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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 3:09:31 GMT
I find the current video in her stories with the lyrics “I got billz” incredibly tacky and in poor taste. So the auction was a huge success and the kids were gifted a $100 bill to shop at Target. Flashing the cash is just gross. I felt like I was watching a documentary about the sad excesses of American capitalism and nihilism. They would have fit right in:
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Post by melb on Nov 30, 2020 11:02:28 GMT
I’m sorry but I think the whole thing is disgusting. She needs to grieve in private and then like everyone else go out and get a job. She’s received more money than most people will see in a lifetime & they were quite irresponsible not looking out for their future. They are wanna be celebrities and he’s a total hypocrite. 🙄🙄 do I feel sorry for her - for sure, very sad. But I’ve also watched Kayla Stoeklin navigate her husbands suicide with grace & dignity. She’s also had to completely change her life and get a job while grieving & looking after 3 young boys!! Plus many other people walk this journey with not much help. Hey if you can scam?? it out of people and not have to go to work - all power to you. (Tongue in cheek)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 14:24:47 GMT
I’m sorry but I think the whole thing is disgusting. She needs to grieve in private and then like everyone else go out and get a job. She’s received more money than most people will see in a lifetime & they were quite irresponsible not looking out for their future. They are wanna be celebrities and he’s a total hypocrite. 🙄🙄 do I feel sorry for her - for sure, very sad. But I’ve also watched Kayla Stoeklin navigate her husbands suicide with grace & dignity. She’s also had to completely change her life and get a job while grieving & looking after 3 young boys!! Plus many other people walk this journey with not much help. Hey if you can scam?? it out of people and not have to go to work - all power to you. (Tongue in cheek) But like Lizzy, she has turned her grief into cash: www.instagram.com/_GODSGOTTHIS/
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Post by questioning on Dec 1, 2020 14:53:59 GMT
I haven't followed Dear Lizzy, but like a Kardasian (deliberately misspelled) it's impossible to not know them in the scrap world. I have been moved by the photos and videos she's shared the past month of their family, regardless of how/why they have so very much visual documentation of themselves.
The flip side is I still don't get it. The now sanctified husband has been a public spoiled jerk and made his glory as a hypocrite. The "modest" mother has capitalized on her physical beauty and managed to show a lot of shape without showing all skin. I especially don't understand educated, middle class, privileged parents willing to bring so many kids into the world without a plan to care for them if the unexpected happens.
And what about those large extended families, church group, etc? In my no glitz, humble little life our small families and local groups would step in.
I really do not understand.
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Post by questioning on Dec 1, 2020 14:57:41 GMT
And I am glad I missed the gift card destruction. The hundred dollar bill segment was just nasty and I already had trouble with her declaring The Is No God.
I feel bitchy typing this. I understand their grief, of course, and feel for them losing a Dad and husband. But as far as I'm concerned these displays are productions for their Brand and judging them was invited.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 1, 2020 16:03:06 GMT
And I am glad I missed the gift card destruction. The hundred dollar bill segment was just nasty and I already had trouble with her declaring The Is No God. I feel bitchy typing this. I understand their grief, of course, and feel for them losing a Dad and husband. But as far as I'm concerned these displays are productions for their Brand and judging them was invited. Honestly, the ‘there is no god’ statement was probably the most authentic piece of her public grief show. Loosing someone really important to you, like that can really shake the foundations of your faith no matter your denomination. The senselessness of it is astounding to you at some point and you can’t match circumstances to faith practices. Yeah, that part of her public ‘show’ rang the most authentic to me from my grief experiences.
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Post by questioning on Dec 1, 2020 16:20:47 GMT
And I am glad I missed the gift card destruction. The hundred dollar bill segment was just nasty and I already had trouble with her declaring The Is No God. I feel bitchy typing this. I understand their grief, of course, and feel for them losing a Dad and husband. But as far as I'm concerned these displays are productions for their Brand and judging them was invited. Honestly, the ‘there is no god’ statement was probably the most authentic piece of her public grief show. Loosing someone really important to you, like that can really shake the foundations of your faith no matter your denomination. The senselessness of it is astounding to you at some point and you can’t match circumstances to faith practices. Yeah, that part of her public ‘show’ rang the most authentic to me from my grief experiences. Thank you, maybe that's so individual I shouldn't have included it. I've had my own "drop to the ground wailing" loss and didn't feel that way, but I've heard others say it. I've suspected losing or threatening one of my children would push me in ways I never expect. Thank you for your kind description and reminder we all can be shaken.
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Post by julie5 on Dec 1, 2020 16:38:42 GMT
When I was pregnant with my 2nd child, I had a medical issue that was the most painful thing of my life. It was an excruciating experience and I almost didn’t want more children because of it. I was wailing on once so frustrated and exhausted from the pain and said “why me? ” And someone on the internet told me “why not you? What makes you so special”. I’ve carried that with me for 19 years now. I’ve lost just about everyone and everything I cared about since then and I never say why me. Shit happens and we’re all going to die at some point. I’m prepared for that fact. I’m only 3 years older than Colin was and I know my time is limited. My husband is overweight and takes poor care of himself. I could lose him at anytime. Maybe it’s the depressive cycle I am stuck in right now but looking at Liz and thinking “really? No god? Lots of cash?” Whatever.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 1, 2020 16:54:06 GMT
And I am glad I missed the gift card destruction. The hundred dollar bill segment was just nasty and I already had trouble with her declaring The Is No God. I feel bitchy typing this. I understand their grief, of course, and feel for them losing a Dad and husband. But as far as I'm concerned these displays are productions for their Brand and judging them was invited. Honestly, the ‘there is no god’ statement was probably the most authentic piece of her public grief show. Loosing someone really important to you, like that can really shake the foundations of your faith no matter your denomination. The senselessness of it is astounding to you at some point and you can’t match circumstances to faith practices. Yeah, that part of her public ‘show’ rang the most authentic to me from my grief experiences. I also stand by people venting publicly when faced with traumatic loss and I see no harm in questioning deities or other beliefs that leave one feeling lost and abandoned when facing the sudden death of a loved one. Then again, I am an atheist so I don't see any issues with someone making such declarations. Losing a spouse turns your world upside down; it comes as no surprise that someone's beliefs would also be questioned during such trials (temporarily at least, sometimes permanently). I, too, think that Elizabeth's first IG outbursts in the hours/days after his passing were the most authentic and constructive expression of going through the first stages of grief. After that, things got murky and it became the public 24/7 rollercoaster of emotions display with Venmo screenshots and shoutouts. This discussion is a good reminder that not everyone believes in some form of afterlife, heavenly gates or a spiritual realm in which you'll find your loved ones again one day. It's better not to make that assumption when sending a message of comfort to someone whose status on faith and/or specific faith you don't know. As a non-believer, telling me you're keeping me in your prayers or that someone who passed is in a "better place" is putting salt on the raw and bleeding wound. The amount of nones (unaffiliated including but not limited to agnostist and atheists) stands at 23% for the US and 26.5% for Europe.
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Post by hop2 on Dec 1, 2020 16:57:52 GMT
julie5 well some people’s concept of god is a little bit ‘immature’ ( for lack of a better description) . I mean, at this point in my life I’m pretty sure God is not an Oprah like figure in the clouds going ‘your prayer is answered, your prayer is answered, your prayer is answered, eh you not so much” like some seem to think. While my travels thru grief have shaken me and my faith I have ( so far ) come away more spiritual and less organized religious each time. Each experience shook me enough that while working thru it, thru the anger & why me & the this makes no sense, I think I eventually came away with a better understanding of what the supreme being is and what it’s not. I think those questions in life are important. And questions in a time of grief is ‘normal’ Perhaps that questioning isn’t meant for publicity, or at least not publicity attached to a price tag. 😉
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Post by questioning on Dec 2, 2020 22:30:42 GMT
And I am glad I missed the gift card destruction. The hundred dollar bill segment was just nasty and I already had trouble with her declaring The Is No God. I feel bitchy typing this. I understand their grief, of course, and feel for them losing a Dad and husband. But as far as I'm concerned these displays are productions for their Brand and judging them was invited. Quoting myself here to explain something that got mangled by my replies in two different posts. My judgement here of her No God statement is due to the large part her religion plays in her prior posts. Unless I've lumped her unfairly with other mormon bloggers. I do not like how she flipped a switch once the prosperity theme failed her. Maybe that's her reality, but why share it? It gets back to the insistence these people have on blending their personal pages with their professional ones. My next reply to hop2 was directed at Hop's point, sharing personal views. I absolutely agree with what was said later about faith being an evolving journey, if one allows it. sleepingbooty you have prompted this staying in my thoughts. I know you understand the USA is filled with a greater variety of views than the scrapbook world displays. I have my own NONE family members and friends, our community is quite diverse religiously too, no need for reminders here. I appreciate you so much, your business insight and personal views keep me coming back. I hope eventually scrapbooking will too. My short term hiatus has into it's second or third year. That's way too long!
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Post by scrappydo on Dec 25, 2020 22:07:16 GMT
OMG!!!! The packages under their tree and the total mountain of trash of the aftermath!
It actually made me really sad that they equated all those material goodies as love.
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Post by quinmm14 on Dec 27, 2020 2:15:03 GMT
OMG!!!! The packages under their tree and the total mountain of trash of the aftermath! It actually made me really sad that they equated all those material goodies as love. Right? I had a conversation with my ds just the other day about gifts, we were talking about how many gifts the grandchildren get because both ds and dil have parents that are divorced and four sets of grandparents buying gifts. Ds was joking that he'd have to store some in the studio apartment above our garage, I told him he still had some of his childhood toys stored there. That started a conversation about how the gifts were appreciated but the best memories were of doing things together. Baking, shopping, going to see light displays and concerts, etc. and I realized then that's what he remembered the most, not the things we bought for him. I do understand this is the first Christmas without their father/husband and it's hard. But those things don't make up for it and they never will. I hope they actually realize that. I think I read she's got counseling set up soon, that's a good thing. And much needed.
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Post by julie5 on Dec 27, 2020 2:52:24 GMT
OMG!!!! The packages under their tree and the total mountain of trash of the aftermath! It actually made me really sad that they equated all those material goodies as love. I put off looking so the raging bitch in me wouldn’t come out but looking-it’s not that bad for 4 kids and a grieving mom. I’m not saying material possession should equal love but if things bring them comfort right now, I can’t judge. I’m continually fighting the materialism bug. Things make me feel better in the moment but keep me from dealing with real issues. I’ll probably always battle that. I way over bought for my kids this year-our tree looked similar for 2 kids. I know I’m over compensating for my own sadness in life. I wanted to make this time magical and I succeeded. I do hope lizzys kids are finding comfort in the stuff.
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Post by julie5 on Dec 27, 2020 2:56:21 GMT
Also, her kids words indicate to me that they definitely value their mother over toys. They seem very attached to her and concerned for her. That kills. So sweet.
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Post by jediannie on Dec 27, 2020 3:12:15 GMT
I'll admit my kid has gotten so many more gifts this year because we aren't able to go anywhere or see anyone except via Zoom or facetime, so we overcompensated with presents. I can't judge the amount her kids got because I'm sure my 1 kid got way more than she should have.
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Post by Night Owl on Dec 27, 2020 4:10:26 GMT
Her kids are darling. I don't know them personally so am only judging by what she puts out on social media but I get the impression the children feel they need big personalities like their parents in order to get attention.
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 27, 2020 10:01:58 GMT
See, I saw (and saved) those IG stories and thought to myself that they were begging for money online (Liz herself included with her cutting up gift card drama + posting screenshots of donations on her Venmo account) using sob stories à la no life insurance because Collin was "too busy" to get some and then bought an AVALANCHE of gifts. Not under the tree but strewn across the entire living room floor. I understand some people are compensating for 2020 with extra gifts for their kids but this isn't the same situation. This is a woman who begged and pulled on the heartstrings to get to the purse strings, living a cush McMansion lifestyle on the 'Gram and using it to further her influencer status, because of no life insurance, no dental. And then goes and waste important money on way too many gifts.
A few extra hundreds of dollars saved right now would have been a very welcome investment in a college fund for the kids. And yes, of course, we don't know whether the kids don't have a decent-sized college fund, yadda yadda. I doubt it. She spends like a sieve under a running faucet.
Also, I don't know a single family who's had this many gifts for Christmas ever. Holy excess. Holy fuck the environment, too. Call me the Grinch but I'm going with a big fat nope. The damage being done to the Dear Lizzy brand is irrepairable at this stage.
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Post by Skellinton on Dec 27, 2020 15:39:20 GMT
OMG!!!! The packages under their tree and the total mountain of trash of the aftermath! It actually made me really sad that they equated all those material goodies as love. I put off looking so the raging bitch in me wouldn’t come out but looking-it’s not that bad for 4 kids and a grieving mom. I’m not saying material possession should equal love but if things bring them comfort right now, I can’t judge. I’m continually fighting the materialism bug. Things make me feel better in the moment but keep me from dealing with real issues. I’ll probably always battle that. I way over bought for my kids this year-our tree looked similar for 2 kids. I know I’m over compensating for my own sadness in life. I wanted to make this time magical and I succeeded. I do hope lizzys kids are finding comfort in the stuff. They raised at least 25,000. That is 5,000 per family member at least. Even overcompensating for Covid times that seems insanely excessive. As sleepingbooty said that is a lot of money that could have gone to paying for things that are necessary for their family. I still can't get over the fact that this family so equates love with material things. I can't even fathom wanting to live that way.
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Post by nicolep on Dec 27, 2020 15:42:04 GMT
I don't even want to go look. I can't imagine.
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Post by mom on Dec 27, 2020 15:57:41 GMT
See, I saw (and saved) those IG stories and thought to myself that they were begging for money online (Liz herself included with her cutting up gift card drama + posting screenshots of donations on her Venmo account) using sob stories à la no life insurance because Collin was "too busy" to get some and then bought an AVALANCHE of gifts. Not under the tree but strewn across the entire living room floor. I understand some people are compensating for 2020 with extra gifts for their kids but this isn't the same situation. This is a woman who begged and pulled on the heartstrings to get to the purse strings, living a cush McMansion lifestyle on the 'Gram and using it to further her influencer status, because of no life insurance, no dental. And then goes and waste important money on way too many gifts. A few extra hundreds of dollars saved right now would have been a very welcome investment in a college fund for the kids. And yes, of course, we don't know whether the kids don't have a decent-sized college fund, yadda yadda. I doubt it. She spends like a sieve under a running faucet. Also, I don't know a single family who's had this many gifts for Christmas ever. Holy excess. Holy fuck the environment, too. Call me the Grinch but I'm going with a big fat nope. The damage being done to the Dear Lizzy brand is irrepairable at this stage.I agree. I will never be able to unsee what I have seen on instagram. Never again will I be able to separate the brand from this mess.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Dec 27, 2020 16:08:54 GMT
I don't follow Dear Lizzy, but would really like to see the presents under that tree! I assume it was in a story that expired because I didn't see anything when I went and looked at her IG.
Never mind, I see is was multiple pictures in the post.
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Post by scrappydo on Dec 27, 2020 21:36:50 GMT
See, I saw (and saved) those IG stories and thought to myself that they were begging for money online (Liz herself included with her cutting up gift card drama + posting screenshots of donations on her Venmo account) using sob stories à la no life insurance because Collin was "too busy" to get some and then bought an AVALANCHE of gifts. Not under the tree but strewn across the entire living room floor. I understand some people are compensating for 2020 with extra gifts for their kids but this isn't the same situation. This is a woman who begged and pulled on the heartstrings to get to the purse strings, living a cush McMansion lifestyle on the 'Gram and using it to further her influencer status, because of no life insurance, no dental. And then goes and waste important money on way too many gifts. A few extra hundreds of dollars saved right now would have been a very welcome investment in a college fund for the kids. And yes, of course, we don't know whether the kids don't have a decent-sized college fund, yadda yadda. I doubt it. She spends like a sieve under a running faucet. Also, I don't know a single family who's had this many gifts for Christmas ever. Holy excess. Holy fuck the environment, too. Call me the Grinch but I'm going with a big fat nope. The damage being done to the Dear Lizzy brand is irrepairable at this stage.I agree. I will never be able to unsee what I have seen on instagram. Never again will I be able to separate the brand from this mess. And this is what I was thinking.... a few extra gifts because really tough year, I get. What was on display there.... total excess over the top. All very much "give all the things to me now". Wait a few weeks, and I'm picking another request to help will come up because "good reasons "
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Post by twillerbee on Dec 27, 2020 23:40:26 GMT
And all that money she got from go fund me is outrageous amount on top of this christmas gift display. Trying not to be judgmental but can not help it. Everything about this is WRONG!!!Someone from her family needs to intervene and help her.
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Post by jediannie on Dec 28, 2020 1:12:29 GMT
The damage being done to the Dear Lizzy brand is irreparable at this stage. I completely agree with this, I just don't want to judge the kids because of the parent's major problematic behavior. I wasn't a fan of theirs and now I'm very glad her brand never got any money from me.
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Post by mich5481 on Dec 28, 2020 2:38:52 GMT
See, I saw (and saved) those IG stories and thought to myself that they were begging for money online (Liz herself included with her cutting up gift card drama + posting screenshots of donations on her Venmo account) using sob stories à la no life insurance because Collin was "too busy" to get some and then bought an AVALANCHE of gifts. Not under the tree but strewn across the entire living room floor. I understand some people are compensating for 2020 with extra gifts for their kids but this isn't the same situation. This is a woman who begged and pulled on the heartstrings to get to the purse strings, living a cush McMansion lifestyle on the 'Gram and using it to further her influencer status, because of no life insurance, no dental. And then goes and waste important money on way too many gifts. A few extra hundreds of dollars saved right now would have been a very welcome investment in a college fund for the kids. And yes, of course, we don't know whether the kids don't have a decent-sized college fund, yadda yadda. I doubt it. She spends like a sieve under a running faucet. Also, I don't know a single family who's had this many gifts for Christmas ever. Holy excess. Holy fuck the environment, too. Call me the Grinch but I'm going with a big fat nope. The damage being done to the Dear Lizzy brand is irrepairable at this stage. I don't know, maybe my brothers and I were spoiled, but I remember Christmases with that many gifts when I was little. If you wrap every gift, it adds up. Plus, who knows how many of those gifts are from grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and family friends. There's a lot to judge with the money grabs, but I'm not going to begrudge fatherless children Christmas presents.
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Post by amp on Dec 28, 2020 3:25:24 GMT
See, I saw (and saved) those IG stories and thought to myself that they were begging for money online (Liz herself included with her cutting up gift card drama + posting screenshots of donations on her Venmo account) using sob stories à la no life insurance because Collin was "too busy" to get some and then bought an AVALANCHE of gifts. Not under the tree but strewn across the entire living room floor. I understand some people are compensating for 2020 with extra gifts for their kids but this isn't the same situation. This is a woman who begged and pulled on the heartstrings to get to the purse strings, living a cush McMansion lifestyle on the 'Gram and using it to further her influencer status, because of no life insurance, no dental. And then goes and waste important money on way too many gifts. A few extra hundreds of dollars saved right now would have been a very welcome investment in a college fund for the kids. And yes, of course, we don't know whether the kids don't have a decent-sized college fund, yadda yadda. I doubt it. She spends like a sieve under a running faucet. Also, I don't know a single family who's had this many gifts for Christmas ever. Holy excess. Holy fuck the environment, too. Call me the Grinch but I'm going with a big fat nope. The damage being done to the Dear Lizzy brand is irrepairable at this stage. Actually, I had nine siblings (and two parents) growing up...we had a LOT of presents under our tree...but not this much...
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Post by sleepingbooty on Dec 28, 2020 15:19:52 GMT
I put off looking so the raging bitch in me wouldn’t come out but looking-it’s not that bad for 4 kids and a grieving mom. I’m not saying material possession should equal love but if things bring them comfort right now, I can’t judge. I’m continually fighting the materialism bug. Things make me feel better in the moment but keep me from dealing with real issues. I’ll probably always battle that. I way over bought for my kids this year-our tree looked similar for 2 kids. I know I’m over compensating for my own sadness in life. I wanted to make this time magical and I succeeded. I do hope lizzys kids are finding comfort in the stuff. They raised at least 25,000. That is 5,000 per family member at least. Even overcompensating for Covid times that seems insanely excessive. As sleepingbooty said that is a lot of money that could have gone to paying for things that are necessary for their family. I still can't get over the fact that this family so equates love with material things. I can't even fathom wanting to live that way. And that's on top of the $319 025 raised so far on GFM and the amount of direct Venmo donations (going by the screenshots she's been posting, people have been donating "comfortable" amounts on there). We are likely at the half million dollar mark at this stage.
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Post by sam9 on Dec 28, 2020 15:39:45 GMT
This morning I'm seeing $20 bills for hiding in each kid's jean pocket being donated. I had to block her account to make myself stop looking. It's just too sad. Those kids did not look happy being put on display on Christmas morning, having to pretend to love that excess of stuff. I hope she really is starting therapy in January because she surely needs some grief counselling.
My mom's dad died when she was twelve. She well remembers the years of living with a mom who couldn't/wouldn't deal with her loss, coming home from school in the winter to a mom just sitting and crying in a totally dark house. At least the experience wasn't captured in images and shared on social media.
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Post by paperamy on Dec 29, 2020 7:11:17 GMT
Hiding the $20 in her kids clothes...if that makes her and them happy, then whatever. But making it a huge production on Instagram is just gross, as is the flaunting of the piles of presents.
My heart truly aches for these children. They lost their dad, and their mother is obsessed with instagramming their grief for views/money/sympathy.
Someone really needs to take her phone away from her. Let her children grieve in private.
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