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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2020 16:16:34 GMT
'Nother ETA: I think it's ridiculous to quibble over a term that doesn't even have a universal definition. Maybe focus on the facts instead. It's up to you. ETA: I've been informed that it's not OK to say that Houston is on lockdown because the SIP isn't legally enforceable, because our governor has said localities can't enforce it. Well, our city and county executives are telling people to stay home because our hospitals are overloaded with COVID patients, and responsible people are doing just that. It's not our local leadership's fault that our governor is a moron who has hamstrung them in this regard. Ignorant, selfish jackasses may go out and continue to carouse, but since I don't know any of those personally, I don't think they count. Decent people in Houston are under lockdown right now per local order. My title stands. www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/harris-county-hidalgo-threat-level-stay-at-home-15368478.phpAlso, the governor is shutting down all bars and rafting/tubing operations (basically floating bars) and taking restaurants back to 50% capacity. Many in Houston have already re-closed their dining rooms due to employees testing positive and/or losing money on opening the dining room at a low capacity. Yay. Thanks to all the folks who just couldn’t manage to keep that mask on, and the bar and restaurant owners who flouted state and local authorities by operating at full capacity or more. Thanks to you, the whole summer is ruined! And even more people will die! Freedom! Yay! |
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Post by peano on Jun 26, 2020 16:19:48 GMT
I’m so sorry for people who live in the states with exploding rates and who have been trying to do the caring and responsible things to avert the virus. I would be out of my mind with frustration.
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Post by jennifercw on Jun 26, 2020 16:21:15 GMT
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/harris-county-hidalgo-threat-level-stay-at-home-15368478.phpAlso, the governor is shutting down all bars and rafting/tubing operations (basically floating bars) and taking restaurants back to 50% capacity. Many in Houston have already re-closed their dining rooms due to employees testing positive and/or losing money on opening the dining room at a low capacity. Yay. Thanks to all the folks who just couldn’t manage to keep that mask on, and the bar and restaurant owners who flouted state and local authorities by operating at full capacity or more. Thanks to you, the whole summer is ruined! And even more people will die! Freedom! Yay! I have a feeling this is where most states are headed. Everyone wearing a mask is such a simple thing. I just don't get it... |
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Post by cmpeter on Jun 26, 2020 16:22:53 GMT
I’m surprised they aren’t banning gatherings of up to 100. We can only gather in groups of 5 or less here in WA.
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Post by oh yvonne on Jun 26, 2020 16:23:51 GMT
oh my gosh. Ugh, this is so so bad. I'm sorry Merge. I'm feeling like we here in So Cal will be back on full lockdown again soon. I see a lot of non mask wearing people now and definitely lots of non mask wearers at the protests recently. www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-23/lapd-coronavirus-cases-spike-adding-to-debate-over-role-of-protests-in-spreadfrom the LA Times "JUNE 23, 20204:57 PM Coronavirus infections among Los Angeles police officers spiked in recent weeks, reflecting a broader increase in cases regionally and raising fresh questions about the role of protests in the spread. Police officials have said that officers were exposed on skirmish lines as they worked to disperse screaming crowds. Protesters say officers recklessly arrested people en masse without wearing masks, exposing not just themselves but others. In the last week, positive cases within the LAPD workforce jumped from 170 to 206, Chief Michel Moore told the civilian Police Commission on Tuesday. “This was a 21% increase and is about twice the rate of our historic rate of change over the history of the pandemic,” he said." Stupidity all around. We are doomed. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 26, 2020 16:24:18 GMT
I have a feeling this is where most states are headed. Everyone wearing a mask is such a simple thing. I just don't get it... none of the governors ever read up on the 1918 flu pandemic, I guess... if AZ doesn't go that way, too, they probably SHOULD. I just LOVE living in an 'everyone is out for themselves, and you can all go f*ck yourslves- I don't care what happens to YOU' kind of place! /s |
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Post by MichyM on Jun 26, 2020 16:25:43 GMT
After seeing the news last night I was really surprised that seemingly the situation in Houston wasn’t being handled at all. I truly hope things can get under control (and stay there) soon.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jun 26, 2020 16:28:00 GMT
IL is open starting today for limited indoor dining, but masks must be worn if you cannot maintain 6' distance.
I think our Governor has taken a lot of slack over all of this in addition to the Mayor of Chicago. All I can tell you is that it's working. Time will tell what happens with all of this opening again.
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 26, 2020 16:31:36 GMT
I’m surprised they aren’t banning gatherings of up to 100. We can only gather in groups of 5 or less here in WA. I'm seeing my parents this weekend - they are coming to stay. We've all been staying at home. Doing pick up where possible, wearing masks and taking super care if we do have to go into a building. Not seeing outside people. But it's still nerve racking. We aren't going to hug/kiss or touch. But I'm excited though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 16:42:14 GMT
oh my gosh. Ugh, this is so so bad. I'm sorry Merge. I'm feeling like we here in So Cal will be back on full lockdown again soon. I see a lot of non mask wearing people now and definitely lots of non mask wearers at the protests recently. www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-23/lapd-coronavirus-cases-spike-adding-to-debate-over-role-of-protests-in-spreadfrom the LA Times "JUNE 23, 20204:57 PM Coronavirus infections among Los Angeles police officers spiked in recent weeks, reflecting a broader increase in cases regionally and raising fresh questions about the role of protests in the spread. Police officials have said that officers were exposed on skirmish lines as they worked to disperse screaming crowds. Protesters say officers recklessly arrested people en masse without wearing masks, exposing not just themselves but others. In the last week, positive cases within the LAPD workforce jumped from 170 to 206, Chief Michel Moore told the civilian Police Commission on Tuesday. “This was a 21% increase and is about twice the rate of our historic rate of change over the history of the pandemic,” he said." Stupidity all around. We are doomed. I fear a revolution if Newsom shuts us down again. I do wish there were stricter policies. But it sucks for those of us who do follow the policies. |
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Post by smartypants71 on Jun 26, 2020 16:49:55 GMT
It's so frustrating!!!! How hard is it to wear a f&*ing mask! My house alarm went off in the middle of the night this week (fortunately a false alarm) and the police were dispatched. Neither police officer was wearing a mask.
I had to leave my house on Tuesday for a dr appointment, and this lady got all butthurt because i wouldn't let her in the elevator with me without a mask on.
A mask store just popped up by my house, so I think I'm going to go and buy a bunch and just start handing them out to people. That should go over well LOL!
At this point, the only places I'm going are curbside pickups at HEB and the liquor store.
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Post by Gravity on Jun 26, 2020 17:00:13 GMT
I’m surprised they aren’t banning gatherings of up to 100. We can only gather in groups of 5 or less here in WA. Because the idiots in Austin don’t want it used against them to force voting by mail. They will tell us it’s okay to wait in line for hours with a bunch of strangers because the crowd size is within their guidelines. |
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jun 26, 2020 17:02:01 GMT
@merge I am with you. Selfish people ruined it for us. I wish there was a national response/policy with a qualified leader for this whole pandemic. Leaving it up to the states has sadly been a disaster. I trust my local mayor/county leaders (Turner and Hidalgo) to do the right things more than I trust Abbott. They never should have opened bars or expanded restaurant capacity. They started re-opening and never saw a curve down but ignored it. So much for how the phases were defined. cmpeter - Gatherings of over 100 have to approved by local authority or some such like that. Basically you won't be able to have a big wedding or an even like that, but given that some family in Dallas had a small birthday party and 18 people got infected, I don't see how 100 is the magic number. |
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Post by sam9 on Jun 26, 2020 17:15:13 GMT
If restaurants are still allowed to operate at 50% capacity, how is this considered going back to lockdown? For us, lockdown was nothing opened except essential businesses.
Our restaurants reopened here on Monday and I thought I would be okay with dining out until I saw the set up of my favourite restaurant on Facebook. All tables are separated with plexi glass and I realized that it would feel like being in a little cell. I would rather stay home than pay for that experience. I’m definitely not ready to be out and about. Outdoor baseball is my limit at the moment, staying as far away as possible from others.
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Post by yivit on Jun 26, 2020 17:17:45 GMT
If restaurants are still allowed to operate at 50% capacity, how is this considered going back to lockdown? For us, lockdown was nothing opened except essential businesses. Our restaurants reopened here on Monday and I thought I would be okay with dining out until I saw the set up of my favourite restaurant on Facebook. All tables are separated with plexi glass and I realized that it would feel like being in a little cell. I would rather stay home than pay for that experience. I’m definitely not ready to be out and about. Outdoor baseball is my limit at the moment, staying as far away as possible from others. We were at 75% and expanded table seating from 6 up to 10 per table. |
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Post by hop2 on Jun 26, 2020 17:18:43 GMT
And Pence is onTV saying how great a place we are in now - so fantastic.
Yay us we only killed 120,000+ instead of 2 million. All because we made every state fend for themselves. yay us. The cases are only growing because of testing. ( lets just ignore the hospitals that are AT icu capacity )
Seriously stop with the gaslighting
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 26, 2020 17:20:21 GMT
Feeling really glad to live in Illinois right now. Our governor is taking a lot of heat, but what he did is working. 🤷🏼♀️
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Post by janeliz on Jun 26, 2020 17:27:56 GMT
I hope our state will follow suit, but I won’t hold my breath. Too many people are operating as though things are back to normal. It’s like Memorial Day arrived and POOF—the virus disappeared.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 26, 2020 17:34:21 GMT
Is Houston going back into lockdown?
Doesn’t the article say judges lack the authority to issue any new SIP orders?
I’m curious how you came to the title of the thread.
It certainly is confusing in Texas right now. The governor denies counties the authority to do much. Counties can order businesses to require customers to wear masks, but can’t directly require people to wear masks. Cities refuse to enforce the county orders. No one knows what’s happening.
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2020 17:44:55 GMT
Is Houston going back into lockdown? Doesn’t the article say judges lack the authority to issue any new SIP orders? I’m curious how you came to the title of the thread. It certainly is confusing in Texas right now. The governor denies counties the authority to do much. Counties can order businesses to require customers to wear masks, but can’t directly require people to wear masks. Cities refuse to enforce the county orders. No one knows what’s happening. Our responsible city and county leadership are recommending lockdown, which is the most they can do given the idiots running the show in Austin. Responsible people who care about others will be following the recommendation. Our hospitals are filling up and there are staffing shortages everywhere. Regardless of what the governor says, many restaurants here are choosing to close their dining rooms as I said in my OP. I would bet we’ll see small retail doing the same. |
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Post by myshelly on Jun 26, 2020 17:52:28 GMT
Is Houston going back into lockdown? Doesn’t the article say judges lack the authority to issue any new SIP orders? I’m curious how you came to the title of the thread. It certainly is confusing in Texas right now. The governor denies counties the authority to do much. Counties can order businesses to require customers to wear masks, but can’t directly require people to wear masks. Cities refuse to enforce the county orders. No one knows what’s happening. Our responsible city and county leadership are recommending lockdown, which is the most they can do given the idiots running the show in Austin. Responsible people who care about others will be following the recommendation. Our hospitals are filling up and there are staffing shortages everywhere. Regardless of what the governor says, many restaurants here are choosing to close their dining rooms as I said in my OP. I would bet we’ll see small retail doing the same. Dallas has the threat level thing by the county judge, too, and no one pays attention to it. I guess I just don’t consider it lockdown if there isn’t actually an enforceable order or anything. It’s just a recommendation. |
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2020 17:54:00 GMT
If restaurants are still allowed to operate at 50% capacity, how is this considered going back to lockdown? For us, lockdown was nothing opened except essential businesses. Our restaurants reopened here on Monday and I thought I would be okay with dining out until I saw the set up of my favourite restaurant on Facebook. All tables are separated with plexi glass and I realized that it would feel like being in a little cell. I would rather stay home than pay for that experience. I’m definitely not ready to be out and about. Outdoor baseball is my limit at the moment, staying as far away as possible from others. The state is still allowing them to operate that way. The city/county are saying stay home and don't eat out even if the restaurant is open. Our Republican governor has limited what the local leadership can enforce because they're Democrats. |
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2020 17:54:35 GMT
Our responsible city and county leadership are recommending lockdown, which is the most they can do given the idiots running the show in Austin. Responsible people who care about others will be following the recommendation. Our hospitals are filling up and there are staffing shortages everywhere. Regardless of what the governor says, many restaurants here are choosing to close their dining rooms as I said in my OP. I would bet we’ll see small retail doing the same. Dallas has the threat level thing by the county judge, too, and no one pays attention to it. I guess I just don’t consider it lockdown if there isn’t actually an enforceable order or anything. It’s just a recommendation. No, I'm sure you wouldn't pay any attention to it at all. |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 26, 2020 17:54:48 GMT
It’s like Memorial Day arrived and POOF—the virus disappeared. well, you know- hot weather, and all. That certainly doesn't explain why the AZ desert has rising #s along WITH the rising temps, though, but hey-- let's just ignore that. Kind of like if we don't do testing we must not have new cases!! |
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Post by myshelly on Jun 26, 2020 17:56:56 GMT
Dallas has the threat level thing by the county judge, too, and no one pays attention to it. I guess I just don’t consider it lockdown if there isn’t actually an enforceable order or anything. It’s just a recommendation. No, I'm sure you wouldn't pay any attention to it at all. My issue is just with the terminology. Houston can’t go on lockdown. Houston can’t order a SIP. |
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2020 18:12:46 GMT
No, I'm sure you wouldn't pay any attention to it at all. My issue is just with the terminology. Houston can’t go on lockdown. Houston can’t order a SIP. For those of us who are being responsible in following it, the semantics make no difference at all. The effect is the same. My family is locked down just like we were in March. For those who are determined to see how much they can get away with legally, you're right - Houston can't force you to stay home right now. Party on. |
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Post by kibblesandbits on Jun 26, 2020 18:17:28 GMT
My issue is just with the terminology. Houston can’t go on lockdown. Houston can’t order a SIP. For those of us who are being responsible in following it, the semantics make no difference at all. The effect is the same. My family is locked down just like we were in March. For those who are determined to see how much they can get away with legally, you're right - Houston can't force you to stay home right now. Party on. You're being deliberately rude. She's questioning the semantics and the legal obligations. No where did she say she was out partying away. Be better. |
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Post by myshelly on Jun 26, 2020 18:27:46 GMT
My issue is just with the terminology. Houston can’t go on lockdown. Houston can’t order a SIP. For those of us who are being responsible in following it, the semantics make no difference at all. The effect is the same. My family is locked down just like we were in March. For those who are determined to see how much they can get away with legally, you're right - Houston can't force you to stay home right now. Party on. I still think it makes your thread title inaccurate. Houston isn’t going on lockdown. I don’t think Houston is that different from Dallas. If stuff is open, people are going to go. |
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Post by whipea on Jun 26, 2020 18:28:18 GMT
I think some counties in Florida will be stepping back to at the minimum level 1. In reality, with the horrendous numbers, all semantics and legality aside, we should be SIP. It is common sense, but people "living their lives" hanging with friends, going to Universal Studios and getting manicures takes precedent. So here we are-again.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 26, 2020 18:28:53 GMT
For those of us who are being responsible in following it, the semantics make no difference at all. The effect is the same. My family is locked down just like we were in March. For those who are determined to see how much they can get away with legally, you're right - Houston can't force you to stay home right now. Party on. You're being deliberately rude. She's questioning the semantics and the legal obligations. No where did she say she was out partying away. Be better. I’m also just clarifying for people in other parts of the country who aren’t really paying attention to Texas politics (because why would they). The fact of the matter is no, Houston is not on lockdown. |
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