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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 14:46:49 GMT
"In New York, the decisive moment came in March. In Arizona and other Sun Belt states, it struck as the spring turned to summer. In every state that has so far seen a large spike of COVID-19 cases, there has been a moment when the early signs of an uptick are detectable—but a monstrous outbreak is not yet assured. Can a state realize what’s happening, and stop a surge in time? Wisconsin is about to find out. In the past week, Wisconsin has crashed through its own coronavirus records, reporting more cases and more COVID-19 hospitalizations than it has at any time since the pandemic began, according to the COVID Tracking Project at The Atlantic. It now ranks among the top states in new cases per capita, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and it is reporting more new cases, in absolute terms, than all states but California, Texas, and Florida.... But those tools aren’t as easy to deploy in a fractious state. This week, Governor Tony Evers, a Democrat, announced that the rising case counts forced him to extend a statewide mask mandate through November. Mask mandates are supported by public-health officials in the Trump administration and the White House Coronavirus Task Force. Yet the state’s top Republican legislators immediately attacked the move. “Moot, illegal, invalid, and almost assuredly headed for litigation,” Scott Fitzgerald, the state’s Senate majority leader, said in a statement. If the mask mandate is overturned in the state legislature, as Fitzgerald has repeatedly threatened, then Wisconsin’s odds of a deadly surge will worsen." /media/img/posts/2020/09/Screen_Shot_2020_09_25_at_6.57.31_PM/original.png) www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/09/wisconsin-coronavirus-hotspot/616510/Freedumb in action! |
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Post by christine58 on Oct 1, 2020 14:51:48 GMT
Not sure how accurate that is because the cases here in New York State have been on the rise for the last few days. It’s traced back to some large gatherings situations within the Hasidic Jew population due to the Jewish holidays.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 14:54:03 GMT
Not sure how accurate that is because the cases here in New York State have been on the rise for the last few days. It’s traced back to some large gatherings situations within the Hasidic Jew population due to the Jewish holidays. It's regional, not by state, in the graph above, but it could also be a few days behind. But the point is that the midwest is ramping UP hard. And that's BEFORE everyone heads back inside in the cold. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 1, 2020 14:54:07 GMT
Guess who is holding not one, but TWO, rallies in Wisconsin!??
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Post by caangel on Oct 1, 2020 14:58:47 GMT
I've been keeping my eye on WI as I have family there. It is getting really bad. And yet I still had a cousin recently ask if March would be a good time to come for a visit to So Cal. Ummm, I don't even know what Halloween (we just had a bunch of schools open for in person) is going to look like much less March after flu season.
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Post by nicolep on Oct 1, 2020 15:02:02 GMT
Well, I'm in Ohio and in my area ( SW Ohio, 10 min north of Dayton) the majority of people do NOT wear masks. They don't care. They scream and hollar about THEIR rights. They fight about the mask mandate being just that...a mandate and NOT a law. They dig their heels in because no one is going to tell them how to live their life. They go to restaurants, the lake, campsites etc and they go in groups of many and they party and post it all over social media.
I posted about this in other threads. I've watched people come and go in and out of gas stations and restaurants and retail establishments without masks and no one cares. No one enforces it either.
I don't get it. SELFISH.
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Post by amom23 on Oct 1, 2020 15:10:41 GMT
Here in North Dakota our numbers are getting worse by the day and our governor still won't issue a mask order. He keeps promoting this ND Smart ad campaign, but there is no ND Smart happening.
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 1, 2020 15:11:32 GMT
Most of my family (cousins, aunt/uncles) live in the Midwest and I haven't yet to see any of them wearing masks unless enforced. But gatherings, boat trips, float trips, Friday night gatherings with friends, 5Ks and such have continued. My mom and one of her sisters are in the Midwest and they are the only ones in the family taking it seriously and neither are high risk other than they are older, no health issues.
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Post by nicolep on Oct 1, 2020 15:13:44 GMT
Most of my family (cousins, aunt/uncles) live in the Midwest and I haven't yet to see any of them wearing masks unless enforced. But gatherings, boat trips, float trips, Friday night gatherings with friends, 5Ks and such have continued. Yep. This is exactly what it is in my area. UGH. |
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Post by wellway on Oct 1, 2020 15:26:36 GMT
In Europe cases are rising but one country that is bucking the trend is Italy. We all know how hard Italy was hit in the first wave. Interesting article on the BBC about their actions and solutions. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54356335 |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 1, 2020 15:52:53 GMT
In Europe cases are rising but one country that is bucking the trend is Italy. We all know how hard Italy was hit in the first wave. Interesting article on the BBC about their actions and solutions. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54356335The pictures in that article are crazy. I can't believe that's what "compliance" looks like. It's way different here in terms of required distance between people eating at restaurants. |
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Post by iowgirl on Oct 1, 2020 16:04:17 GMT
Midwest chiming in here...
School is back in session. No mask requirement. Football and all fall sports are on. Wedding receptions are happening. There was a slight rise in cases right as school started- mostly tied to football, but that seems to have died back down.
There are some who wear masks, and some who don't. Walmart does require a mask, and I think I have only see one dude in there without one.
I live in a very rural area. Things are probably different in the larger population centers. But Covid is surprisingly very low for us - even with all the school activities and weddings, etc. I am really surprised. People do keep distance when eating out. But the larger areas, especially the college towns really spiked hard. They ended up closing the bars in those towns and are trying to restrict the parties, etc., which they waited too long to do... but hopefully those numbers start trending down hard in those areas. They are not having a fall/Thanksgiving break. Instead they will have classes until THanksgiving, then close until later January and resume classes, but no Spring Break. Hopefully this can tighten up the spread of the virus.
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Post by sam9 on Oct 1, 2020 16:35:04 GMT
I honestly don’t think that wearing masks to go shopping is the issue. My province is doing very badly and we have a mask mandate for all indoor public spaces which is adhered to almost 100%. Even before masks were mandated, cases weren’t being contracted from shopping. We are on red alert now, with all bars and restaurants closed, and no visitors allowed in our homes, inside or out. The police have been handed the right to enter private homes with cause. Millions of dollars in fines have been given but people seem to be adamant in their belief that close friends and relatives pose no risk.
In the spring our cases were over 90% from nursing homes. Now the 18-30 group is on the rise even with all our universities closed. They’ve traced it back to home parties, weddings, funerals, restaurants and bars. We’ve also had incidents with religious groups gathering.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 16:41:47 GMT
What's happening in my little corner is that people are attending weddings without their masks. There's reports of two weddings recently being linked to a big surge. Two businesses are closing for ten days, a church is cancelling this weekend's services.
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Post by nicolep on Oct 1, 2020 16:55:04 GMT
no visitors allowed in our homes, inside or out. The police have been handed the right to enter private homes with cause. Wow. I can't imagine. If you're comfortable saying, what country are you in? If not, I understand. |
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Post by sam9 on Oct 1, 2020 17:04:51 GMT
no visitors allowed in our homes, inside or out. The police have been handed the right to enter private homes with cause. Wow. I can't imagine. If you're comfortable saying, what country are you in? If not, I understand. I'm in Canada, in the province of Québec. It was a huge decision to give police that authority. But that's where our cases are being traced to. |
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Post by 950nancy on Oct 1, 2020 17:06:04 GMT
Most of my family (cousins, aunt/uncles) live in the Midwest and I haven't yet to see any of them wearing masks unless enforced. But gatherings, boat trips, float trips, Friday night gatherings with friends, 5Ks and such have continued. My mom and one of her sisters are in the Midwest and they are the only ones in the family taking it seriously and neither are high risk other than they are older, no health issues. I have many friends and family in the Midwest and it is a bit of a crap shoot with the masks. I will say that the ones that down't wear masks post on FB frequently about their rights. |
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 1, 2020 17:06:20 GMT
Here in North Dakota our numbers are getting worse by the day and our governor still won't issue a mask order. He keeps promoting this ND Smart ad campaign, but there is no ND Smart happening. Amen. It’s so frustrating. ND nice *and* smart is out the window, it seems. 😞 I live 6 blocks from the governors mansion, and it’s taking all of my restraint not to go and stand out there with a sign proclaiming exactly that. 😒😖 But hey, 16 parents showed up at the school board meeting here this week, and they’ve decided to put all the kids back in 5 day school by the end of October, on the strength of that. Despite continuing rising cases here. I can’t get my head around it. No wonder we’ve gone through, what is it now, three state health officers since March? |
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Post by nicolep on Oct 1, 2020 17:08:08 GMT
Wow. I can't imagine. If you're comfortable saying, what country are you in? If not, I understand. I'm in Canada, in the province of Québec. It was a huge decision to give police that authority. But that's where our cases are being traced to. I see. Interesting. So, what kind of cause would prompt them to be able to go inside someone's home? Is it more obvious things like a parties, large gatherings etc? |
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Post by sam9 on Oct 1, 2020 17:20:13 GMT
I'm in Canada, in the province of Québec. It was a huge decision to give police that authority. But that's where our cases are being traced to. I see. Interesting. So, what kind of cause would prompt them to be able to go inside someone's home? Is it more obvious things like a parties, large gatherings etc? Absolutely that. Neighbours are reporting large gatherings and parties, etc., more than police are out roaming neighbourhoods looking for them. Plus they can't enter a home without consent or a warrant, but they can get quick access via tele-warrants if a person refuses to provide proof of residency. They've been given the means to intervene in these situations. We're quickly moving towards 1,000 cases per day. |
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Post by nicolep on Oct 1, 2020 17:22:20 GMT
I see. Interesting. So, what kind of cause would prompt them to be able to go inside someone's home? Is it more obvious things like a parties, large gatherings etc? Absolutely that. Neighbours are reporting large gatherings and parties, etc., more than police are out roaming neighbourhoods looking for them. Plus they can't enter a home without consent or a warrant, but they can get quick access via tele-warrants if a person refuses to provide proof of residency. They've been given the means to intervene in these situations. We're quickly moving towards 1,000 cases per day. That makes total sense. Gosh, why can't people just do what they're supposed to do?! Ugh. 1,000 cases/day is scary. Stay safe! |
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Post by scrappert on Oct 1, 2020 17:32:00 GMT
Wisconsin here. I will say that when I travelled "up north" a couple of weekends ago, I was shocked by how many people DO NOT wear masks! In the Milwaukee area, it is pretty much 100% mask wearers. It blew my mind. I see the numbers climbing due to college campuses, there have been quite a few dorm quarantines. And now they are going to start football. Great. It was said the Gov Evers told President that he couldn't do his rallies unless he demanded face coverings. I am sure he will listen.  |
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Post by ellen on Oct 1, 2020 17:38:07 GMT
In Minnesota we have been trying and are doing better than our neighboring states who have few restrictions, but they've made it harder for us. The president has made things worse too. Things really took a turn in our state when Trump tweeted out Liberate Minnesota and made the disease a political issue. That was when people decided it was their right to not wear a mask and that the rest of us were sheep. They were going to live their lives and not live in fear. Trump has held two super spreader events in the last two weeks in northern rural areas. There are weddings and funerals with no masks. People are hosting family/friend get togethers as if it's business as normal.
Our high school recently moved to a hybrid model and we are expecting that our elementary will very soon. Then the people who have made this harder will bitch about that.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 1, 2020 17:39:44 GMT
The pictures in that article are crazy. I can't believe that's what "compliance" looks like. It's way different here in terms of required distance between people eating at restaurants. : the caption to the very first picture (people seated outdoors at tables) says this: "plexiglass screens between tables, the recording of customers' details for contact tracing and disposable paper menus..." If you look closely, you can see the reflection of light on the plexiglass behind the women in the foreground. (ETA: I can see the reflection in the second photo, too.) We've gone to a couple dine-in restaurants, and they have implemented social distancing and some other measures, but there was no keeping track of who was there for contact tracing purposes. I'd feel safer in Europe, I think. |
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Post by miyooper2b on Oct 1, 2020 17:44:20 GMT
I'm in Indiana and we are one of the very few states with a less than 4% infection rate (as of last week). Nearly everything is back to normal with the exception that we still have to wear face masks if we can't social distance. Indianapolis/Marion Co. is a few weeks behind the rest of the state.
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Post by sassyangel on Oct 1, 2020 17:44:53 GMT
The pictures in that article are crazy. I can't believe that's what "compliance" looks like. It's way different here in terms of required distance between people eating at restaurants. : the caption to the very first picture (people seated outdoors at tables) says this: "plexiglass screens between tables, the recording of customers' details for contact tracing and disposable paper menus..." If you look closely, you can see the reflection of light on the plexiglass behind the women in the foreground. (ETA: I can see the reflection in the second photo, too.) We've gone to a couple dine-in restaurants, and they have implemented social distancing and some other measures, but there was no keeping track of who was there for contact tracing purposes. I'd feel safer in Europe, I think. In Australia, if you want to eat out, you’re time limited, and every person in your party has to provide details on a restaurant log for contact tracing. I can imagine how well these kind of requirements would go down where I live here. 😖 |
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Post by psiluvu on Oct 1, 2020 18:11:39 GMT
Wow. I can't imagine. If you're comfortable saying, what country are you in? If not, I understand. I'm in Canada, in the province of Québec. It was a huge decision to give police that authority. But that's where our cases are being traced to. Just to be clear to non Canadians this level of police authority is only happening in the province of Quebec. |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 1, 2020 18:33:09 GMT
The pictures in that article are crazy. I can't believe that's what "compliance" looks like. It's way different here in terms of required distance between people eating at restaurants. : the caption to the very first picture (people seated outdoors at tables) says this: "plexiglass screens between tables, the recording of customers' details for contact tracing and disposable paper menus..." If you look closely, you can see the reflection of light on the plexiglass behind the women in the foreground. (ETA: I can see the reflection in the second photo, too.) We've gone to a couple dine-in restaurants, and they have implemented social distancing and some other measures, but there was no keeping track of who was there for contact tracing purposes. I'd feel safer in Europe, I think. I read about the screen and see some of that in the picture, but I still think they're way, way too close. I am much more comfortable in my state where we're still limited to 50% capacity and people have to be at least 6 feet apart. In reality, the restaurants we've frequented have been way further than 6 feet - even outdoors. |
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Post by heckofagal on Oct 1, 2020 19:19:28 GMT
Missouri here - no mask mandate, and the governor and his wife tested positive last week. And I am skipping my niece's wedding this weekend, but 320 others have decided to attend.  |
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Post by *KAS* on Oct 1, 2020 19:29:31 GMT
Not sure how accurate that is because the cases here in New York State have been on the rise for the last few days. It’s traced back to some large gatherings situations within the Hasidic Jew population due to the Jewish holidays. It's regional, not by state, in the graph above, but it could also be a few days behind. But the point is that the midwest is ramping UP hard. And that's BEFORE everyone heads back inside in the cold. I wonder if it's partially because school is starting back up? My county schools (Georgia) started back (in person) on 8/3 and I think all of our schools that have in person school were back in by end of August. But I know a lot of my friends that still live in the midwest didn't go back until around Labor Day. |
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