week for a work physical for a new job (since he was laid off of both his driving jobs a few weeks ago). They had us fill out forms re: Covid 19, I assume so they can contact us if they find out that someone had been infected while we were there. Everyone was wearing masks, everything was being wiped down, etc. All precautions were taken. I know of someone who went to the ER and was only with the Dr and nurse that were treating her- never around anyone else. I think those healthcare places that are still open are being very VERY careful. DD2 had her first ultrasound last week. Her DH wasn't even allowed in the building- patients only, and they had to use a different entrance- no waiting in a waiting room first.
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Post by Zee on Apr 15, 2020 13:18:55 GMT
My husband has something bad going on in his neck. He is doing everything he can to avoid the hospital system right now. Bad is in his pinky and ring finger are numb and the pain attacks are almost crippling. He should call his doctor's office so they can set up some imaging or whatever they might want to do, if he's worried about going to the ER.
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Post by teddyw on Apr 15, 2020 13:55:54 GMT
I’m a nurse in a corporate medical clinic. Almost everyone is working from home so they don’t need us. The company was actually going to discontinue this service completely by may.
I think I will be going back for a while and taking temps at the door when people finally return.
This place has tons of meetings. Now that they are all doing them from home I bet more people stay working from home.
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Post by houseofcurls on Apr 15, 2020 14:17:56 GMT
My unit was converted to a covid-19 unit so there's probably no chance of me being laid off soon. BUT I will say that the ED is pretty dead. No one wants to come in and catch the virus. It has become a place for true emergencies these days. I do wonder though if people are suffering or dying at home. Because of that the hospital is low census. My unit is the 2nd covid-only unit in my hospital. Initially we were just to take the overflow from the first one. Seems like we're the only floors that are ramping up. The wave is coming our way, ugh. Any nurses here out of work want to join me?
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Post by ddly on Apr 15, 2020 14:28:44 GMT
I'm not a nurse, but I need a knee replacement. I was going to do it this summer while on summer break, but that will not be happening. I'm reaching the point where I can barely walk. It sucks. I tried an injection and that did nothing. I'd love to be out raking my gardens. This is the first time in 24 years that we have not had snow this early in the spring, but alas, I can not. Sitting all day hurts, standing up hurts, walking hurts. It just sucks.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Apr 15, 2020 15:01:11 GMT
My girlfriend in MA works for a Nursing Staff Temp Service. She just posted this this morning On Facebook if any healthcare professionals are interested—
“We are hiring in MA-If you are a healthcare professional and license in MA, PLEASE let me know! Also, if you are NOT licensed in MA you can get an MA license in 24 hours if you are interested”.
If anyone is interested Message me and I will give you her contact info.
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Post by Country Ham on Apr 15, 2020 15:16:01 GMT
She said in a normal week they saw people with kidney stones, gallbladder issues, heart attacks, appendix ruptures etc... many many times a week and in the past 3 weeks they’ve seen very few people with these issues. She’s wondering if people are just suffering at home? T My friend's boy had an appendectomy 2 weeks ago. We are rural. The little hospital 20 miles from here did it. No way were they taking him to a big city hospital. The big town hospital an hour from here has lot of bunch of folks but it's related to all their walk in services. Outpatient Xrays, blood labs etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 15:26:25 GMT
My husband has something bad going on in his neck. He is doing everything he can to avoid the hospital system right now. Bad is in his pinky and ring finger are numb and the pain attacks are almost crippling. He should call his doctor's office so they can set up some imaging or whatever they might want to do, if he's worried about going to the ER. The primary doc is a bigger duck than my duck. All he is going to do is send husband everywhere but to get some sort of image. I did call the office that did his back surgery to see if he could get in there. All they need is an x-ray and a referral to get in.
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