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Post by Really Red on Oct 27, 2020 1:27:54 GMT
OMG. I didn't know this. How horrible. Worse, how frustrating to feel so - what's the word I'm looking for? - helpless? Out of control? SO SO angry that there isn't anything you can do. I hope that this movie ends his career. I know that it is hard to get anyone removed from their job. There's still a "good ol' boys" network around. One of my friends reported two doctors this summer for violating COVID rules (their kids had COVID and they still came to work). Do you know what? One was removed from his position and the other had something else happen to him. I almost fell on the floor. NOTHING ever happens and something happened. So maybe what you said/did wasn't enough, but maybe, elaine, it will be enough for the next person he does it to and then he'll be stopped. It absolutely sucks that he is allowed to walk the earth, much less practice, but if you do nothing, nothing happens and you made something happen, even if it wasn't the right result, those other doctors knew. They knew. Good for you.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Oct 27, 2020 1:30:04 GMT
elaine, I am so sorry for all you went through. I hate Borat movies with a passion. In the first one, the wife of a friend of ours was getting a life achievement award in her industry in San Francisco when Borat barged in (I can't remember but I think he was naked ~ but I could be wrong) and totally ruined her night. Our friend and several of his friends had to drag him out of the ballroom. Seems fitting that your doctor was in the latest one.
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 27, 2020 1:34:13 GMT
OMG Elaine! That is beyond horrible. When you are at your most vulnerable and he does that to you; physically and verbally. ((hugs)). I sincerely hope something comes from the complaint that gets filed.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 27, 2020 1:42:55 GMT
The way you were treated is reprehensible. It must feel like a further violation to learn that this jerk with a medical degree is also an anti-semite. I'm sorry, elaine . Do you think the Borat appearance will have a negative impact on his military career? As a reservist, I doubt it will have any impact unfortunately. The Navy isn’t his bread and butter. He has already written about the movie appearance on Facebook, joking about it, and one of his FB friends commented that she hoped he’d get more business from it. 🤬 Well, obviously he doesn’t see any problem with what he said in the movie - which is a huge red flag about his character. Sounds like an idiot, and you were right about him.
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Post by alexa11 on Oct 27, 2020 2:18:06 GMT
Oh, wow- what a despicable jerk!
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Post by flanz on Oct 27, 2020 2:21:26 GMT
elaine .... your feelings are more than justified! And I'm so very sorry. I wonder if it would help you to calm down (for your health) if you thought of it as being upset is just allowing him to hurt you even more. Thank you. ❤️ I’m having a stiff drink and it will subside with some more time. Although I may try to schedule an appointment with my therapist again. Yes, please make self care a high priority! (((HUGS)))
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Post by peano on Oct 27, 2020 2:31:14 GMT
I am so sorry you had to experience such violation at his hands, and then have to relive his anti-Semitism through his exposure in that film. And even more maddening you have no recourse.
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Post by smcast on Oct 27, 2020 2:43:24 GMT
Terrible! I'm so sorry. 😥
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Post by quinlove on Oct 27, 2020 4:11:54 GMT
This is extremely upsetting. I am so sorry that you had to go through that. Hugs to you. ❤️
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Oct 27, 2020 4:29:57 GMT
What an ass. I'm so sorry you had to deal with him. It was one of those moments in the movie that my husband and I turned to each other and were like "is this guy real?".
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Post by rune2484 on Oct 27, 2020 8:19:13 GMT
I wish as a society we talked about this type of experience more. I think it happens a lot, especially with women, but because we don't have a social dialogue to easily express these instances I think a lot of people suffer in silence. It took the better part of a decade to finish processing my emotions when my doctor betrayed me. For years I was desperately reaching out for emotional support. To his credit, my husband was always an amazing ally. I feel bad I had to solely rely on him for so long, but I got a lot of backlash when I would bring it up with my family and friends. I am really proud of the peas for showing so much compassion and I want to echo their words - Your feelings are valid and what that doctor did to you is horrible. You did not deserve to have your personal sovereignty violated or your body mishandled. Part of the healing process for me was learning just what power I have in the patient/physician dynamic. I think the military system in particular thrives on the fact that most people don't really understand. So I want you to know in the future that you have the right to remove consent at ANY moment in your care. It does not matter if you are in a military hospital or a civilian one. I completely understand the pressures to be "a good patient" that are present in the military system, but they cannot require you to undergo a procedure by a physician you are uncomfortable with. Unfortunately, you will probably have to be a shark about it, as in my experience the staff will apply a lot of systematic pressure. But, I have found that once I have set my boundaries and shown that I will not budge the system will typically flex to meet me. It was an amazing moment to tell a doctor that I did not consent to a procedure - and while it was scary to sign the AMA form I got back a lot of my power that the previous doctor had stolen from me. I hope you will find your own moments of empowerment too.
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Post by KelleeM on Oct 27, 2020 8:45:56 GMT
I’m so sorry.
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Post by michellegb on Oct 27, 2020 9:02:48 GMT
I'm so sorry you had to deal with all of this. I can't imagine how you feel. That man (doesn't deserve the title) shouldn't be practicing and it's disgusting and heartbreaking how he has behaved. I can't stand that he isn't being fired or vilified in his "real" job. What a disgrace.
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Post by piebaker on Oct 27, 2020 9:59:18 GMT
I am so sorry. Sorry you were poorly treated and damaged by this man and sorry that he is continuing to hurt others.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 27, 2020 10:36:45 GMT
Arsehole.
I’m so sorry.
I’m glad you already explained to me, during the president’s Covid care, how military hierarchy even affects medical hierarchy. It allows additional understanding of this clusterfudge. And when you mix in gender... such an emotionally-wrought (and daily reminder) reconstruction. Wow. How frustrating, I’m just so sorry.
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Post by maryannscraps on Oct 27, 2020 11:04:07 GMT
I'm so sorry you had to go through all that, and have it reopened with the movie.
That doctor must have quite a reputation for the Borat movie to go after him. I mean, they don't just pick people at random.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 27, 2020 12:41:08 GMT
elaine .... your feelings are more than justified! And I'm so very sorry. I wonder if it would help you to calm down (for your health) if you thought of it as being upset is just allowing him to hurt you even more. Thank you. ❤️ I’m having a stiff drink and it will subside with some more time. Although I may try to schedule an appointment with my therapist again. I think talking to your therapist is a good plan. At least you are validated now, by many people seeing how this ass of a doctor really behaves. I'm guessing it's no accident they picked this doctor to be in the film. They KNEW he was an anti-semitic jerk.
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Post by pyccku on Oct 27, 2020 14:00:44 GMT
I hate Borat movies with a passion. In the first one, the wife of a friend of ours was getting a life achievement award in her industry in San Francisco when Borat barged in (I can't remember but I think he was naked ~ but I could be wrong) and totally ruined her night. Our friend and several of his friends had to drag him out of the ballroom. My family has a love/hate relationship with them. I hate seeing him ruin big events for innocent people, like the one you mention. What did she do to deserve this? On the other hand, it always amazes me how easily some Americans are willing to show their evil side to complete strangers. I think this is something that needs to be shown - how many of these people are walking around among us, going to church on Sunday and pledging allegiance to the flag - but would be equally happy if they could round up immigrants and other minorities and lock them in cages, gas them, etc? It doesn't seem like he has to look very hard to find them. One thing I've been curious about is how many different people did he have to approach to find the "right" type for the movie? Not that it's much of a spoiler - but in once scene he's buying a tank of gas and asking how many gypsies could he kill with this size tank. The salesman tells him he should probably get the bigger tank. WTF? I'd like to know - did he have to visit dozens of stores where people would call him out on this before he found the one guy who would say the horrible things - or was this the first store that he visited? There are a lot of really horrible people in America, and these really horrible people tend to think that they are in the majority. They used to keep quiet, but now they don't mind if everyone knows who they are and what they believe. I have no problem exposing these people - but I do have a problem with the innocent ones who get dragged into it unwillingly. DH is from eastern Europe, so he also enjoys the little references to the backwards culture - it's gotten better in some ways but there are still a lot of people who have some crazy sexist/racist beliefs.
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Post by casii on Oct 27, 2020 14:40:11 GMT
I'm so sorry. He is a pervy ass. Maybe the Borat movie will serve to expose his true character and hurt his reputation in a way that should've happened long ago.
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Post by gizzy on Oct 27, 2020 14:45:26 GMT
I hope that now something will be done. That sounds like an awful experience to go through and then to not have him even be reprimanded is a low blow.
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Post by elaine on Oct 27, 2020 15:42:18 GMT
Thank you everyone! You women are the absolute best. ❤️
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Oct 27, 2020 16:06:45 GMT
I am SO sorry you got stuck with that A**hole.
Maybe the publicity of the movie will cause others he has harmed in the civilian system to speak up - although I hope there are no others, but I seriously doubt if you are the only one.
I just have no words for a doctor who would behave so horribly. Hoping Karma will kick him down where he belongs.
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Post by Mary_K on Oct 27, 2020 17:18:39 GMT
Holy S*#@!
That story makes me so angry.
I'd love to know any back story on how they landed on him for this movie. Was the doctor a target for the movie because of other stories about him?
To be honest, I tried to watch the Borat movie but couldn't get through it. I fast forwarded to the Rudy part.
If anyone can tell me what time the doctor comes into the movie I'd try again and fast forward to that part.
Mary K
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Post by birukitty on Oct 27, 2020 18:35:29 GMT
I am so very sorry Elaine that you had to suffer emotionally and physically at the hands of this piece of shit who walks the earth. He doesn't deserve to be called a doctor or even a person. The doctor/patient relationship should be one built on trust and respect. We offer our bodies over to doctors in the absolute trust that they won't harm us when we give consent to surgery. You didn't have any of that and worse you didn't have the choice of choosing another doctor at the time due to your circumstances. You were literally stuck between a rock and a hard place with a POS who didn't respect you, didn't listen to you, and treated your body as just one more in the line of surgeries that day-a body to earn money. A body he didn't care whether the surgery went correctly or not, because his job was so secure he couldn't be fired. What the ever loving fuck?
How can that be legal? That this POS can continue to preform surgery day after day like this? I understand you can't sue the military but can you file a civil suit against this POS for pain and suffering?
I don't watch Borat movies. I think they are stupid and racist, but to find out in your post that this POS is actually in this 2nd Borat movie and that you had to watch him again behave towards another "woman" as he did towards you must have driven in the knife again into your emotions. I am so very sorry about that. Hopefully it will backfire and his reputation will suffer. What about starting a group for women who are like you? I sure there must be others out there. You could start it as a support group and then maybe bounce ideas off of each other as to how to take your stories public and expose this POS for who he truly is. If suing doesn't work there is always the media. Therapy is incredible for helping to heal emotionally from trauma and I highly recommend it. Getting revenge and helping other women not go through what you did would be the ultimate therapeutic tool.
I wish you the very best and will pray for you. I am sending you big hugs.
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Post by ~Susan~ on Oct 27, 2020 18:48:09 GMT
OMG...I am so sorry that this ass is still able to practice at all and that you are still dealing with his ineptitude.
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