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Post by katlady on Sept 3, 2020 19:25:07 GMT
The more I hear about this I am starting to lean towards that Pelosi was used, but not quite a setup. The salon owner encouraged her stylists to bring customers in one-on-one, in defiance of the orders. This brought in money for both of them. When the owner heard it was Pelosi, the owner decided to release the tape. Yes, Pelosi should have known better, but the owner is not blameless either. The owner was also defying state orders.
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Post by *KAS* on Sept 3, 2020 19:30:17 GMT
She should have worn the mask if that's the rules. I don't think anybody in Washington thinks the rules apply to them and it disgusts me. But I'd say the same thing about anybody from the Trump family too. It's an overall Washington problem....not a one party problem. I'm not losing any sleep over it, it just makes me roll my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 19:54:13 GMT
Meh...Pelosi could shoot a man on 5th Avenue and I'd still vote for Biden.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Sept 3, 2020 20:15:03 GMT
I don't give a crap. If the woman wants to get Covid by not wearing her mask as she keeps touting we should all do on National Television, that is absolutely her right. What I don't understand is why the shop allowed her in the shop to begin with. Quote from the SF.GOV site: "Personal care services can open outdoors Haircuts, nail, skincare, and massage services can operate outdoors, next to a licensed business. There must be at least 6 feet of space between customers who are getting a service". So they shouldn't have allowed her in. Period. I don't care who she is. If she used her "clout" and coerced them into opening for her, then she's in the wrong too. I'm in Washington and we have mandates we have to follow when we go to the salon. Personal Services businesses have a 5 page plan they must adhere to or risk being shut down. WA State Personal services My hair dresser sent me a text a few days before my appointment with all the "rules" we have to follow. I had to sign something saying I didn't hold them responsible should I contract the virus and that the document would also be used in case the hair dresser was infected (unknowingly) for contact tracing.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 3, 2020 20:37:26 GMT
I'm not even a little bit surprised. We've seen pretty clearly over and over again that people are outraged when others do something that they don't want to do and make excuses when it's something they/theirs want to do. I'm over it quite frankly.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 3, 2020 20:54:34 GMT
I don’t buy it. She should know the rules in her city. Her county had done if the strictest rules in the state snd has since the beginning. She is someone that keeps saying we should wear masks but then doesn’t when she really should. Yeah. She think she is above the rules. That said this wasn’t in a crowded space so it wasn’t like she was likely to spread anything to a lot of people.
I haven’t had my hair done since this started but will tomorrow and will be wearing a mask. Not sure of the specifics but i will be the only customer and only my colorist will be in the room it’s a large space and will follow her direction. I expect to wear a mask the majority of the time I’m there. I know she is following all the rules and is extra cautious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 21:09:47 GMT
People keep saying cut or color but the article that I read said that it was a blow out and I am pretty sure she said that she got her hair washed and blow dried when she talked about it on TV. I guess we don't have a lot of blowouts in the midwest or at least no one I know goes to a salon for that. Do people really not wash or blow dry their own hair?
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Post by maryannscraps on Sept 3, 2020 21:15:01 GMT
People keep saying cut or color but the article that I read said that it was a blow out and I am pretty sure she said that she got her hair washed and blow dried when she talked about it on TV. I guess we don't have a lot of blowouts in the midwest or at least no one I know goes to a salon for that. Do people really not wash or blow dry their own hair? It’s common around here. People go in once a week for a wash and blowout. When you don’t wash your hair every day it stays nice for days.
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Post by MichyM on Sept 3, 2020 21:19:00 GMT
Well, I only heard about it due to this thread so I just googled to get the "story" to understand what's what.
In this instance, democrat, repulican, martian, sea serpent. I seriously don't care one bit. It feels like a non-story. IMO is is much ado about (next to) nothing.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Sept 3, 2020 21:22:04 GMT
So, Pelosi's office called to make sure everything was being done according to the guidelines in California at the time, Pelosi only took her mask off at the shampoo bowl, AND the shop owner, from whom her stylist rents a chair, contacted Fox and spilled the beans on the Pelosi visit.
So, yes, Pelosi was, as Trump says, "taken." The shop said "come on in, everything is fine, we're following the rules" and then clipped one scene of her walking from the shampoo bowl back to her chair without a mask. Ironic Trump would go down that road, though, seeing as how as he's been Putin's lapdog for years (decades?), and has been fooled by Kim Jong-un since January 2017.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 21:57:51 GMT
She's being an idiot and a hypocrite.
Out of the house? Inside another building? MASK F(#$ING ON!!!
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Post by *KAS* on Sept 3, 2020 22:08:03 GMT
People keep saying cut or color but the article that I read said that it was a blow out and I am pretty sure she said that she got her hair washed and blow dried when she talked about it on TV. I guess we don't have a lot of blowouts in the midwest or at least no one I know goes to a salon for that. Do people really not wash or blow dry their own hair? Yep, best monthly subscription I ever paid for, pre-Covid. Google Dry Bar. (There’s others but that’s a national chain). Necessary? No. Amazing? Yes! I could get a blowout and it would last about 8 days. Awesome when I was traveling for work and didn’t have to pack all my hair stuff.
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Post by Merge on Sept 3, 2020 22:16:32 GMT
People keep saying cut or color but the article that I read said that it was a blow out and I am pretty sure she said that she got her hair washed and blow dried when she talked about it on TV. I guess we don't have a lot of blowouts in the midwest or at least no one I know goes to a salon for that. Do people really not wash or blow dry their own hair? It’s common around here. People go in once a week for a wash and blowout. When you don’t wash your hair every day it stays nice for days. Especially older ladies. She’s 80! Your hair is more fine and fragile at that age. Lots of older women get a weekly wash and style because their hair doesn’t stand up to daily washing and styling. I type this sitting alone in my salon, mask firmly on.
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Post by garcia5050 on Sept 3, 2020 22:43:19 GMT
I read an article that said the owner will now have to shut down - as she is now receiving death threats and will be forced to move. I hate that people 'go there' when outraged. Both parties definitely share some blame in this scenario. But in her attempt to 'get' Pelosi, the owner screwed herself. I am very OK with Pelosi's decision to not apologize.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 3, 2020 22:46:30 GMT
And I'll go on record as saying that based on what I'm seeing from tons of people in CA - the governor is way better off putting in place conservative, safe protocols and opening salons. Too many people, even relatively thoughtful people - will not go indefinitely without their hair appointments. I'm a layered, highlighter, so really have no dog in this fight as I go 6+ months in a typical year between appointments. But there's a ton of salons opening illegally and a ton of stylists visiting people's homes or operating out of their homes. It'd be safer to have good protocols than what's currently happening.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 3, 2020 23:03:25 GMT
In the matters if politics—it means nothing.
The salon should NOT have offered this to her. I feel that they are the ones who were wrong—she didn’t ask for special treatment, she didn’t beg them to take her—and I think that given what the salon did, they should suffer whatever repercussions.
NP (or her staff) Should have made themselves aware.
I find it so fucking hypocritically rich that the always lying, gaslighting press sec had this going on a continuous loop during her press briefing today.
Trump doesn’t wear a mask and encourages other to not wear a mask.
Pence and trump both went to hospitals and did not wear a mask.
Ted fucking Cruz went to the salon where the owner REFUSED to close and follow the mandates.
So fuck the republicans trying to drive this bus.
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Post by papersilly on Sept 4, 2020 0:48:12 GMT
I just watched the owner on TV trying to gather sympathy. Oh boo-boo.
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Post by lucyg on Sept 4, 2020 3:34:52 GMT
I hadn’t heard about this story until this thread. For sure I’ll be watching the local (SF) news tonight. So I don’t know all the details and I don’t care enough to go look them up. I will just say ... of course she should follow the rules. But this is so low on the priority list, I can’t even see it from here. Once we get rid of the guy who is trying to destroy democracy as we know it, then I can start worrying about Nancy Pelosi’s hair appointments. And the Trump supporters Pelosi haters who are being all self-righteous about it, please refer again to the story about the Texas hairdresser who got arrested for opening against local rules, the Republican majority in Austin lost their freakin’ minds and overrode the local rules, the “lady” involved made a fortune from her GoFundMe from the proud, mask-hating gun-toters, and Ted Cruz got his picture on the news for having his hair cut in her salon. And then please lay off of Nancy.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 4, 2020 3:51:42 GMT
Well...well...well!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 4, 2020 3:52:38 GMT
Why not just own it and apologize? As for the owner, she's obviously upset/stressed out about the prospect of losing her business. NP did take responsibility. And it appears that the owner lied.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 4, 2020 3:55:23 GMT
I see it as just another "Do as I say, not as I do" and it doesn't surprise me one bit. I feel like it makes it seem like masks really aren't THAT important when the ones that are forcing the "rules/mandates" on us are't abiding by them themselves. 80 year olds are in the top, high risk category. If that mask was really life or death, why would she ever take it off? I've also seen previous photo opps with her not social distancing (hard to take pics like that) and maskless standing next to non family members. So are masks important or not Nancy? We just had a post on here the other day from someone questioning the quarantine rules and everyone got all up in arms about how someone could possibly NOT know what is going on with Covid rules and safety these days. But yet we can (or should?) give our politicians a pass for saying they didn't know the rules or guidelines? It appears she only had her mask off for the time he was being shampooed and walking back to the chair. The reports say that she had her mask on the rest of the time.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 4, 2020 3:58:15 GMT
She was wrong for not wearing the mask but claiming she got set-up, I’m calling bullshit on that one. I can only imagine what she paid for the service but I’m guessing it was a hell of a lot more than you and I pay. When the stylist got the phone call for the appointment there was no way in hell he was going to say no to Nancy. Now that he got caught, and he definitely should have known the rules, he’s trying to throw it all back on the owner. She doesn’t want to follow the mask requirements when she thinks no one will notice then fine, I don’t care but don’t get on TV and preach to me.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 4, 2020 4:01:04 GMT
All of you saying "I give zero fucks" or "I just don't care"... There are practically daily posts here filled with outrage that the average joe-blow isn't following the rules. But Nancy does it and who cares? In most cases I can give the average joe-blow a pass with the ever changing rules and trying to keep up. But politicians, no pass. They are making the rules, they need to follow them too. So since we (general we) peas don't give zero fucks about following the Covid rules, can we now stop all the daily posts and vents about others not following them? Context. You really need context. Most of the other mask threads are talking about mask wearing in a large group not a one in one private scenario—one in which reported she did have her mask on with the exception of getting her hair washed. People should be wearing masks.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 4, 2020 4:06:51 GMT
Probably a set up, but at the very least she should have left her mask on.
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Post by peasapie on Sept 4, 2020 10:42:11 GMT
This is the best Republicans can drum up? Sorry - not news.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Sept 4, 2020 22:34:39 GMT
I don’t understand why she would take her mask off and walk through the store. I just had my hair colored and cut snd my mask was on the whole time. My glasses needed to come off but my mask was on.
While I don’t think there have been many outbreaks in salons I think the rules should apply to all especially someone telling others that they need to wear their masks.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Sept 5, 2020 1:37:24 GMT
People keep saying cut or color but the article that I read said that it was a blow out and I am pretty sure she said that she got her hair washed and blow dried when she talked about it on TV. I guess we don't have a lot of blowouts in the midwest or at least no one I know goes to a salon for that. Do people really not wash or blow dry their own hair? I had my last wash/blowout on March 13, the day before CA closed down salons. I usually went once a week. I have bad shoulders and have a difficult time blowdrying my long hair. It's an awesome luxury. I've had my hair colored once since February in the small window where California allowed salons to open sometime in July. I had to wear a mask the entire time, and the salon only had one person in at a time. Some California counties have allowed salons to reopen, but not mine. That being said, Nancy should absolutely have known the rules and she's being a dick saying she was set up (even if she was).
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Post by pixiechick on Sept 6, 2020 22:05:37 GMT
Apparently it is only an issue if you are a strong Democratic woman. Really the issue is when you lecture others about doing the right thing, lecture Trump about being a good leader, then flaunt the rules of the shut down yourself, when you think the public can't see your actions.
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Post by ntsf on Sept 6, 2020 22:31:29 GMT
the other thing is that the rules in SF have flipped flopped from day to day.. they announce in 2 days, you can get a haircut, then it changes to not. then it changes again.. and you can get a haircut down the road 5 miles. so there is the factor that it is very confusing, even if you live there and read the paper and follow the news.
it is a non story and why is the salon owner posting pictures? not good practice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 22:42:39 GMT
Having worked in SF until I retired I’ve been aware of Nancy Pelosi for a long time. There have been times over the years when she did something I thought was dumb and I would want to hit her on the side of her head with my purse metaphorically speaking. This is not one of those times.
Raise your hands if you know all the rules surrounding the opening of businesses? Especially when they keep changing like they do? I don’t. It’s the business’s responsibility to know and to let their customers know. And they do it by signs on their doors or through social media or directly contacting their customers. I mean think about it for a minute. One could drive themselves crazy trying to figure out the rules for each business they may visit. So it makes more sense to rely on that business to let you know if it’s open and what you need to do.
From CNN...
”But Hammill's comments acknowledged Pelosi and her staff had relied on the interpretation of someone at the salon about what was allowed by new city regulations -- that had just gone into effect Friday -- and that the person was incorrect.
"This business offered for the speaker to come in on Monday and told her they were allowed by the city to have one customer at a time in the business," Hammill said. "The speaker complied with the rules as presented to her by this establishment."
As far as wearing a mask. They only showed a snippet of the video and it showed her without the mask. If you look closely you could see the mask around her neck. So another question. Raise your hand if, in a salon getting your hair washed, you wear your mask. It seems to me there is no way of wearing a mask and not getting it wet while your hair is being washed. Considering the straps holding the mask on go over one’s ears.
Her office said the only time she wasn’t wearing a mask was when her hair was being washed. Should she have put it back on after the guy was done instead of waiting until she was settled in the chair? Maybe but that is just plain nitpicking.
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