QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 20:09:42 GMT
Today I went to the bank to deposit our stimulus check into my checking account. The check had both our names on it, but we don't have a joint account so DH told me to put it in mine. We both signed the check, and I went to the drive up window.
The teller said I couldn't deposit the check into my account because DH wasn't with me. She said I could cash it, but not deposit it. I didn't want that much cash, and the bank is just a couple minute drive from my house, so I told her I would come back with DH.
I collected DH and returned to the bank. The same teller helped me. She said, I still can't deposit the check into your account, but I can cash it and deposit the cash. Now, doing that had occured to me while I was getting DH and driving back. If that's what she had to do anyway, I wish she had suggested it on my first trip and saved me the bother of having to get DH and come back.
What really bothered me was that she didn't want any ID from DH. Just having a person in the car with me was all that was required. I even said, so I could have had any random guy in here and that would be enough, and she said yes. It made me wish I had a series of joint checks so I could test out increasingly obviously not my DH companions to see where they drew the line. What if I had another woman in the car? A small child? A dog? A giant teddy bear? What if I had said he was riding in the trunk?
I'm all for making sure people aren't being swindled out of their money. But the way this rule was enforced really wouldn't have prevented that.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 27, 2021 20:13:41 GMT
Now that is weird and annoying... I am all for security.. If they needed your DH, then they should be needing him for ID.. just because there is a man in the car? What does that do? And why can she give you cash but not deposit it? Another thing that doesn't make sense. Seems to me if you have the cash what could they do then. If you deposit it and something is wrong couldn't they pull the funds?
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Post by julie5 on Jan 27, 2021 20:18:07 GMT
Yeah same thing happens to us but I’m the one not on his account so we both sign and then I take it to the bank. I hand over my I’d and say I’m ok with depositing this check.
But that sounds like she was being arbitrary amd didn’t understand why that rule exists-for security. I would say something.
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Post by birukitty on Jan 27, 2021 20:18:26 GMT
It's extremely frustrating and crazy, isn't it?
We finally got our check yesterday. It has both our names on it and just like your family DH and I have separate accounts so DH called our bank to see what we would need to deposit it-would my signature on the back be enough? They said no, that we both had to come in person to the bank, sign it and get cash for it. We're planning on splitting it into our two accounts.
If your bank asked you for ID and not your DH that's absurd. I'll let you know if our bank asks both of us for our ID's when we go.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 27, 2021 20:26:37 GMT
Banks set their own policies for multi-party checks, but that one's just stupid - or was not enforced properly. I know several - Wells Fargo and Chase, for instance, require both parties to be there in person and present a government ID if it's not a joint account.
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Post by mayceesgranny on Jan 27, 2021 20:34:14 GMT
Weird - I mobile deposited our check. With both signatures on it and into a joint account.
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Post by cmpeter on Jan 27, 2021 20:37:12 GMT
I bet if you had deposited it via the ATM you wouldn't have had an issue.
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Post by garcia5050 on Jan 27, 2021 20:56:48 GMT
I work at a bank and that’s just insane. Some rules are just ridiculous. If they aren’t going to ID your DH, what’s the point? And wouldn’t cashing a check be riskier than depositing?? So many questions.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 27, 2021 20:57:52 GMT
I bet if you had deposited it via the ATM you wouldn't have had an issue. Or the app. This wasn’t Wells Fargo by any chance, was it. I have a huge rant about Wells Fargo that I will spare you from hearing.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 27, 2021 21:49:11 GMT
Oh when I get IRS checks in both of our names, we both sign and deposit through my app into my own account. Been doing that for years...
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 21:50:32 GMT
It's extremely frustrating and crazy, isn't it? We finally got our check yesterday. It has both our names on it and just like your family DH and I have separate accounts so DH called our bank to see what we would need to deposit it-would my signature on the back be enough? They said no, that we both had to come in person to the bank, sign it and get cash for it. We're planning on splitting it into our two accounts. If your bank asked you for ID and not your DH that's absurd. I'll let you know if our bank asks both of us for our ID's when we go. She didn't ask for ID from either of us. Since it was a deposit, I would have been a pretty poor scam artist to steal a check and deposit it in the owner's account! In the past with tax refund checks we have been told we both have to sign the check in front of them in person, but the last few years they haven't required that. And with our first stimulus check, we were both in the car but there wasn't anything about "we have to cash it and deposit the cash" they just did the deposit.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 21:55:43 GMT
I bet if you had deposited it via the ATM you wouldn't have had an issue. Or the app. This wasn’t Wells Fargo by any chance, was it. I have a huge rant about Wells Fargo that I will spare you from hearing. Not Wells Fargo, just a small local bank with a handful of branches. But rant if you like!
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 21:57:10 GMT
Yeah same thing happens to us but I’m the one not on his account so we both sign and then I take it to the bank. I hand over my I’d and say I’m ok with depositing this check. But that sounds like she was being arbitrary amd didn’t understand why that rule exists-for security. I would say something. This is interesting. Too bad DH doesn't have more of a unisex name, I could have pretended I was him depositing the money into my account, since they weren't checking IDs anyway!
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Post by pilcas on Jan 27, 2021 21:58:06 GMT
Now not being able to deposit it but being able to cash it is just ridiculous.
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Post by AllieC on Jan 27, 2021 22:20:04 GMT
I'm just gobsmacked that checks are still being used for things like this! It's probably 20 years since any official government money in Australia has been paid like this.
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Post by birukitty on Jan 27, 2021 22:30:40 GMT
I'm just gobsmacked that checks are still being used for things like this! It's probably 20 years since any official government money in Australia has been paid like this. I agree! Last time we got our stimulus check it came by direct deposit into DH's account which was much easier to deal with. This time because DH used Turbo Tax to do our taxes last year the government sent us a paper check-such a hassle because we now have to both go to our bank in person during a pandemic-and our state is one of the 20 states who now have the strain of Covid that is 70% easier to catch. I would have much preferred it to be direct deposited like last time. I shouldn't really complain though.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 22:32:49 GMT
I'm just gobsmacked that checks are still being used for things like this! It's probably 20 years since any official government money in Australia has been paid like this. I'm assuming it's direct deposited? What happens with people who don't have bank accounts, or in my case, don't have a joint account?
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Post by Linda on Jan 27, 2021 22:58:51 GMT
I'm assuming it's direct deposited? What happens with people who don't have bank accounts, or in my case, don't have a joint account? US here but our stimulus money was direct deposited both times - as are our tax refunds. We have separate accounts but the stimulus money went into the account we used for our tax refunds which was DH's
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Post by bianca42 on Jan 27, 2021 23:01:43 GMT
The last tax refund I received, I signed DH and my name, walked into the lobby and deposited it into our joint account. She asked if I had a photocopy of DH driver’s license. Since I didn’t she said they would have to do a signature verification. I panicked a little bit and then she said it matches. 😳 I told DH that my version of his signature is what’s on file at the bank. Hopefully he doesn’t need to do anything without me.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 23:02:57 GMT
I'm assuming it's direct deposited? What happens with people who don't have bank accounts, or in my case, don't have a joint account? US here but our stimulus money was direct deposited both times - as are our tax refunds. We have separate accounts but the stimulus money went into the account we used for our tax refunds which was DH's That's interesting. We were told in order to use direct deposit for our tax refunds we had to have a joint account.
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Post by Linda on Jan 27, 2021 23:12:30 GMT
US here but our stimulus money was direct deposited both times - as are our tax refunds. We have separate accounts but the stimulus money went into the account we used for our tax refunds which was DH's That's interesting. We were told in order to use direct deposit for our tax refunds we had to have a joint account. We've never had joint accounts (married 21+ yrs) and we've had direct deposit for as long as I can remember - back to the days when I filed on paper. I do the returns myself (using online software now but on paper before) rather than use a professional. I've never heard of that being an issue.
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Post by jenb72 on Jan 27, 2021 23:29:08 GMT
Weird - I mobile deposited our check. With both signatures on it and into a joint account. DH did the same with ours - but we have separate accounts. He banks with Regions. I don't. We both signed the check and he mobile deposited it into his account. Didn't have a single issue. Jen
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Post by jenb72 on Jan 27, 2021 23:32:38 GMT
That's interesting. We were told in order to use direct deposit for our tax refunds we had to have a joint account. We've never had joint accounts (married 21+ yrs) and we've had direct deposit for as long as I can remember - back to the days when I filed on paper. I do the returns myself (using online software now but on paper before) rather than use a professional. I've never heard of that being an issue. Same here. DH and I have separate accounts at completely separate banks. We've never combined. I file our taxes (jointly) and the money is deposited into my checking account when a refund is due - by that point we've normally decided how we're going to use it or save it and we deal with it accordingly. The first stimulous check direct deposited into my account like our taxes. The second one actually came as a paper check. DH deposited that one into his account (via mobile) after we both signed it. Jen
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Post by Montannie on Jan 27, 2021 23:38:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 23:39:20 GMT
I'm just gobsmacked that checks are still being used for things like this! It's probably 20 years since any official government money in Australia has been paid like this. I'm assuming it's direct deposited? What happens with people who don't have bank accounts, or in my case, don't have a joint account? Don’t know about Australia but we don’t have joint taxes here in the uk. If that happened here each of you as taxpayers would get a direct deposit into your own bank account for your own portion. Your cheque would be useless here as the bank account would have had to be in joint names to pay that cheque in....no signing over to anyone else here and certainly not exchanged for cash.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 27, 2021 23:52:07 GMT
I'll try that next time just to see the look on her face!
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Post by littlemama on Jan 28, 2021 0:03:24 GMT
When dh and I got married, our credit union didnt want to let me deposit any checks made out to mr AND mrs. (Side note, always make checks out to mr OR mrs). I borrowed a pen from my gramma, who was with me, signed his name to them and deposited them in the ATM.
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Post by samantha25 on Jan 28, 2021 0:09:39 GMT
Couldn't you go back through the drive through and then deposit the cash? Lol
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Post by KiwiJo on Jan 28, 2021 0:15:13 GMT
I'm just gobsmacked that checks are still being used for things like this! It's probably 20 years since any official government money in Australia has been paid like this. I'm assuming it's direct deposited? What happens with people who don't have bank accounts, or in my case, don't have a joint account? I haven’t used a cheque for decades, haven’t even had a cheque book for decades. I don’t think I know anyone who uses cheques, can’t remember the last time I saw anyone paying for groceries etc with a cheque. But to answer your questions.... Pretty well all money going directly from our government to a person is direct credited to their nominated bank account; and yes, that does make it difficult for people with no bank account of course. By far most people here do have a bank account, but there are some who don’t; often they are homeless, or recently out of prison, or in extreme poverty etc. Without a bank account, there is usually no way for them to receive any benefits they are entitled to. This recognised by the authorities of course, and can sometimes be overcome. For example in some instances, the “City Mission” (or similar) helps the homeless by providing a financial service that receives their benefits and converts it to cash for them, helps with budgeting etc. In some instances, the benefit is distributed as pre-paid cards which the person can use to pay for things. I doubt there are many wages that are not direct credited here - maybe a few, but most people get paid by their employer transferring the money directly into their bank account. Much easier for everyone, and never a delay in waiting for a cheque to arrive, or waiting for it to be cleared. It all happens instantly. But your question about when couples don’t have joint accounts - that simply would not be an issue at all. I cannot imagine any instance where a government payment would be made out to a couple - every person is treated as an individual and gets their entitlement individually. Even if the assets as a couple had to be taken into account, each person would get their own share of what was due to them, and what they do with it is up to them. They can nominate any bank account, in any name(s) for it to be paid into.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jan 28, 2021 0:21:55 GMT
I'm assuming it's direct deposited? What happens with people who don't have bank accounts, or in my case, don't have a joint account? I haven’t used a cheque for decades, haven’t even had a cheque book for decades. I don’t think I know anyone who uses cheques, can’t remember the last time I saw anyone paying for groceries etc with a cheque. But to answer your questions.... Pretty well all money going directly from our government to a person is direct credited to their nominated bank account; and yes, that does make it difficult for people with no bank account of course. By far most people here do have a bank account, but there are some who don’t; often they are homeless, or recently out of prison, or in extreme poverty etc. Without a bank account, there is usually no way for them to receive any benefits they are entitled to. This recognised by the authorities of course, and can sometimes be overcome. For example in some instances, the “City Mission” (or similar) helps the homeless by providing a financial service that receives their benefits and converts it to cash for them, helps with budgeting etc. In some instances, the benefit is distributed as pre-paid cards which the person can use to pay for things. I doubt there are many wages that are not direct credited here - maybe a few, but most people get paid by their employer transferring the money directly into their bank account. Much easier for everyone, and never a delay in waiting for a cheque to arrive, or waiting for it to be cleared. It all happens instantly. But your question about when couples don’t have joint accounts - that simply would not be an issue at all. I cannot imagine any instance where a government payment would be made out to a couple - every person is treated as an individual and gets their entitlement individually. Even if the assets as a couple had to be taken into account, each person would get their own share of what was due to them, and what they do with it is up to them. They can nominate any bank account, in any name(s) for it to be paid into. Thanks for taking the time for such a detailed answer. I always like learning about how other countries are different in such basic ways.
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