iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Aug 31, 2020 15:38:37 GMT
I love to look at floor plans and often have them show up in my Pinterest feed. I was looking at this one and noticed the secondary bathroom is odd. The toilet is in a totally separate room from the rest of the bathroom. Not like a toilet closet, but it's own room and it doesn't have a sink. So you'd have to open the door without washing your hands and the potentially open up another door to do so. It appears to be an Australian floor plan. I've never seen anything like this in the U.S. Toilet closets in the master bath yes, but not secondary bathrooms, especially those that might be used by guests. www.katrinaleechambers.com/floor-plan-friday-study-home-cinema-activity-room-large-undercover-alfresco-area/ |
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pancakes
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Post by pancakes on Aug 31, 2020 15:40:30 GMT
Is it possible this was just the only way they could add a second bathroom without a lot of headache?
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Aug 31, 2020 15:43:35 GMT
Is it possible this was just the only way they could add a second bathroom without a lot of headache? I don't think this is her house. Just a plan she found online for sale and was sharing as she's interested in floor plans. It looks like she does a weekly Floor Plan post. |
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Post by pancakes on Aug 31, 2020 15:46:22 GMT
Is it possible this was just the only way they could add a second bathroom without a lot of headache? I don't think this is her house. Just a plan she found online for sale and was sharing as she's interested in floor plans. It looks like she does a weekly Floor Plan post. Right — I just meant since that house was on the market, it’s possible they added a second bath this way to increase the value of their house without doing a big reno. Or maybe they lived with it this way for awhile but didn’t want to spend a lot of money on a better layout for the bathroom. It just looks like they couldn’t have fit the toilet in the bathroom, even if they added a small wall/moved the door of the bathroom. Or maybe moving the door to line up with the wall of the laundry room didn’t work out structurally. |
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Post by manda on Aug 31, 2020 15:46:36 GMT
Do they use a bidet instead of what we have in the US. And you can always step to a sink if necessary.
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Post by katlady on Aug 31, 2020 15:48:51 GMT
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craftykitten
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Post by craftykitten on Aug 31, 2020 15:49:57 GMT
Its very common in the UK, my MIL has the same. I guess its a relic from a time when toilets were outdoors, and then they had to move them inside? Her house is quite old. There wouldn't be any other way to have it laid out. Plus it means you can have a bath without anyone hammering on the door because they need a poo!
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Belle
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Post by Belle on Aug 31, 2020 15:56:16 GMT
When I lived in Japan as an exchange student, our apartment had a separate toilet "room" and there was nothing else in the room. Across the hallway was the "bathroom" which was a room with a sink and then adjacent to that was a tub. The apartment only had one toilet, sink and tub.
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Post by Linda on Aug 31, 2020 15:57:55 GMT
growing up overseas, there was always a sink in the bedrooms and then a separate room with a toilet and another separate room with a bathtub.
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Post by gar on Aug 31, 2020 16:06:39 GMT
As craftykitten said, it used to be very common in the UK although not these days. I can remember my Nan's house having them separate. Things change  |
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 31, 2020 16:18:17 GMT
And I have a question, what is an alfresco room? Like an outdoor patio?
And ENS room?
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Post by sueg on Aug 31, 2020 16:20:07 GMT
And I have a question, what is an alfresco room? Like an outdoor patio? And ENS room? An alfresco room would be an outdoor area - it means 'in the fresh air' basically. ENS is short for En Suite |
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Aug 31, 2020 17:20:29 GMT
As some others said, a tiny room with only a toilet in was common 50 years ago in the UK. Granma and Grandad had one. It was very dark, because the cistern was mounted up on the external wall for added water pressure, with a chain that you pulled to flush it, hence the old-fashioned term "pull the chain" for flush the loo. The window was a tiny thing above the cistern and was kept slightly open. There was no heating or other ventilation, and it was always perishing cold and slightly damp in there with lots of spiders, like an outside toilet. You didn't linger! You had to go into the bathroom to wash your hands.
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Post by pjaye on Aug 31, 2020 17:25:21 GMT
It used to be the standard way in Australia. Growing up the toilet was always in a separate room and there was never a sink in there. There's 3 bedrooms of people who will use that toilet and doing it this way means one person can use the toilet while another is in the bathroom having a shower etc. In these cases the laundry is usually on the other side, so if someone is in the bathroom, then the person who used the toilet can go and wash their hands in the laundry instead. It's still the same in my mother's house (separate toilet between the bathroom and the laundry) and her house is only 15 years old. Obviously it wasn't that lethal as millions of us survived just fine  Now it is much more common to have a "powder room" which is a toilet with a sink, or to have the toilet in the main bathroom. Do they use a bidet instead of what we have in the US Nope, very rare to have a bidet here. It just looks like they couldn’t have fit the toilet in the bathroom Again, no - it would have be designed that way deliberately because that's what most people did. It's only started to change over the last few years in new builds & renovations. |
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Post by lisacharlotte on Aug 31, 2020 17:27:57 GMT
It wouldn’t surprise me in an old house. Most houses in my neighborhood are in the 100 year old range and it’s not uncommon to find a 1/2 bath with a toilet and teeny tiny sink for handwashing. However, this looks like a modern new build, so yeah, weird.
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Post by stormycat on Aug 31, 2020 17:32:00 GMT
My house is brand new and my master bath is set up like this. The toilet is in a tiny room with a door inside the bigger part of the bathroom with my sinks and shower.
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Post by gar on Aug 31, 2020 18:21:32 GMT
Obviously it wasn't that lethal as millions of us survived just fine Indeed - imagine!  |
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Post by Delta Dawn on Aug 31, 2020 18:31:59 GMT
My old rickety apartment had a toilet room with a sink in the toilet then you open the door and there was another sink. It was very private! |
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Post by maryland on Aug 31, 2020 18:36:13 GMT
My house is brand new and my master bath is set up like this. The toilet is in a tiny room with a door inside the bigger part of the bathroom with my sinks and shower. Our old house was built in 2008 and we had a very large master bathroom and inside the bathroom was a separate room for a toilet and it was small, no sink. I didn't like it because the room was so small. But only one of us was in the bathroom at a time, so the bathroom doors were shut and we would leave the toilet room door open so we didn't have to touch it before washing hands. So it really wasn't an issue since we always closed the bathroom doors. |
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Post by Anita on Aug 31, 2020 18:36:24 GMT
My house is brand new and my master bath is set up like this. The toilet is in a tiny room with a door inside the bigger part of the bathroom with my sinks and shower. That's the way my master bath is. This house is about 20 years old. |
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 31, 2020 19:05:38 GMT
A lot of Belgium houses are like that. If anyone remembers the farmhouse that we almost got—that house was like this. Sinks in the bedrooms, a room for the shower, a room for the toilet, and another room for the sink and bathtub. Odd, because the house was newly renovated and there was plenty of room for a toilet and shower in the room with a sink. I guess that’s just the way it was. I’m still sad about not getting that farmhouse, especially since we are home all the time now!
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Post by gar on Aug 31, 2020 19:16:16 GMT
It's handy that 2 people can use facilities at once.
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Post by ghislaine on Aug 31, 2020 19:27:54 GMT
France and Germany also have houses with a "water closet" set up this way. Sometimes there's a tiny sink but not always.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 19:35:34 GMT
Quite a few Victorian homes I’ve seen have this type of set up. You’ll see them listed as having 1/4 bath vs 1/2 bath which has a sink.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Aug 31, 2020 19:38:00 GMT
I don’t know if it’s exclusively Australian, but yes, it’s very common there.
And I miss it! 😅
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Post by melanieg on Aug 31, 2020 21:32:09 GMT
That was very common in older Victorian houses and through Europe from my experience.
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Post by AllieC on Aug 31, 2020 23:22:14 GMT
It is pretty much the norm in Australia to have it this way and I've never lived in a house in my 54 years with a toilet in the main bathroom. We built last year and set it up this way. The main bathroom is right next door. As pjaye said we survived just fine. |
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Post by AllieC on Aug 31, 2020 23:23:59 GMT
I don't think this is her house. Just a plan she found online for sale and was sharing as she's interested in floor plans. It looks like she does a weekly Floor Plan post. Right — I just meant since that house was on the market, it’s possible they added a second bath this way to increase the value of their house without doing a big reno. Or maybe they lived with it this way for awhile but didn’t want to spend a lot of money on a better layout for the bathroom. It just looks like they couldn’t have fit the toilet in the bathroom, even if they added a small wall/moved the door of the bathroom. Or maybe moving the door to line up with the wall of the laundry room didn’t work out structurally. No to all of this. The house designs in Australia have this set up very commonly. |
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Post by AussieMeg on Aug 31, 2020 23:48:07 GMT
It's very common here as other Aussies have already said. Every house I've ever lived in has a separate toilet "room" next to the actual bathroom. I've never thought anything of it, it's just the way it is. A lot of the brand new houses are now putting a wash basin in the toilet (note: when we say "toilet" we are referring to the room, not the actual thing you sit on). If I were going to build a new house I would put a basin in the toilet. As for the germ factor - again it's not something that ever crossed my mind. And we've all survived. And guess what - we don't foot flush either!  |
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Post by peaname on Sept 1, 2020 9:40:10 GMT
Interesting floor plan. I would like to live there for a few weeks and see how I like it.
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