pinklady
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,514
Nov 14, 2016 23:47:03 GMT
|
Post by pinklady on Nov 20, 2020 19:10:08 GMT
|
|
jediannie
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,841
Jun 30, 2014 3:19:06 GMT
|
Post by jediannie on Nov 20, 2020 19:12:18 GMT
I may have reported it as spam. (the instagram post not your post). LOL
|
|
jediannie
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,841
Jun 30, 2014 3:19:06 GMT
|
Post by jediannie on Nov 20, 2020 19:20:10 GMT
This is just gross. Honestly. Didn't they get a crap ton of money in the GoFundMe, now people are shilling for them to get more? It's great their online friends are stepping up but isn't there a point when you say, "wow, they have almost a $500k which is more than some people will make in their lifetime, maybe we can give the money to support people who actually need it?"
|
|
julie5
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,611
Jul 11, 2018 15:20:45 GMT
|
Post by julie5 on Nov 20, 2020 19:24:51 GMT
It seems like a really gross thing all the way around. Becky shilling all of her IGs?!?! $100 for a one on one coach phone call from Becky? Wow. These people are disgusting. I’m so glad I didn’t donate to the gfm. I thought about I really did. Instead we took $200 to the food bank in town and participated in the shoebox program for kids. I feel so much better about that money spent than I would have by donating $5 to Liz.
|
|
|
Post by sleepingbooty on Nov 20, 2020 19:29:50 GMT
And I hope to surround all the poor people who can't afford to cut up food gift cards on Instagram for the headpats and extra Venmo traffic with love this Christmas.
|
|
julie5
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,611
Jul 11, 2018 15:20:45 GMT
|
Post by julie5 on Nov 20, 2020 19:32:31 GMT
This is just gross. Honestly. Didn't they get a crap ton of money in the GoFundMe, now people are shilling for them to get more? It's great their online friends are stepping up but isn't there a point when you say, "wow, they have almost a $500k which is more than some people will make in their lifetime, maybe we can give the money to support people who actually need it?" That’s what I did. My husbands niece was a twat last year at Christmas (I know this another subject altogether lol) and I spent a lot of money on her gift. So this I’m giving her the same random crap her mom gives my kids and I spent That money on strangers for the shoebox Program. I’m sick of spoiled entitled people. I’ll never get to see the kids who get my boxes but I know those items will be treasured. The kartchner saga also pushed me to donate money to our food bank. There are families local that can’t afford a thanksgiving meal. Liz can shove her nuggies down her throat. Every little bit you towards actual needy people matters. I guarantee it. Those people are thankfull. I was homeless at this time 7 years ago and had to take my child to a restaraunt for a meal because I had no where to take her. I swore that day I would never complain about doing dishes if I ever got a home again. And I haven’t. It was a very humbling experience. I had a coworker who invited me and my kids to his house without his wife first because he knew she would not want kids not having a place to go. I ugly cried that night on the job. Lol. We didn’t go because two of my kids wanted nothing to do with me. That was humiliating. Kindness does matter.
|
|
PaperAngel
Drama Llama
Posts: 7,312
Jun 27, 2014 23:04:06 GMT
|
Post by PaperAngel on Nov 20, 2020 20:14:57 GMT
This holiday season will undoubtedly be difficult for the Kartchner family & others whose loved ones have passed away this year. The outpouring of love & support for them from the scrapbooking community is heartwarming.
Given Liz collected $300K+ within the last 4 weeks before dramatically destroying a $40 gift card to a fast casual restaurant on social media (which means no one - her, her children, or anyone else - can use it to buy food) & declaring "it's just money," will people continue to consider her family needy & donate?
|
|
|
Post by karinec on Nov 20, 2020 20:55:13 GMT
How much more money does she need. Or, how much more money do they expect people to give to her? SMH.
|
|
|
Post by ss on Nov 20, 2020 21:21:12 GMT
When I heard about his death, I googled because I really didn't know anything about him. I came across his "net worth". 20 million, and I thought, at least his family will be taken care of.
|
|
|
Post by songbird on Nov 20, 2020 22:55:39 GMT
When I heard about his death, I googled because I really didn't know anything about him. I came across his "net worth". 20 million, and I thought, at least his family will be taken care of. I’m not sure that’s accurate. Those net worth google results are wildly inaccurate many times.
|
|
|
Post by sam9 on Nov 20, 2020 22:56:18 GMT
I lieu of donating to charities that I really care about, I’ll be bidding on some of the auction items. Tim Holtz’s includes free international shipping so that is a first for this industry. Whoo hoo! In addition, I think maybe no gifts for my children either. All to Dear Lizzy. Maybe it will help restore her faith in baby Jesus.
Is this really happening? People are going to do this? What has the world come to?
P.S. I have always loathed Cathy Zielske (spelling? too lazy to check).
|
|
|
Post by ss on Nov 20, 2020 23:12:18 GMT
I have been donating to a local organization " Beverly's Birthdays" who provides birthday parties to homeless children. So many organizations that help those who actually need the help! Can you even imagine what these smaller organizations would do with that kind of money??
|
|
|
Post by gemini_jen on Nov 20, 2020 23:48:24 GMT
Came here to see if this was being talked about ... my mind is seriously blown. $300k raised in the GFM, hundreds for nuggets, requests to share problems with Lizzy and now this money grab? Clearly I’m too interested in the train wreck because I’m still following her ... but geez. I’m also strangely curious how he passed (maybe because there was only speculation??)
|
|
|
Post by marmargirl on Nov 20, 2020 23:53:42 GMT
I am dumbfounded!
There are so many people truly suffering financially this year who are in greater need and the scrapbooking community is choosing to band together for this privileged family?
I understand the devastation of losing a family member; I’ve had my share of loss. This auction, and the go fund me before it, are just examples of gross privilege.
A better way to honor this family, and Collin’s memory, would be to make donations to No Child Hungry in their name.
|
|
|
Post by wendifful on Nov 21, 2020 0:27:54 GMT
Given the huge amount of money their family has already received, I think a better way to "surround them with love" would have been to ask people to send cards/something handmade, in the spirit of Liz's papercrafting success. Money does not equal love and while cards from strangers may not solve their problems, imagine what treasures those cards would be for their children. (When I was 13, our family lost our house in a wildfire. In the following weeks, we were shown so much generosity by so many people, but the gift that I still remember 20+ years later is one that was deeply meaningful to me. At the time, I had some T shirts from summer camps I had been to and I took pride in wearing them, but they were all lost in the fire. Another girl who had been to the same camps heard about this and gave me her shirts. I don't think they mattered that much to her, but it wasn't possible to buy them, so I thought they were truly lost forever. Her sacrifice and thought still touches me all these years later, and that's the kind of love that I think the Kartchner family should seek after.)
I think it's great that so many well-known figures in the industry are stepping up to help (even if the value of some of their auction items is wildly inflated), so I don't fault them for helping, but also...read the (pandemic-filled) room.
|
|
|
Post by joblackford on Nov 21, 2020 0:54:29 GMT
Some of my favorite (non-local) charities are: Partners in Health: working with community health workers to treat drug resistant TB, HIV, Ebola, and now CoViD, around the world (and trying to teach the USA how to do contact tracing). There's a film on Netflix about their work. bendingthearcfilm.com/Dig Deep: www.digdeep.org/our-works/navajo-water-project bringing running water into the homes of the 30%+ of Navajo households who don't have a tap or toilet. There's an Appalachian water project too. The Bail Project: paying the bail of people accused of (often bogus or minor) crimes so they don't sit in jail for months waiting for their court dates. It's a rotating fund so each dollar has the potential to help many people as most of the money gets paid back. bailproject.org/Kiva: small loans to people who need them, which are then paid back, so the same money can go to help someone else. www.kiva.org/Everest Biogas project: cleaning up the literal piles of shit that rich/western climbers have left on Mt Everest, and providing the Sherpa people with a sustainable energy source in the process, helping people and protecting the environment. mteverestbiogasproject.org/That's where my money is going, as well as the local Angel Tree project and the homeless mission in town.
|
|
|
Post by riversong1963 on Nov 21, 2020 1:30:59 GMT
Wow. Just. Wow. Just when you think it can't get more disgusting - well, yes, it can. This whole thing is turning my stomach. There are so many needy people in the world. Why does someone who has just been given almost $500,000 need a charity auction to "surround her and the kids with love"? I'm sure that losing a husband and father is devastating and heartbreaking, but money doesn't heal that. Please excuse me now. I have to go and be sick.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
May 3, 2024 23:04:44 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 1:36:42 GMT
Wow. Just. Wow. Just when you think it can't get more disgusting - well, yes, it can. This whole thing is turning my stomach. There are so many needy people in the world. Why does someone who has just been given almost $500,000 need a charity auction to "surround her and the kids with love"? I'm sure that losing a husband and father is devastating and heartbreaking, but money doesn't heal that. Please excuse me now. I have to go and be sick. This. Times 10000% from me. Thanks to others for sharing other charities that would be *truly* in need, imo. For the past few years, I give locally pretty much exclusively but love seeing other options.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
May 3, 2024 23:04:44 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 1:50:37 GMT
I swore that day I would never complain about doing dishes if I ever got a home again. And I haven’t. I pea-love you. Hugs my pea-friend. Your story gives me hope.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
May 3, 2024 23:04:44 GMT
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 2:00:21 GMT
Posted this on the CK thread, but I'll bring it here too - and add to it.... "I can't imagine in what world I would part w/my money to an upper middle-class family (who just raked in $400K) over foster kids, kids w/leukemia, women's shelters, refugee camps, docs w/o borders, etc." Adding - IG is not meant to be an auction site (though people sometimes use it that way). When you sign up for an online auction, like Ebay, the TOS say you are liable for your bid. But on Instagram?!?! What would they do if people are the winning bid and then decide 'oh crap, I can't afford that!!' and they just decide not to pay!??! I guess they'd just go to the next highest bid, but good luck enforcing payment since you have no TOS for any of it. Thank you joblackford . We've already done some year-end giving. You're reminding me that we still have more to do and more great orgs to whom to contribute.
|
|
|
Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Nov 21, 2020 2:04:06 GMT
The line between help her and their children.......and GREED was crossed a few hundred thousands of dollars ago.
Now it's has turned into "taking as much as we can get".
It's downright shameful.
|
|
|
Post by Skellinton on Nov 21, 2020 5:44:14 GMT
So very gross. There are at least 20 people participating, right? Each of them could spend 100 each out of their own pocket and probably not feel it even a little bit. That would give each child 500 worth of love. That seems like a damn lot for each kid to me. Plenty for them to know they are loved (insert massive eye roll here).
It is disgusting to know that each of those auctions will likely get way more then that, I bet the TH will go crazy.
|
|
cbscrapper
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,402
Sept 5, 2015 18:24:10 GMT
|
Post by cbscrapper on Nov 21, 2020 6:44:30 GMT
I feel for the family, I really do. But this is a bit misdirected and as others have said, could be used for families or children truly in financial need.
The thing that really got me though was BH and how hers was essentially an advertisement for herself! Not to mention the price of an opening bid at $100 for an hour with her. For coaching. Yeah whatever. The narcissism is strong with that one. At least the other contributors put the focus on the event and not themselves. Vicki Boutin’s opening bid was $50 for a hour with her AND $100 of personalized product. That holds much more value to me. If the proceeds were going to a worthwhile charity, that is the one I would bid on.
|
|
|
Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 21, 2020 6:49:30 GMT
You know, if they as a community want to do something for the Kartchners, more power to them. But it looks like what they really want is to get public credit while their customer base pays for it. Real generous.
|
|
cbscrapper
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,402
Sept 5, 2015 18:24:10 GMT
|
Post by cbscrapper on Nov 21, 2020 6:56:33 GMT
You know, if they as a community want to do something for the Kartchners, more power to them. But it looks like what they really want is to get public credit while their customer base pays for it. Real generous. Definitely some strong virtue signaling going on...
|
|
|
Post by trixiecat on Nov 21, 2020 13:42:15 GMT
I came here also to see if this would be discussed. It is disgusting. I think also it is great the crafting community is surrounding her, but giving that family more money or gifts to show they are loved during the holidays will not replace having a husband or father, or even lighten the grief. I think it would mean so much more if each of them took $100-$200 and had meals sent in covering the next several months for the family. I wonder if Liz approved this.
|
|
julie5
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 3,611
Jul 11, 2018 15:20:45 GMT
|
Post by julie5 on Nov 21, 2020 13:50:39 GMT
You know, if they as a community want to do something for the Kartchners, more power to them. But it looks like what they really want is to get public credit while their customer base pays for it. Real generous. I think this is the worst part. Anyone can say “my friend needs your donations”. I don’t know that lizzy should get all the blame. It’s the ones organizing and using this platform to push their products off on us. Those are the ones who are truly disgusting. Lizzy is a product of her Mormon upbringing.
|
|
|
Post by threegirls on Nov 21, 2020 14:37:46 GMT
I wonder if any of the well known scrappers are feeling like they are trapped between a rock and hard place? Are any of them being pressured to participate in this crazy auction? If any of them said "no" to participating they might come off looking cold hearted to some of their followers.
The auction isn't really needed however well intentioned. I feel for the family, especially the children but however big their Christmas presents are won't really help with the loss of a father.
PS - I spend around $125.00 per kid (3 kids) for their Christmas presents. I thought I was being very generous to them but apparently I'm cheap.
|
|
|
Post by Skellinton on Nov 21, 2020 16:42:38 GMT
I wonder if any of the well known scrappers are feeling like they are trapped between a rock and hard place? Are any of them being pressured to participate in this crazy auction? If any of them said "no" to participating they might come off looking cold hearted to some of their followers. The auction isn't really needed however well intentioned. I feel for the family, especially the children but however big their Christmas presents are won't really help with the loss of a father. PS - I spend around $125.00 per kid (3 kids) for their Christmas presents. I thought I was being very generous to them but apparently I'm cheap. No, you are not being cheap. Your children just aren’t loved. Obviously I am kidding, but it kills me that they are all going on how about showing love by spending an enormous amount of money on them.
|
|
|
Post by hop2 on Nov 21, 2020 16:52:12 GMT
How about we adopt that single parent around the corner ( any corner literally ) whose working 2 $9/hr jobs just to feed their kids? Kids who are going to be getting warm socks & a coat for Christmas IF they are lucky & parent hasn’t been furloughed during the pandemic.
There’s several of these people in every town - if you don’t know how to donate to them start at your local food pantry or social services they usually can direct you on how to help ( without making it a spectacle )
No one needs to know you did it. But you know.
|
|