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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 13:50:12 GMT
Hey everyone! You know that I'm super transparent on this board about my life ... My bff and I always give each other silver necklaces for our birthdays and for Christmas ... we each have large collections now ... her birthday was in January and I gave her a really cute one My ex and I separated in September and I've been dating ... I've seen a few people since then ... I don't think she approves even though she did the exact same thing a number of years ago I hardly ever hear from her now but she told my ex that I ghosted her ... WTF? I did no such thing! When you feel judged you don't want to reach out, kwim? Anyway, our relationship is obviously on rocky ground ... It was my birthday on Saturday ... on Sunday she dropped off a gift on my doorstep ... a bottle of wine No necklace. This has really hurt my feelings I don't think I'll be texting her for awhile because I'm mad and hurt ... Thanks for letting me vent May 3 Update ... I haven't had the energy to call her ... I really am just too emotional about the situation right now ... I will do it this week sometime but today is not the day ... sorry for the disappointing update ...
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Post by kenziekeeper on Apr 29, 2020 13:54:10 GMT
I think not sending even an acknowledgement text will look even more like you’re ghosting her. She seems to feel as though the relationship has changed, which, from what you wrote seems to be a fair assumption. If she’s a long term best friend, you’re better off speaking up and saying how you feel. It seems petty to stomp your foot and be upset the gift was “only” wine. Just food for thought!
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Post by Mel on Apr 29, 2020 13:54:49 GMT
Happy Belated Birthday! I'm sorry you were hurt by your bff. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/mYSUyHtG9Jrcmm_ydVcK.jpg) Now might be the best time to talk to her about things...mention to her that you missed your traditional birthday necklace & go from there. Transition is hard & maybe she just isn't sure where she fits into your new chapter? I hope you can work it out. HUGS!
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Post by busy on Apr 29, 2020 13:57:07 GMT
I’m sorry you’re mad and hurt.
A long relationship needs open communication to persist. It doesn’t sound like you’ve had a real conversation with her about the changes in your relationship. That seems necessary to me. I hope you find a way to keep your friendship strong.
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Post by gar on Apr 29, 2020 14:04:26 GMT
You say you don’t ‘think’ she approves - so maybe you don’t know for sure and maybe you have misread things. Be the grown up. Call her and thank her for the wine and go from there.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Apr 29, 2020 14:10:37 GMT
I'm sorry you are hurt (and Happy Birthday btw!) This gives you a good opportunity to have a conversation with her though before it goes any further. Third party info is never a good thing.
My mother is the type that informs everybody but you that she has a problem with you. We had some issues and I heard about them though a third party and my head was spinning because she was creating problem that weren't there. A simple conversation would have cleared it up much earlier.
I'd try to put aside the hurt long enough to have a conversation if you want to see if the relationship can be salvaged. No judgement on you at all...sometimes you just have to make the first move and it seems like you may have to hear since she's talking to others not you.
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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 14:22:16 GMT
I think not sending even an acknowledgement text will look even more like you’re ghosting her. She seems to feel as though the relationship has changed, which, from what you wrote seems to be a fair assumption. If she’s a long term best friend, you’re better off speaking up and saying how you feel. It seems petty to stomp your foot and be upset the gift was “only” wine. Just food for thought! Oh, I did send a thank you text! I'm afraid to tell her how I feel
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 29, 2020 14:24:05 GMT
She did acknowledge the day, she didn’t totally forget and I think that should tell you something. The other thing to keep in mind right now is that hello, we’re in the middle of a pandemic. People are not just going out to shop leisurely like we did even back in January, not to mention where is anybody even going to shop for jewelry right now? Where I am, all nonessential businesses are still closed, all the malls are closed. Maybe something could be ordered from somebody on Etsy or something, but even that has its challenges.
Since it seems to be a long time, valued friendship, I would be more willing to give her some grace right now. What other challenges is she facing at home? Take those things into consideration before you just completely write her off as being uncaring. I’d actually talk to her (not text) and have a heart to heart conversation to get back on the same page.
ETA: I didn’t realize you’re a recovering alcoholic. That definitely changes everything, because giving alcohol to someone you know is in recovery is a really shitty thing to do.
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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 14:26:19 GMT
Since it seems to be a long time, valued friendship, I would be more willing to give her some grace right now. What other challenges is she facing at home? Take those things into consideration before you just completely write her off as being uncaring. I’d actually talk to her (not text) and have a heart to heart conversation to get back on the same page. That's good advice ... thank you
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Post by peabay on Apr 29, 2020 14:27:50 GMT
Could she possibly have been thinking "no one is going out right now, it's a silly time to give someone a silver necklace. What can she really use? A bottle of wine!"
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Post by sasha on Apr 29, 2020 14:32:53 GMT
She did acknowledge the day, she didn’t totally forget and I think that should tell you something. The other thing to keep in mind right now is that hello, we’re in the middle of a pandemic. People are not just going out to shop leisurely like we did even back in January, not to mention where is anybody even going to shop for jewelry right now? Where I am, all nonessential businesses are still closed, all the malls are closed. Maybe something could be ordered from somebody on Etsy or something, but even that has its challenges. Since it seems to be a long time, valued friendship, I would be more willing to give her some grace right now. What other challenges is she facing at home? Take those things into consideration before you just completely write her off as being uncaring. I’d actually talk to her (not text) and have a heart to heart conversation to get back on the same page. I was thinking the same thing about the silver necklaces. The other thing i was wondering is whether you might subconsciously feel like your love life is somehow wrong? If you can make the judgment leap that quickly, maybe you have some sort of feelings you haven't addressed internally about it? Almost feels like you are judging yourself? (BTW, this is not me judging you. I feel like if you are enjoying your dating life, that's great!)
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 29, 2020 14:33:11 GMT
Leanne, you know I think you have a good heart, but if your own bff is worried about you, and doesn't approve of your dating, then I would take this as a wake up call. Along with what we have voiced on here. And I would assume your bff probably knows even more IRL. I'm a big believer in getting yourself together after a divorce, break up, or problems in marriages. Living on your own. figuring out what you want in life. Dating seems like a distraction to you. Almost an...obsession? Maybe it's time to have a heart to heart with your friend. You said you are scared. of what? losing her friendship? right now it sounds like you don't have much of one, and maybe she's trying to tell you something. I think it's the right thing to talk to her, and get her side of the story. It could even make the friendship better again if you guys hear each other out. I also find that when friends get boyfriends they tend to leave their girl friends. Basically ghost them, because they are so caught up in the dating/sex/start of a relationship, so they basically just drop their girl friends. Even though the girl friends have been there thru the thick and thin. It sort of stings a bit on the girl friends side.
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Post by librarylady on Apr 29, 2020 14:35:01 GMT
Besides what others have said, she may be wanting to change the annual necklace gift and since 2020 is bringing all sorts of changes, this was the year to do so............
Really, TALK to her, not just a text!!
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Post by peatlejuice on Apr 29, 2020 14:49:50 GMT
I'm confused, because on your single ladies thread, you said the day after your birthday that your "FWB and BFF really came through" and you had a great day. I'm sorry you feel hurt, though.
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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 14:50:11 GMT
The other thing i was wondering is whether you might subconsciously feel like your love life is somehow wrong? If you can make the judgment leap that quickly, maybe you have some sort of feelings you haven't addressed internally about it? Almost feels like you are judging yourself? (BTW, this is not me judging you. I feel like if you are enjoying your dating life, that's great!) I don't feel that way at all ... I'm really living my best life right now ... 22 years of devoting my energy to a husband and two daughters left me burnt out ... now I have time for me
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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 14:53:50 GMT
I think it's the right thing to talk to her, and get her side of the story. It could even make the friendship better again if you guys hear each other out. I also find that when friends get boyfriends they tend to leave their girl friends. Basically ghost them, because they are so caught up in the dating/sex/start of a relationship, so they basically just drop their girl friends. Even though the girl friends have been there thru the thick and thin. It sort of stings a bit on the girl friends side. It was actually the other way around ... she recently got married and her life revolves around him ... she stopped contacting me as often ... I didn't drop her I'll definitely get in touch with her ... thanks for your thoughts
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 29, 2020 14:55:26 GMT
You could bring up the comment from ex as a way to start the conversation about the relationship. Or just say something like, “I feel that our relationship has changed and I miss the way we used to be” and go from there. What makes you think she doesn’t approve? Has she said something about your behavior? You say she did similar things years ago, but what does that mean? You seem to have done more than “date a few people” since your divorce so maybe she doesn’t know where she fits now, or feels that you have Changed? Or you are both in different places In life now that she is married and you are single? Either way, having a conversation about it would be helpful to see where your relationship is at.
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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 14:58:15 GMT
I'm confused, because on your single ladies thread, you said the day after your birthday that your "FWB and BFF really came through" and you had a great day. I'm sorry you feel hurt, though. I have a newer, second, BFF ... she is actually single so is a better fit right now in this time in my life ... Yes, my life is complicated
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Post by christine58 on Apr 29, 2020 14:59:38 GMT
I don't think I'll be texting her for awhile because I'm mad and hurt ... I'd tell her you're hurt and mad. I had to do that with a friend and you know what...looking back on a 30 year friendship that ended because of her lies, I realized she was never really a friend at all.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 29, 2020 15:03:41 GMT
I think it's the right thing to talk to her, and get her side of the story. It could even make the friendship better again if you guys hear each other out. I also find that when friends get boyfriends they tend to leave their girl friends. Basically ghost them, because they are so caught up in the dating/sex/start of a relationship, so they basically just drop their girl friends. Even though the girl friends have been there thru the thick and thin. It sort of stings a bit on the girl friends side. It was actually the other way around ... she recently got married and her life revolves around him ... she stopped contacting me as often ... I didn't drop her I'll definitely get in touch with her ... thanks for your thoughts I feel like everyone always jumps to this way too quickly, but could she be jealous? Was her courtship kinda quick maybe, and she misses the excitement? Maybe married life isn’t the fairytale she imagined? Or maybe she’s having wedding blues? I’ve found just as often I need to listen and pay attention to what people say about me, that I’ve also come to realize the opposite and people can be unhappy and project onto you.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Apr 29, 2020 15:06:49 GMT
I'm confused, because on your single ladies thread, you said the day after your birthday that your "FWB and BFF really came through" and you had a great day. I'm sorry you feel hurt, though. I have a newer, second, BFF ... she is actually single so is a better fit right now in this time in my life ... Yes, my life is complicated Oh well that answers a lot. You’ve sorta replaced her. Her feelings must be really hurt. I would feel ignored/ghosted as well.
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Post by peasquared on Apr 29, 2020 15:09:31 GMT
Could it be she feels replaced by the newer BFF since you two have more in common right now? Maybe she feels left out.
If you value her, please take the time to try to save this friendship. Great friends are hard to come by.
Happy Belated Birthday, BTW!
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Post by workingclassdog on Apr 29, 2020 15:19:47 GMT
Yeah.. I would open the lines as soon as possible because it will get harder and harder, then weird and so forth.
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Post by jubejubes on Apr 29, 2020 15:21:35 GMT
It was my birthday on Saturday ... on Sunday she dropped off a gift on my doorstep ... a bottle of wine ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/6XNh98aNlGG6JLnVAPyQ.jpg) Is this the bff whose wedding you went to just before your split? Doesn't she know that you do not drink anymore since you were treated to alcohol addiction? IF so, very thoughtless.
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Post by leftturnonly on Apr 29, 2020 15:32:22 GMT
It was my birthday on Saturday ... on Sunday she dropped off a gift on my doorstep ... a bottle of wine ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/6XNh98aNlGG6JLnVAPyQ.jpg) Is this the bff whose wedding you went to just before your split? Doesn't she know that you do not drink anymore since you were treated to alcohol addiction? IF so, very thoughtless. Wait. What? Come again. You've had a problem with alcohol that you've openly acknowledged and your BFF gave you a bottle of wine when you were reasonably expecting something else? And at a very stressful time when she knows you're home alone most of the time? You could have led with that! That changes everything.
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Post by scrapmaven on Apr 29, 2020 15:59:57 GMT
The bottle of wine tells me that she's hurt and angry. She knows that you're in recovery and it's an FU. Something is going on and I think that you should call her or text and ask for a video chat. You need to talk about both of your feelings. She's upset and she's afraid for you. Plus, she might be feeling abandoned. Perhaps as a newlywed, she doesn't understand how you could possibly be divorcing your stbx? This doesn't mean that you can't be friends, but it means that you have work to do together.
Divorce shakes up your foundation and everything is up in the air, so you're likely struggling to re-invent your life. Plus, he was not a nice husband. So, there is a lot of healing work to do there. Perhaps it's time to take a breath, step back and see what you really need right now. When people are concerned it doesn't always mean that they're judging. I'm speaking from my heart right now. Sometimes they're just concerned, because they care about you. I'm concerned, because I want the best for you and your happiness is important. Right now you're having fun, but it sort of seems as though you're going a mile a minute. I just don't want you to crash at the end. You deserve happiness and true friendship. Don't settle for anything less.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 29, 2020 16:01:17 GMT
I was thinking the same thing about the silver necklaces. leannec Can you post a pic of these?? I am always looking for new necklaces! WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?? She gave you WINE? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I missed that part. She knows you're a recovering alcoholic. I'd be done.
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Post by mom on Apr 29, 2020 18:59:06 GMT
The bottle of wine tells me that she's hurt and angry. She knows that you're in recovery and it's an FU. Something is going on and I think that you should call her or text and ask for a video chat. You need to talk about both of your feelings. She's upset and she's afraid for you. Plus, she might be feeling abandoned. Perhaps as a newlywed, she doesn't understand how you could possibly be divorcing your stbx? This doesn't mean that you can't be friends, but it means that you have work to do together. Divorce shakes up your foundation and everything is up in the air, so you're likely struggling to re-invent your life. Plus, he was not a nice husband. So, there is a lot of healing work to do there. Perhaps it's time to take a breath, step back and see what you really need right now. When people are concerned it doesn't always mean that they're judging. I'm speaking from my heart right now. Sometimes they're just concerned, because they care about you. I'm concerned, because I want the best for you and your happiness is important. Right now you're having fun, but it sort of seems as though you're going a mile a minute. I just don't want you to crash at the end. You deserve happiness and true friendship. Don't settle for anything less. Read this again. Several Peas that have known you are worried about you & have shared their concerns. Your BFF is showing signs that she is concerned. Your daughters have left your home to go live with dad (and to be fair, I dont know why they chose to leave, but you've shared that they did and you were sad about it). People who care about you are telling you they are concerned. You've got a new normal of going from man to man, you have a new BFF. That a lot for one person in such a short period of time. In my experience with you, you don't particularly want to accept advice or acknowledge big red flags. If you truly want this 'BFF' to be in your life then I think you have to call her up and talk. But also LISTEN and take to heart what she says. Also? IMHO you are expecting her to shower you with exclusive BFF status presents like in the past but you've admitted you already have a new second BFF. If you previously gave her 100% of your BFF attention, she probably is hurt. You said you never hear from her. Are you reaching out to her to check on how she is? Friendship is a two way street.
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Post by Prenticekid on Apr 29, 2020 19:17:15 GMT
I have a newer, second, BFF ... she is actually single so is a better fit right now in this time in my life ... Yes, my life is complicated Oh well that answers a lot. You’ve sorta replaced her. Her feelings must be really hurt. I would feel ignored/ghosted as well. Why does it always take so many posts by an OP to finally get to the crux of the matter?! Dating several people, new BFF and in a self-proclaimed "all about me" phase of life, no wonder the BFF thinks OP ghosted her.
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Post by leannec on Apr 29, 2020 20:11:25 GMT
You said you never hear from her. Are you reaching out to her to check on how she is? Friendship is a two way street. Thanks for all of your advice ... I'm listening ... I have been reaching out to her ... she is reluctant to text with me for long at any given time ... I don't know what it is ... obviously we are at different places in life ... she is married without kids ... I am single, separated and dating ... total opposites ...
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