Olan
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Post by Olan on Jun 18, 2020 19:33:13 GMT
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Post by sasha on Jun 18, 2020 19:36:12 GMT
Thanks for sharing!
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Post by questioning on Jun 18, 2020 19:51:53 GMT
First person accounts recorded in 1930's....
I know my grandparents (born in 1910s) knew former slaves. It's jaw dropping to remember it's so recent.
Thank you for sharing, I can't say I am eager to read but I know it will be worthwhile.
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Post by freeatlast on Jun 19, 2020 0:10:27 GMT
Thank you for sharing this. I will be reading it.
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Jun 19, 2020 0:21:06 GMT
Thanks for posting this.
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Post by peabay on Jun 19, 2020 0:36:05 GMT
First person accounts recorded in 1930's.... I know my grandparents (born in 1910s) knew former slaves. It's jaw dropping to remember it's so recent. Thank you for sharing, I can't say I am eager to read but I know it will be worthwhile. My dad remembered going to parades when he was a kid (he was born in 1938) and seeing Civil War vets participating (obviously not marching!) I mean, they were really old but they were alive in my dad's lifetime, which is amazing to me. |
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Post by peasapie on Jun 19, 2020 0:41:25 GMT
These are recordings on a Nightline from 2011. I believe these voices are some of the same individuals whose memories are recorded in Olan's post. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWqVMNUawso |
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 19, 2020 0:50:18 GMT
I just dug around a little in there from your link, and it an amazing archive. There isn't any substitute for reading first-person narratives.
It would be a great project, for those of us who are possibly homeschooling older kids this coming year, to have them write a paper using those archives -- train kids to be historians by using primary source materials.
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Post by questioning on Jun 19, 2020 20:36:38 GMT
First person accounts recorded in 1930's.... I know my grandparents (born in 1910s) knew former slaves. It's jaw dropping to remember it's so recent. Thank you for sharing, I can't say I am eager to read but I know it will be worthwhile. My dad remembered going to parades when he was a kid (he was born in 1938) and seeing Civil War vets participating (obviously not marching!) I mean, they were really old but they were alive in my dad's lifetime, which is amazing to me. That is amazing! My parents grew up in states that weren't US states during the Civil War. I need to ask if they saw this in their childhood, they're just a few years older than your Dad. |
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 19, 2020 20:39:52 GMT
My great-grandparents were the first people in my family who were born free. My great-great grandparents were born slaves.
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Post by questioning on Jun 19, 2020 20:42:51 GMT
Dani-Mani@dani , that's staggering to think about.
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Post by Olan on Jun 19, 2020 20:44:04 GMT
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 19, 2020 21:31:16 GMT
Every black experience is different. “Born slaves” is how they personally chose to tell their story. Have a good day. |
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Post by Olan on Jun 19, 2020 21:40:53 GMT
Every black experience is different. “Born slaves” is how they personally chose to tell their story. Have a good day. You don’t have to push back or act like someone set out to offend or argue with you. You are an educator and a descendant of enslaved Africans take the information and do with it whatever you choose. We know that everyone has a personal account or an experience that will be different from the next.... that still doesn’t change the fact that none of our ancestors were born. It’s information. Goodness www.chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-column-slave-enslaved-language-people-first-debate-zorn-20190906-audknctayrarfijimpz6uk7hvy-story.htmlI was 16 paragraphs into the powerful opening essay of The New York Times’ recent 1619 Project on the 400th anniversary of chattel slavery in the United States when I realized author Nikole Hannah-Jones had studiously avoided using the term “slave.” In its place she deployed variations on “enslaved,” as in the passage where she noted that the U.S. Constitution “prohibited the federal government from intervening to end the importation of enslaved Africans for a term of 20 years, allowed Congress to mobilize the militia to put down insurrections by the enslaved and forced states that had outlawed slavery to turn over enslaved people who had run away seeking refuge.” |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 19, 2020 21:41:43 GMT
I imagine Dani-Mani is on the younger end of this group as many would have been a whole generation closer. Slavery really was not that long ago. We just have a high capacity for denial and choose to emphasize the prettier part of their history. ****said by a woman who's relatives did not own slaves as they were either poor Irishman who immigrated late or in New Mexico when all this was happening with their own issues. |
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 19, 2020 21:43:31 GMT
Every black experience is different. “Born slaves” is how they personally chose to tell their story. Have a good day. You don’t have to push back or act like someone set out to offend or argue with you. You are an educator and a descendant of enslaved Africans take the information and do with it whatever you choose. We know that everyone has a personal account or an experience that will be different from the next.... that still doesn’t change the fact that none of our ancestors were born slaves. You don’t have to push back or act like someone set out to argue with you. It’s information. Goodness Ok thanks. |
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Post by Olan on Jun 19, 2020 21:51:39 GMT
You don’t have to push back or act like someone set out to offend or argue with you. You are an educator and a descendant of enslaved Africans take the information and do with it whatever you choose. We know that everyone has a personal account or an experience that will be different from the next.... that still doesn’t change the fact that none of our ancestors were born slaves. You don’t have to push back or act like someone set out to argue with you. It’s information. Goodness Ok thanks. You’re welcome. Note I didn’t quote you. And the thread I started is titled Enslaved African narratives for a reason. The link provided information EVERY reader could look over and decide hmmm do I want to continue calling other human beings slaves or do I change the way that I think and make this simple adjustment. Many peas are educators like you. Being resistant to information is never a good look. |
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 19, 2020 21:55:49 GMT
You’re welcome. Note I didn’t quote you. And the thread I started is titled Enslaved African narratives for a reason. The link provided information EVERY reader could look over and decide hmmm do I want to continue calling other human beings slaves or do I change the way that I think and make this simple adjustment. Many peas are educators like you. Being resistant to information is never a good look. My family has members that were born slaves. That’s the language we and they choose/chose to use. From their own personal narratives. Again, thanks and have a good day. |
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Post by Olan on Jun 19, 2020 21:57:50 GMT
You’re welcome. Note I didn’t quote you. And the thread I started is titled Enslaved African narratives for a reason. The link provided information EVERY reader could look over and decide hmmm do I want to continue calling other human beings slaves or do I change the way that I think and make this simple adjustment. Many peas are educators like you. Being resistant to information is never a good look. My family has members that were born slaves. That’s the language we and they choose/chose to use. From their own personal narratives. Again, thanks and have a good day. Girl bye. From me and our ancestors who weren’t born slaves. |
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Post by sasha on Jun 20, 2020 2:13:34 GMT
I read the link and appreciate you sharing this. |
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Post by Olan on Jun 20, 2020 18:24:21 GMT
I read the link and appreciate you sharing this. No problem. Thank you for being receptive to new information. When historians found some trap door or hidden space at T. Jefferson’s plantation there was a renewed talk of why referring to Sally Hemmings as a mistress was no longer okay. I don’t recall when it was explained to me that enslaved Africans vs slaves was the most respectful way to refer to my ancestors but it was definitely in the last five years. I was on a date and the gentleman corrected me and explained everyone is born free. Imagine the implications of believing God put you on this Earth to be a slave. Even if our ancestors died with that belief we can honor them by respectfully speaking of them just like everyone else honors their ancestors. Many of which aren’t even deserving of honor but that’s a whole nother discussion. When you know better you do better. In the last few weeks I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard someone say “I didn’t learn that in school”, it feels like the same number of times someone here has been resistant to hearing about what they didn’t learn in school. |
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Post by sasha on Jun 20, 2020 18:43:36 GMT
I read the link and appreciate you sharing this. No problem. Thank you for being receptive to new information. When historians found some trap door or hidden space at T. Jefferson’s plantation there was a renewed talk of why referring to Sally Hemmings as a mistress was no longer okay. I don’t recall when it was explained to me that enslaved Africans vs slaves was the most respectful way to refer to my ancestors but it was definitely in the last five years. I was on a date and the gentleman corrected me and explained everyone is born free. Imagine the implications of believing God put you on this Earth to be a slave. Even if our ancestors died with that belief we can honor them by respectfully speaking of them just like everyone else honors their ancestors. Many of which aren’t even deserving of honor but that’s a whole nother discussion. When you know better you do better. In the last few weeks I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard someone say “I didn’t learn that in school”, it feels like the same number of times someone here has been resistant to hearing about what they didn’t learn in school. I like that comment: "When you know better you do better." I'm a work in progress at my old age, so I apologize in advance for dumb things I say here. Call me out whenever I do! |
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Post by katybee on Jun 20, 2020 18:51:29 GMT
So grateful these have been preserved. Thank-you for sharing!
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