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Post by scrapcat on Sept 3, 2020 15:46:17 GMT
Disappointed, but not surprised. There is always that "do as I say, not as I do." Just had the same with Philly mayor eating out at a restaurant in Maryland.
I see both sides, but she should err on the side of practice what you preach in this intense election season.
Also, jobs reports come out this week, so let's talk about hair!
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Post by pinklady on Sept 3, 2020 15:58:10 GMT
Exactly
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Sept 3, 2020 16:03:02 GMT
All of you saying "I give zero fucks" or "I just don't care"...
There are practically daily posts here filled with outrage that the average joe-blow isn't following the rules. But Nancy does it and who cares?
In most cases I can give the average joe-blow a pass with the ever changing rules and trying to keep up. But politicians, no pass. They are making the rules, they need to follow them too.
So since we (general we) peas don't give zero fucks about following the Covid rules, can we now stop all the daily posts and vents about others not following them?
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schizo319
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Post by schizo319 on Sept 3, 2020 16:04:31 GMT
I don't give two shits about Nancy Pelosi or her hair. The policy in my state is that stylist and client wear masks until the service is performed (which I would assume begins with hair washing) - at which point the client may remove his/her mask so that it doesn't impede the process.
I will say I was surprised that Nancy and other government leaders (didn't a democratic governor/mayor catch flack about having her hair done several months ago as well?) don't have access to a personal stylist who comes to their homes to perform their services, especially during this time. A hair-cut truck (or mobile barbershop) could make a killing right now.
I started cutting my own hair years ago because I get severe anxiety at the hair salon. I'm very thankful not to have that as another factor to consider during this pandemic.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Sept 3, 2020 16:06:58 GMT
How is this an elite response? There are so many people not following the mask rule and have a fit about wearing masks, that I really don't see this being an elite response. Exactly. Our freaking PRESIDENT doesn't wear a mask, so how is Pelosi not wearing one an "elite response" but Trump not wearing one, while making fun of people who do (Biden, for instance) is A f*ing OK???
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schizo319
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Post by schizo319 on Sept 3, 2020 16:15:23 GMT
All of you saying "I give zero fucks" or "I just don't care"... There are practically daily posts here filled with outrage that the average joe-blow isn't following the rules. But Nancy does it and who cares? In most cases I can give the average joe-blow a pass with the ever changing rules and trying to keep up. But politicians, no pass. They are making the rules, they need to follow them too. So since we (general we) peas don't give zero fucks about following the Covid rules, can we now stop all the daily posts and vents about others not following them? IF Nancy had been in a crowded salon, I wouldn't be saying that I give zero fucks. I have never cared and still do. not. care. what two consenting adults choose to do (in a hair salon, in a bedroom, or anywhere else). I DO care when some asshole refuses to wear a mask in a doctor's office full of elderly people and healthcare workers, I DO care when some jackass refuses to wear a mask in a grocery store with clerks who have no choice but to work in an enclosed building with everyone else's germs for 8+ hours a day. I DO care when a kid attends a graduation ceremony with thousands of other people while a positive COVID test is still pending. For the record, to the best of my knowledge, I haven't posted or vented about anyone not following the rules. My general attitude is that I choose to follow the rules but I can't control what anyone else does, no matter how irresponsible or ridiculous I think it is. I just don't get the outrage here - ooh a politician is a hypocrite - shocking - in other "news" water is wet.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 3, 2020 16:16:09 GMT
All of you saying "I give zero fucks" or "I just don't care"... There are practically daily posts here filled with outrage that the average joe-blow isn't following the rules. But Nancy does it and who cares? In most cases I can give the average joe-blow a pass with the ever changing rules and trying to keep up. But politicians, no pass. They are making the rules, they need to follow them too. So since we (general we) peas don't give zero fucks about following the Covid rules, can we now stop all the daily posts and vents about others not following them? Nancy was not in my face, not within 6 feet of me, not affecting me at all. I donβt care. If the stylist cared he or she should have said something. Some idiot at the place Iβm required to go to for work not wearing a mask affects me Iβll bitch about that. Some idiot at the grocery store where I have to get food ( we do not have pick up or delivery here ) Iβll bitch about that. It affects me. Nancy isnβt even my representative I have zero interest in caring. I have enough to care about in my world I do not need to care about that. She got her National dressing down over it, I do not need to spend any bandwidth in my brain on it. What are we going to do? Sheβs done in January anyway? If SF want to fine her so be it. Itβs their rules have at it. Itβs not like sheβs keeping 100βs of bills that affect me from being voted on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 16:21:35 GMT
We just had a post on here the other day from someone questioning the quarantine rules and everyone got all up in arms about how someone could possibly NOT know what is going on with Covid rules and safety these days. But yet we can (or should?) give our politicians a pass for saying they didn't know the rules or guidelines? THANK YOU! I agree 100%
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Sept 3, 2020 16:28:11 GMT
We just had a post on here the other day from someone questioning the quarantine rules and everyone got all up in arms about how someone could possibly NOT know what is going on with Covid rules and safety these days. But yet we can (or should?) give our politicians a pass for saying they didn't know the rules or guidelines? THANK YOU! I agree 100% I was one who I guess you can say was "up in arms about how someone could possibly NOT know what is going on" with COVID, but I am not giving ANY politician a pass for not wearing a mask. Not Pelosi, not Trump not any of them. And I wasn't up in arms that the poster didn't know the regulations. I was just incredulous that she said she didn't know asymptomatic people can spread COVID.
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Post by Skellinton on Sept 3, 2020 16:28:46 GMT
Iβve read two different news accounts about this...and Iβm still confused. Confused about this California policy/legality about the one customer inside a salon, etc and how it all played out. What I will say is that Iβve had my hair done a couple of times since May, and I did not remove my mask for hair washing as she did, so her assertion that βwho keeps a mask on for hair washing?β seems facile. I have had two haircuts since March as well. I kept my mask on because I was wearing the ear loop one. Normally I canβt wear that one because one ear wonβt keep the loops on, I normally wear one that goes around the back of my head. My salon has individual booths with a sink and everything in it, they are completely enclosed and allowed to be open, but there are strict rules which we all follow. People have to sign in, we have to call when we arrive because the front door is locked, we have to sanitize, etc. I frankly trust my hair dresser to follow the rules and explain them to me before I come in, which she seems to be doing. I donβt blame NP for getting a haircut following the rules outlined to her. I do think she is not handling it well, however. The calling it a set up seems like a Trump reaction and that does leave a bad taste in my mouth. I donβt think it is a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and it is frustrating that she is getting so much flake when the Republicans are blatantly flaunting their no mask wearing selves and holding rallies and meetings without masks all the freaking time.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 3, 2020 16:55:27 GMT
sad when all the GOP has is Nancy's hair.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 3, 2020 16:57:28 GMT
Iβm not giving her a pass, I said she was wrong, she should have known, but beyond that it literally doesnβt affect me.
If the Mayor or Governor want to fine her, well too bad Nancy, you get fined. But Iβm done worrying about it.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Sept 3, 2020 17:05:50 GMT
Isn't it ironic that bunker boy announces at his rallies that no masks are allowed, but has a hissy fit over a one on one encounter by Pelosi? Just another diversion, distraction and something that Fucker Carlson and Shithead Hannity can spew vitriol about. But it was fine for Ivanka to show up at the GM Tech Center yesterday without a mask. Apparently it is only an issue if you are a strong Democratic woman. Rather than obsessing over this minor issue, why not get an honest explanation about Bunker Boys' foot dropsy, stumbling while walking and rambling, incoherant and illogical speeches. Unfortunately, it's not a minor issue to the people losing their livelihoods because of the restrictions on their businesses. My granddaughter is a hair stylist in California, and the lady that owns the saloon she works at is not going to be able to reopen. She is going out of business--which means when the restrictions are lifted, my granddaughter still will not have a place to work. It's sad for a lot of people. This is just ONE of the services that is affected. You do realize that Nancy Pelosi doesn't make the rules for California businesses, right? And when people say this is a minor issue, I think they are referring to the "issue" of her going to the salon when it wasn't supposed to be open. Not that salon owners and stylists aren't suffering from closures. Personally, I'm along the lines of I don't have enough fucks to give for things like this. I just heard a little snippet on the news this morning so would need to read more, but it sounds like the stylist told her they were ok to be open inside. Maybe Nancy was unaware that the city had different requirements than the state and wrongly trusted the stylist. I am not sure. I do think the excuse for taking her mask off was stupid. But, I also think this stylist/salon is shady and definitely had poor intentions with their behavior. I would not trust them at all as a customer.
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Post by lisae on Sept 3, 2020 17:29:58 GMT
From what I know of this, she should have taken responsibility for knowing the local and state ordinances regarding reopenings. She let herself get setup by violating the local orders. She's a bit like the politician who gets caught with his pants down. If you don't want yourself all over the news doing something you shouldn't, don't do it.
Take responsibility, Nancy, and move on.
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Post by lindas on Sept 3, 2020 17:31:14 GMT
She was wrong for not wearing the mask but claiming she got set-up, Iβm calling bullshit on that one. I can only imagine what she paid for the service but Iβm guessing it was a hell of a lot more than you and I pay. When the stylist got the phone call for the appointment there was no way in hell he was going to say no to Nancy. Now that he got caught, and he definitely should have known the rules, heβs trying to throw it all back on the owner.
She doesnβt want to follow the mask requirements when she thinks no one will notice then fine, I donβt care but donβt get on TV and preach to me.
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Just T
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Post by Just T on Sept 3, 2020 17:33:20 GMT
sad when all the GOP has is Nancy's hair. Yep. Considering Trump has held multiple rallies with crowds of people unmasked. A teenaged Trump supporter went on a vigilante mission and killed 2 people. But yes, let them rake Pelosi over the coals for going into a salon that she was in by herself other than the stylist, without a mask.
I still think she should not have done that, but holy hell. What a bunch of hypocrites some people are.
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Post by sassyangel on Sept 3, 2020 17:37:01 GMT
I just don't really care. She shouldn't have done it and she should have known better. She's also not responsible for the rules in San Francisco, the severity of the virus or the business shutdowns. She was also clearly set up by a partisan with an axe to grind. That salon owner didn't have a problem with any of the other people her stylists allowed in for one on one sessions. We're approaching 200,000 people dead from the virus. No coherent national testing strategy. No coherent national strategy to support business owners. Millions of landlords told to go fuck themselves by the Trump administration and the CDC yesterday. You're telling me I'm supposed to be outraged that an 80 year old lady got her hair washed and dried in a closed salon? Okay. This. Not smart or right, but I canβt spend my outrage on this. Iβm also slightly annoyed that some people are weighing in on this, yet you never hear anything when this administration is doing something completely unconstitutional or outrageous - like defending vigilante killers and equally heinous things. ππ₯Ί
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Post by Laurie on Sept 3, 2020 17:44:38 GMT
She was wrong. Yet I don't give a shit over it. Can't wait to see what I am supposed to be outraged over tomorrow. Sick of politicians on both sides having the maturity and professionalism of a 2 year old. So many people on both sides of the aisle that need to grow the eff up.
Signed, A fed up voter that would like every single politician out of office
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Post by papersilly on Sept 3, 2020 17:50:11 GMT
sad when all the GOP has is Nancy's hair. Yep. Considering Trump has held multiple rallies with crowds of people unmasked. A teenaged Trump supporter went on a vigilante mission and killed 2 people. But yes, let them rake Pelosi over the coals for going into a salon that she was in by herself other than the stylist, without a mask.
I still think she should not have done that, but holy hell. What a bunch of hypocrites some people are.
she shouldn't have done it but she the salon owner wasn't sticking to regulations much either. the funny thing to me is that Nancy has a bob hair cut. why couldn't she have someone like her daughter cut and color her hair? i realize she's always in the public eye but a homemade haircut and color probably would have been better than this risky behavior. especially in a state our size where cases are still high.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 3, 2020 17:50:38 GMT
I just don't really care. She shouldn't have done it and she should have known better. She's also not responsible for the rules in San Francisco, the severity of the virus or the business shutdowns. She was also clearly set up by a partisan with an axe to grind. That salon owner didn't have a problem with any of the other people her stylists allowed in for one on one sessions. We're approaching 200,000 people dead from the virus. No coherent national testing strategy. No coherent national strategy to support business owners. Millions of landlords told to go fuck themselves by the Trump administration and the CDC yesterday. You're telling me I'm supposed to be outraged that an 80 year old lady got her hair washed and dried in a closed salon? Okay. This. βπ»I was wondering how she got an appt, but the article that I read wasnβt clear. This was a mistake on her part, but I can think of much bigger problems to be concerned about.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 3, 2020 18:09:27 GMT
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Post by *KAS* on Sept 3, 2020 18:09:38 GMT
Iβve been to the salon since they reopened here. I think it was irresponsible of her not to know the state guidelines for salons. I think her comment about not wearing a mask while getting her hair washed is ridiculous. I had no issues wearing my mask the entire time. Same here. Not allowed to take my mask off, and my person wasn't allowed to dry my hair (salon rule, not state rule)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2020 18:10:18 GMT
I say this as the person who hasnβt had anything done to my hair since 1/28/20 I had a scheduled appointment in March. No go, I have been SIP since. Well other then the long trip to the hospital and 2 very short trips to Aldi and required PT. My hair has not seen professional scissors since November. My hair has seen my scissors several times because I need to see!
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Sept 3, 2020 18:19:52 GMT
This is also a huge slap in the face to all the other salons, stylists and barbers in CA who have lost so much income.
At the very least the stylist should be fined, lose her license or whatever the consequences are in SF right now. If the salon owner also knew, same goes for her. They should of never accepted the appointment, but money and status obviously talks.
I have friends that are stylists in CA. After being shut down for months, they were finally allowed to reopen with some major precautions in place. Lots of time and money went into them being able to get clients back in their chairs. Then after just a few weeks, they got shut down again and told you can only cut hair outside in parking lots, but not inside. My friends live in the central valley with triple digit heat, so that was not happening. Plus not so easy to do color and rinse outside. I believe their county in CA just reopened this week to hair cutting again, so SF must still have stricter rules in place right now. I do know it is 100% masks required though because estheticians are still not allowed to work since that would require to take the mask off.
I'm guessing there are tons of wealthy people who can afford to have someone come to their home for a cut and style or they probably just have a private stylist full time already. I don't know if that skirts the rules or not in CA though.
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Post by Really Red on Sept 3, 2020 18:21:29 GMT
I agree a lot with what many people said on this thread.
I do think the owner was out to get her. I think that may be beside the point.
I do not think she needed to wear a mask in a closed salon.
I guess the biggest point is if the salon could never open to anyone ever. In that case, I think she should know her area's regulations. If salons can open privately (which they can here), then I don't understand what she did wrong. I would be fall-on-the-floor surprised if every member of congress who has to go in front of the camera didn't do the same thing.
ETA: Trump told every American to commit a felony yesterday and vote twice. I am hard-pressed to be upset about Pelosi.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Sept 3, 2020 18:28:36 GMT
Iβm also slightly annoyed that some people are weighing in on this, yet you never hear anything when this administration is doing something completely unconstitutional or outrageous - like defending vigilante killers and equally heinous things. ππ₯Ί If this is aimed at me, I work full time, so my time is limited and luckily I get to chose how I spend it. While I certainly do not have the time every single day to spend many, many hours on here, I did just happened to have extra time this morning while enjoying my coffee to comment. And now I'm having lunch and thought I would check back in. Commenting on this administration is a full time job that I just don't have the time to follow up on like a lot here do. Plus there are plenty weighing in on the current administration, so do you really need another?
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Post by sassyangel on Sept 3, 2020 18:31:40 GMT
Iβm also slightly annoyed that some people are weighing in on this, yet you never hear anything when this administration is doing something completely unconstitutional or outrageous - like defending vigilante killers and equally heinous things. ππ₯Ί If this is aimed at me, I work full time, so my time is limited and luckily I get to chose how I spend it. While I certainly do not have the time every single day to spend many, many hours on here, I did just happened to have extra time this morning while enjoying my coffee to comment. And not I'm having lunch and thought I would check back in. Commenting on this administration is a full time job that I just don't have the time to follow up on like a lot here do. Plus there are plenty weighing in on the current administration, so do you really need another? Itβs really a general observation, and honestly if I was pressed to name names - you wouldnβt have been one of them.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 3, 2020 18:44:12 GMT
I agree this looks bad. I think she should have kept her mask on and followed the rules, but... sad when all the GOP has is Nancy's hair. This is the real point, here. This is the criticism. From a lot of people who are indignant about having to wear a mask in the first place.
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Post by casii on Sept 3, 2020 18:49:04 GMT
And in more important news, Trump committed a felony yesterday by telling people to try to vote twice which is also a felony.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 18:50:25 GMT
The fact that Fox News is ramping this up when their starboy can't even wear a mask....is rich.
Expected of course.
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