What happens when a president will not concede

yeah, it's total bullshit

And once again, I'm amazed how many things in our government are based on the assumption that candidates/incumbents will voluntarily do the right thing, rather than being law (e.g., disclosing tax returns, this, etc.)

I couldn't listen to the whole thing... when he got to the 'it could be up to delegations from the states, and there are more RED states...' I got so anxious I had to stop it.

I feel sick.

Lie, cheat, steal.

GOP 101

I agree with every word you wrote. I did know what Van Jones said and I'm actually rather surprised that he didn't. I mean he's a lawyer! That said, I'm glad he got the word out, and I absolutely 100% believe this is where Trump is going and I have believed it for several months. 

Trump is a bombastic fool, but Republicans in congress who are supporting him now? They are the destroyers of democracy. I am terrified. I have been terrified for a long time, but it just gets worse. 

Indeed.

Holy crap!

They didn't cover that when i was in school.

Here's to hoping we don't have a dictator in February.

SO scary. I have no doubt that 45 will do everything he can to win. He 100% believes that he got the popular vote, and should have won the electoral college. The only reason he didn't was due to the democrats and voter fraud. He is such a POS that I am convinced that unless some of his advisors and other republicans around him walk away or tell him to grow up and pull his head out of his butt, he is not going to go down quietly.

I'm not going to watch the video because I don't want any more stress in my life. 

However, in response to the thread title if it was an actual question --- my answer would be "I hope what happens is that I'll get to see trump carted off by the Secret Service." Wouldn't that be a lovely sight?

If this were happening in another country, you can bet what we would be saying about it here in the US.

Every single person in the US should be very very concerned about this. But we already know that those moronic selfish trump supporters won't give a shit, they will be happy about it, as long as their boy donny gets back in. Fuck the rest of you, and fuck the Constitution, fuck everything as long as they get what they want. IOKIYAR. How loudly would they be screaming if if were the Dems doing this? I hate them with every fibre of my being. 

John Bolton: "It is simply a truism that Trump has a legal right to pursue all appropriate election-law remedies to ensure an accurate, lawful vote count. To be credible, however, any aggrieved candidate must at some point produce valid legal arguments and persuasive evidence.

Trump has so far failed to do so, and there is no indication he can. If he can’t, his “right” to contest the election is beside the point. The real issue is the grievous harm he is causing to public trust in America’s constitutional system. Trump’s time is running out, even as his rhetoric continues escalating. And time is running out for Republicans who hope to maintain the party’s credibility, starting with Georgia’s two Senate runoffs in January. Here is the cold political reality: Trump is enhancing his own brand (in his mind) while harming the Republican brand. The party needs a long internal conversation about the post-Trump era, but first it needs to get there honorably.


Consider the competing interests. Donald Trump’s is simple and straightforward: Donald Trump. The near-term Republican interest is winning the Georgia runoffs. The long-term Republican interest emphatically involves winning those Senate seats, but it also involves rejecting Trump’s personalized, erratic, uncivil, unpresidential and ultimately less-than-effective politics and governance.

One approach holds that coddling Trump while he trashes the U.S. electoral system will help him get over the loss, thereby making it easier to reconcile him to leaving the Oval Office. But this coddling strategy is exactly backward. The more Republican leaders kowtow, the more Trump believes he is still in control and the less likely he will do what normal presidents do: make a gracious concession speech; fully cooperate with the president-elect in a smooth transition process; and validate the election process itself by joining his successor at the Jan. 20 inauguration."

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/john-bolton-trump-republicans-concession-transition/2020/11/11/aabcf372-2430-11eb-a688-5298ad5d580a_story.html

Sucks to be you, Johnny. You enabled the toddler. Now you deal w/his tantrum.

I love watching post apocalyptic television shows but lately it’s like “is what we’re living though how it all starts?”
I’m thinking yes. It really can go to shit that fast.