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Post by flanz on Apr 17, 2020 17:23:57 GMT
So much conflicting info on using cloth masks. Filter, type of filter, fabric type, multiple fabric layers, how many is enough? I have seen a medical serviced provider's chart which states a big fat "0" protection from cloth masks. A family member has made and distributed masks to us. I just don't know how much confidence to have in it. I have also see where the 6' distancing recommendation isn't near enough. It should be more like 15'. Quite a difference isn't it? I think I will just stay under the bed! I am not an expert but I believe that wearing cloth masks while out in public is largely to protect others in case you, the wearer, are already infected and asymptomatic. As far as the wearer of a fabric mask being protected, there are reports that there is some benefit to wearing a mask vs. nothing, and the tightness of the fabric weave is key there. So batik fabrics, very tightly woven cotton bed sheets, etc. seem best. Here, in wildfire country, many of us have N95 masks due to terrible past situations with smoke. So the fabric masks I'm making are being worn over an N95 by some people, to extend the life of the N95. If I didn't have an N95 at all, I would still be wearing a fabric mask. but I agree with you completely straggler - there are so very many opinions and conflicting info out there!
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Post by flanz on Apr 17, 2020 17:27:59 GMT
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Post by flanz on Apr 17, 2020 17:29:23 GMT
Remember—masks are NOT a substitution for social distancing. Honestly—short of a respirator mask—they will do VERY LITTLE to protect you! We wear the masks to protect others—not ourselves. They CAN reduce the virus that WE might spread. The idea is that if everyone wears a mask, there will be fewer virus particles for us to come in contact with. So, ABSOLUTELY, wear a mask. But don’t get caught up in trying to get an N95 (unless, of course, you are a frontline worker, or extremely vulnerable, like Patter ‘s daughter). And, PLEASE, do your research before cutting up air filters or vacuum filters. Many contain fiberglass shards that can be released when cut. I don’t want to breathe in glass anymore than I want to breathe in Covid 19. 100% this!!!
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Post by dewryce on Apr 17, 2020 17:45:30 GMT
NOT HEPA FILTERS OR VACUUM BAGS. I've read that they both have tiny GLASS SHARDS!!! This is not true for regular vacuum cleaner bags for home use, at least not for the good ones. Industrial ones, yes. But not home use ones. Always double check of course. Some of the home ones I’ve seen have a prop65 warning.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 17, 2020 17:53:11 GMT
I was asleep when this article came out and by the time I went to look they were out everywhere! But I was able to find 2 containers at a Tractor Supply Co. about 45 minutes away. I ordered them online and when DH went to pick them up he didn’t even have to get out of the car, just push the button for the lift gate. I got a lot so that we can cut them up and give them to his coworkers.
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Post by dewryce on Apr 17, 2020 19:43:41 GMT
I have to share my find, I knew y’all would get the emotional impact. I was organizing a drawer in the garage and guess what I found?
Even on 3 anti-anxiety meds my chest is still tight, but in a good way I guess? We have a box for protective equipment, I’m not sure why they weren’t in there being protected from the elements and dust!
(OK, lets be honest, I know why they were there. As @stephdrebel chants “I love my husband, I love my husband, I LOVE my husband!”)
They look good, as in not fake, but they’re super old so I’m wondering if they’re expired. Going to check that CDC website. It just kills me that he and his coworkers could have been wearing these the entire time. I hope we have enough for all of them!
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Post by peaname on Apr 17, 2020 20:52:06 GMT
When the surge is over her doctor may have access to N95 masks. I wouldn’t pay astronomical prices from an unverified source at this point. It’s scary when the people you love are vulnerable.
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Post by moretimeplease on Apr 17, 2020 23:49:33 GMT
Patter This doctor fit-tested four mask types, using Halyard H600. One of the styles actually passed the fit-test, just like a respirator. Check the video and her attachments. She lists all the evidenced-based websites she researched. She also has links to source the Halyard H600. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZBbkn-g-vE
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Post by Patter on Apr 18, 2020 10:33:29 GMT
Patter This doctor fit-tested four mask types, using Halyard H600. One of the styles actually passed the fit-test, just like a respirator. Check the video and her attachments. She lists all the evidenced-based websites she researched. She also has links to source the Halyard H600. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZBbkn-g-vE That was the BEST video I have watched yet. She is precious, and loved her dog at the end. Anyway, loved her research. This is awesome, and it makes total sense. Thank you for posting this. I truly appreciate it!
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Post by flanz on Apr 18, 2020 19:09:28 GMT
Thanks again for sharing this. I was able to order the Tool Box towels from a tractor supply place not far from here.
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Post by pmm on Apr 18, 2020 21:29:03 GMT
I would talk to her medical team about what type of mask they recommend. For a reliable fit, one must be fitted tested to make sure the mask has a good seal on the user. I'm a respiratory therapist and we get fit tested every year. If we fail to find a mask with a good seal, we have an alternative device that we must use in airborne precautions.
Positive wishes for her and everyone's health.
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Post by Patter on Apr 18, 2020 22:13:41 GMT
I would talk to her medical team about what type of mask they recommend. For a reliable fit, one must be fitted tested to make sure the mask has a good seal on the user. I'm a respiratory therapist and we get fit tested every year. If we fail to find a mask with a good seal, we have an alternative device that we must use in airborne precautions. Positive wishes for her and everyone's health. We have talked to her cardiologist, and we were not happy with the response--follow CDC guidelines--which say nothing different than what all people are supposed to be doing. We are now going to check with her GP.
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Post by genealopea on Apr 18, 2020 23:08:11 GMT
Patter, you're near Charlotte, right? I have an extra N95 I'd be happy to share with you. My brother found a package in his workshop and sent them to me because I'm immunocompromised. Let me know if you'd like it, and I can meet you somewhere. I'm just south of Charlotte.
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Post by paigepea on Apr 19, 2020 2:41:32 GMT
Does her dr suggest an N95 mask? I really think only health professionals working with covid positive or symptom positive patients require N95 masks. She should not be in a position that requires that type of mask unless she’s performing intubation on patients. I’d think get advice from her doctor as he/she might suggest a surgical mask.
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Post by Patter on Apr 19, 2020 10:42:36 GMT
genealopea you are too sweet. I am about 1 hour 15 minutes from you. Hubby actually found one in his tool closet. He remembered last night that he had purchased a package for something he did a few years ago. He bought two but only used one. Now we have to see what size it is. I will let you know if I think we need to try yours. You are awesome for wanting to help. Thanks! And paigepea, yes, we have talked to her cardiologist. I posted a couple of posts above you. We are going to talk to her GP now. The cardiologists suggestion (after the follow the CDC guidelines) was a letter telling her to move to a different job. Hello, she is a teacher!!!! Ugh! My daughter cried and cried when she got that message. I am also ordered Halyard 600 from the video. I think that's going to be our best bet using that material and I make the mask.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 13:17:12 GMT
Patter This doctor fit-tested four mask types, using Halyard H600. One of the styles actually passed the fit-test, just like a respirator. Check the video and her attachments. She lists all the evidenced-based websites she researched. She also has links to source the Halyard H600. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZBbkn-g-vE Thank you! And thanks to all the peas for the information and offers of help and care. The peas are the most amazing, caring community.
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Post by pmm on Apr 21, 2020 0:28:57 GMT
I would talk to her medical team about what type of mask they recommend. For a reliable fit, one must be fitted tested to make sure the mask has a good seal on the user. I'm a respiratory therapist and we get fit tested every year. If we fail to find a mask with a good seal, we have an alternative device that we must use in airborne precautions. Positive wishes for her and everyone's health. We have talked to her cardiologist, and we were not happy with the response--follow CDC guidelines--which say nothing different than what all people are supposed to be doing. We are now going to check with her GP. That is frustrating! I work at a Children's Hospital, I will try and make it up to the CICU tomorrow and find out what our docs are telling our patients. If it's different than what you've already been told, I'll come back and post.
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Post by Patter on Apr 21, 2020 12:24:17 GMT
Wow pmm, thank you SO much. I appreciate you!
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Post by pmm on Apr 22, 2020 0:43:19 GMT
Patter, the doctor on today isn't an easy guy to talk to, so I chickened out. I work this weekend and will give it another go.
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Post by Patter on Apr 22, 2020 9:29:55 GMT
Patter , the doctor on today isn't an easy guy to talk to, so I chickened out. I work this weekend and will give it another go. No worries. I get that. My daughter is really funny in sharing which docs are easy to talk to, learn from, and which you just avoid. There are people like that in every profession. Thanks, and thanks for all you do!
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