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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 15:26:20 GMT
"Conspiracy theorists also overinflate the risk of stranger abductions, thereby minimizing the reality of child exploitation. Children are “virtually always” forced into sex trafficking by someone they know, says Polaris, a nonprofit that fights human trafficking. Stranger danger kidnappings are exceedingly rare, and there is simply no evidence that tens of thousands of small children are disappearing off America’s streets each year. According to the FBI’s crime statistics, 99.7% of the 609,000 people reported missing in 2019 were found.
Although Sorensen said in her video that she wasn’t interested in pressing charges, police said in a follow-up interview she did want the couple prosecuted for attempted kidnapping. Now, Petaluma police are investigating whether Sorensen herself will face hate crime or false report charges."
I hope so. I also hope the "not clean cut" family sue the pants off her for putting their lives in danger as their images appeared on the cult-y "save the children" sites.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 15:50:09 GMT
Statement by Sadie Martinez - the woman accused and investigated by police over this incident: " Hi, thank you everybody for coming today. I want to start with thanking everybody for coming today. Yes, it’s been an unpleasant circumstance, but the support in this community has been something amazing. The village in which I live, I thank all of you. Every single one of you children that has come out to support me today and their parents. This is kind of hard for me. I’m a pretty laid-back individual. I’m a mom of five in Petaluma. My husband’s a local UPS man. We’re just an everyday family. So to get up and go shopping one day and then be accused of trying to abduct somebody’s children is heartbreaking. In my home on a typical day I have numerous kids in and out of my house. I have kids sleeping in my home. I know more kids in this town than I know adults, so my heart was broken. My heart is broken. The Katies of the world, it stops here. I’m sorry, it’s not going on anymore. I think Katie thought that she could just pick on somebody or make up a story about people because she didn’t like what they looked like, and I don’t know if anybody’s been paying attention the last four years but there’s been a lot of racism going on, and well Katie’s following suit. So, am I shocked? No, but will we stand for it? Hell no. So, today I stand in front of everybody in a fight to prosecute Katie. That’s why I’m here. I ask everybody in my community and around the world that Katie has – hey, invited everybody to this wonderful story of hers, to step up, do your homework, go ahead [do] the research, follow through. Call your local police department. Call Facebook, Instagram, everybody, because do you really think it’s okay to go online and be racist and make [up] stories about a family? It’s hard enough to be a Latin family in a white community, that I don’t need white people coming around and telling me that I look like a criminal because I decided not to put my makeup on that day or because I decided to wear sweats to the craft store. With that being said, I hope that everybody around us will stop and look at the people around them and have that conversation, that uncomfortable conversation that nobody wants to have. Yes racism is alive and well in 2020. This is a perfect example of it. I feel like I’m sitting in Central Park like the bird-watcher. I don’t have any other comparison except that. I thank everybody for the support, I hope everybody will pursue Katie, because I think it’s time that Katie and all her followers are finally shut down and they realize that this is a world for everybody, and we will fight for ourselves. Once again, I thank every single one of you for coming, especially all the kids in town. Our lives are permanently affected, forever. The police did not touch on the fact that it was a racial situation and unfortunately we have targets on our backs because we were labeled [with] this regardless of what’s true or not. So I do hope that people take the time and look at the facts and see what really happened, instead of going around and bashing a longtime family of Petaluma. I thank all of you again for coming and I appreciate all of your support. " theraucousrooster.com/2020/12/19/dear-white-people-shopping-in-the-vicinity-of-people-of-color-in-petaluma/I'm not sure what "I hope everybody will pursue Katie" means and it's an overly broad term that is just as troubling as the original Katie allegations against the Martinez family. I agree its high time to "shut down" these types of allegations - but I don't think anybody should "pursue" anyone. The police are there for a reason and I hope they bring charges of false allegations against Katie. If they don't there are also civil court remedies. But no one should be "pursuing" anyone - we don't need vigilantes on any side running around w/their fever dreams of justice. |
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Post by inkedup on Dec 22, 2020 18:16:18 GMT
Statement by Sadie Martinez - the woman accused and investigated by police over this incident: " Hi, thank you everybody for coming today. I want to start with thanking everybody for coming today. Yes, it’s been an unpleasant circumstance, but the support in this community has been something amazing. The village in which I live, I thank all of you. Every single one of you children that has come out to support me today and their parents. This is kind of hard for me. I’m a pretty laid-back individual. I’m a mom of five in Petaluma. My husband’s a local UPS man. We’re just an everyday family. So to get up and go shopping one day and then be accused of trying to abduct somebody’s children is heartbreaking. In my home on a typical day I have numerous kids in and out of my house. I have kids sleeping in my home. I know more kids in this town than I know adults, so my heart was broken. My heart is broken. The Katies of the world, it stops here. I’m sorry, it’s not going on anymore. I think Katie thought that she could just pick on somebody or make up a story about people because she didn’t like what they looked like, and I don’t know if anybody’s been paying attention the last four years but there’s been a lot of racism going on, and well Katie’s following suit. So, am I shocked? No, but will we stand for it? Hell no. So, today I stand in front of everybody in a fight to prosecute Katie. That’s why I’m here. I ask everybody in my community and around the world that Katie has – hey, invited everybody to this wonderful story of hers, to step up, do your homework, go ahead [do] the research, follow through. Call your local police department. Call Facebook, Instagram, everybody, because do you really think it’s okay to go online and be racist and make [up] stories about a family? It’s hard enough to be a Latin family in a white community, that I don’t need white people coming around and telling me that I look like a criminal because I decided not to put my makeup on that day or because I decided to wear sweats to the craft store. With that being said, I hope that everybody around us will stop and look at the people around them and have that conversation, that uncomfortable conversation that nobody wants to have. Yes racism is alive and well in 2020. This is a perfect example of it. I feel like I’m sitting in Central Park like the bird-watcher. I don’t have any other comparison except that. I thank everybody for the support, I hope everybody will pursue Katie, because I think it’s time that Katie and all her followers are finally shut down and they realize that this is a world for everybody, and we will fight for ourselves. Once again, I thank every single one of you for coming, especially all the kids in town. Our lives are permanently affected, forever. The police did not touch on the fact that it was a racial situation and unfortunately we have targets on our backs because we were labeled [with] this regardless of what’s true or not. So I do hope that people take the time and look at the facts and see what really happened, instead of going around and bashing a longtime family of Petaluma. I thank all of you again for coming and I appreciate all of your support. " theraucousrooster.com/2020/12/19/dear-white-people-shopping-in-the-vicinity-of-people-of-color-in-petaluma/I'm not sure what "I hope everybody will pursue Katie" means and it's an overly broad term that is just as troubling as the original Katie allegations against the Martinez family. I agree its high time to "shut down" these types of allegations - but I don't think anybody should "pursue" anyone. The police are there for a reason and I hope they bring charges of false allegations against Katie. If they don't there are also civil court remedies. But no one should be "pursuing" anyone - we don't need vigilantes on any side running around w/their fever dreams of justice. I think she misspoke and assume the word or implication she was looking for is that people should push for Katie to be prosecuted. |
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Post by papersilly on Dec 22, 2020 19:15:40 GMT
i have a visceral reaction every time i read anything about Petaluma California because of the Polly Klas case.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 19:22:40 GMT
i have a visceral reaction every time i read anything about Petaluma California because of the Polly Klas case. I think that's what too many people react to. Instead of the facts of each individual case. |
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Post by slicksister on Dec 22, 2020 20:00:25 GMT
i have a visceral reaction every time i read anything about Petaluma California because of the Polly Klas case. Totally this for me. That was my instant reaction - Oh NO! Not again. |
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Post by nellej on Dec 22, 2020 21:17:12 GMT
That is disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 21:27:33 GMT
i have a visceral reaction every time i read anything about Petaluma California because of the Polly Klas case. Totally this for me. That was my instant reaction - Oh NO! Not again. I have little doubt this particular mom influencer knew about and took advantage of those "instant reactions" in her bs story. ps - In case she hasn't noticed Jeffrey Epstein was "clean cut". Ghislaine too. Children are FAR MORE at risk from people they and the family know AND TRUST than from strangers: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120413100854.htm |
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Post by ametallichick on Dec 23, 2020 8:08:21 GMT
I follow a mom on IG and she shared it. Pretty scary! Did you read the thread? The white woman imagined it, made it up, embellished it...whatever, but it didn’t happen. I’ve never heard of the woman “influencer.” I’ve always said I won’t let my kids have social media because kids have the power to use technology to ruin each other’s lives. It’s horrible that adults who should know better are wielding that power and even more disgusting that it’s done in the cloak of “PSA.” Nope. I saw the post and commented. I didn’t read the comments. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 15:39:36 GMT
Did you read the thread? The white woman imagined it, made it up, embellished it...whatever, but it didn’t happen. I’ve never heard of the woman “influencer.” I’ve always said I won’t let my kids have social media because kids have the power to use technology to ruin each other’s lives. It’s horrible that adults who should know better are wielding that power and even more disgusting that it’s done in the cloak of “PSA.” Nope. I saw the post and commented. I didn’t read the comments. What a unique way to go through life. And highly effective, I bet. |
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 23, 2020 16:39:20 GMT
Survivor of a childhood abduction gone wrong, here. He tried to kill me at the end, but it didn't go his way and I was released after a couple hours out of sheer luck. I'm telling you this, because I have really strong viewpoints about this. I read the article posted in this thread and am even angrier.
If you're going to accuse someone of kidnapping then you'd better mean it and take it seriously. Otherwise, it compromises the integrity of real kidnapping and sexual assault cases. I wanted to be heard and believed and that's hard to do when other people make false accusations. If it's just her paranoia then shame on her. Since I couldn't see the videos I don't know the truth, but I cringe when I hear that any child might be in danger. Childhood should be a safe place, free of terror. Unfortunately, for so many children that is not the case. Ok, I went on a tangent. When it comes to this subject I often do.
I'm stepping off of my soapbox. Sorry gang.
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Post by valincal on Dec 23, 2020 16:50:27 GMT
Big hugs scrapmaven. Thank you for sharing your story. I can’t imagine what you and your family want through. 😔 |
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 23, 2020 16:55:17 GMT
Big hugs scrapmaven . Thank you for sharing your story. I can’t imagine what you and your family want through. 😔 Thank you so much. Better living through adult therapy. I'm OK. I've had great support as an adult and now I can talk about it openly and hope that people will learn and always protect someone they see who is truly in danger. When it comes to children never turn the other way! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 18:35:21 GMT
There is nothing to be sorry about. Thank you for sharing. I am grateful for you and grateful you are here with us. Hug. |
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 23, 2020 18:38:49 GMT
Thank you so much @zingermack. ((((HUGS)))).
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Post by busy on Dec 23, 2020 18:38:57 GMT
Did you read the thread? The white woman imagined it, made it up, embellished it...whatever, but it didn’t happen. I’ve never heard of the woman “influencer.” I’ve always said I won’t let my kids have social media because kids have the power to use technology to ruin each other’s lives. It’s horrible that adults who should know better are wielding that power and even more disgusting that it’s done in the cloak of “PSA.” Nope. I saw the post and commented. I didn’t read the comments. And this is *exactly* why what she did should be criminal because too many people will presume the couple’s guilt and never read further. |
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 15, 2022 0:18:37 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 15, 2022 0:41:08 GMT
Glad there is a trial and hope it is successful!
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Post by Lexica on Apr 15, 2022 1:26:35 GMT
I remember watching this when it first came out and didn't believe a word of it. First, the woman didn't seem at all frazzled like she was claiming she was. Just watching her video you could tell she was making it up and going for maximum attention. If my children had almost been kidnapped, I would be talking directly to the police and not making a video "to warn others" about kidnapping. Let the police do that part if this was true. I would be in tears, holding onto my children, probably with snot running out of my nose and making the ugly cry face, not with dry eyes and not exhibiting any stress although she claimed she was almost too upset to warn us.
And what were these signs she wanted to warn us about? Don't shop near brown people? Did anyone actually put a hand on her stroller? And if they did, did she turn it over to the police to have fingerprinted? Why didn't she whip out her phone and record this couple in the act? How far away was she from her kids in their stroller that these strangers could get close enough to attempt to steal her kids? Why wasn't she watching them better? And did she scream?
And where is this elderly man (who I am betting was white if he does exist) who so bravely scared off these horrible brown people bent on taking her precious children? Has he spoken to the police? Did she thank him or offer him a reward for saving the lives of her kids? Get his license plate? If there was an elderly man, I bet he had no idea he was included in this story. He probably never noticed any of them.
People like this make me sick. I am happy to see the Petaluma DA has charged her.
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Post by tincin on Apr 15, 2022 4:29:00 GMT
I’m upset she was only charged with misdemeanors. I wonder if the people she falsely accused can sue her in civil court? I read the article and saw that Sadie has been very outspoken about being falsely accused. Good for her. Her husband, Eddie, who works for UPS, is such a nice guy that people he delivers packages to phoned the police to vouch for his character. I’d love for them to be able to have some good come out of this. I’ll bet to this day she can’t put her hair up on top of her head without being reminded of this incident.
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Post by 16joy on Apr 15, 2022 12:57:32 GMT
May she get the same sentence that Jussie Smollet received or more. She probably thought she’d get more followers which means more $. Shame on her. I hope 3 hot and a cot is coming her way
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Post by leeny on Apr 16, 2022 0:46:51 GMT
Glad there is a trial and hope it is successful! I agree. This happened in my County so I am curious to see what happens. |
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