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Post by Mel on Mar 18, 2021 21:43:30 GMT
Cricut Dear Cricut Members,
On Friday, March 12, we announced an intention to limit the number of personal images and patterns that members can upload to Design Space without a Cricut Access subscription. We updated this plan on March 16 and shared that we intended to study the matter further. My team has spent the week listening, learning, and taking in a lot of feedback. Not every decision we make is perfect, but we take every opportunity to learn and get better. So, we’ve made the decision to reverse our previously shared plans. Right now, every member can upload an unlimited number of images and patterns to Design Space for free, and we have no intention to change this policy. This is true whether you’re a current Cricut member or are thinking about joining the Cricut family before or after December 31, 2021. We care deeply about every single member of our community, and it’s your creativity that keeps us motivated, excited, and passionate every day about what we’re building here at Cricut.
Thank you for your candor and your commitment to our company and community. We appreciate you. ashish arora (Cricut ceo) March 18, 2021
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cbscrapper
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Post by cbscrapper on Mar 19, 2021 18:19:44 GMT
“Thank you for your candor” makes me think of Divergent. 🤣
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Post by papersilly on Mar 20, 2021 1:13:44 GMT
call me skeptical but i think they'll find another way to get that subscription $$$.
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 20, 2021 4:10:44 GMT
call me skeptical but i think they'll find another way to get that subscription $$$. All they have to do is make it more appealing, then everyone wins. They were essentially trying to force users to get the sub, which is why everyone got upset.
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Post by Embri on Mar 20, 2021 7:51:28 GMT
call me skeptical but i think they'll find another way to get that subscription $$$. All they have to do is make it more appealing, then everyone wins. They were essentially trying to force users to get the sub, which is why everyone got upset. That would require applying common sense to the problem, which Provo Craft seems to be allergic to.
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Post by peachiceteas on Mar 20, 2021 10:10:51 GMT
I really like Cricut Access and don't have a problem paying for it if the content is good. I cancelled my subscription as I didn't find myself creating many of the projects on a regular basis. But I love how easy it is to find and make projects.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 20, 2021 12:17:02 GMT
This whole thing has convinced me that I definitely don’t need a Joy. Sorry, I’m too used to doing as I darn well please with my silhouette why would I accept constraints like that?
Maybe silhouette will introduce a small machine.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 20, 2021 16:22:28 GMT
call me skeptical but i think they'll find another way to get that subscription $$$. All they have to do is make it more appealing, then everyone wins. They were essentially trying to force users to get the sub, which is why everyone got upset. you know what they say.... you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people, all of the time.
there will always be grumblers and some of those grumblers will grumble loud. it's those grumblers that might turn off any new users. but i agree, if you throw enough incentives at it, you may get a good number of people on board. i thought the unlimited uploads given under the proposed subscriptions was a pretty good incentive but i guess not. i don't know what else they could throw in but i guess we'll see. i don't have a cricut myself but i know many who do. my only skin in the game is what one company does, other's will always follow.
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Post by scrappermcg on Mar 20, 2021 20:18:42 GMT
This whole thing has convinced me that I definitely don’t need a Joy. Sorry, I’m too used to doing as I darn well please with my silhouette why would I accept constraints like that? Maybe silhouette will introduce a small machine. Silhouette's portrait is about twice the size of the joy, it does everything the joy can plus you can print and cut. It also has a bigger cut area. I don't need to upload and save my designs, never asked for that service from Cricut. They just need to make standalone software for their machines, IMO.
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Post by wendifful on Mar 20, 2021 20:40:55 GMT
This whole thing has convinced me that I definitely don’t need a Joy. Sorry, I’m too used to doing as I darn well please with my silhouette why would I accept constraints like that? Maybe silhouette will introduce a small machine. Silhouette's portrait is about twice the size of the joy, it does everything the joy can plus you can print and cut. It also has a bigger cut area. I don't need to upload and save my designs, never asked for that service from Cricut. They just need to make standalone software for their machines, IMO. I have seen how excited many Peas got about the small size of the Joy and also wondered about Silhouette releasing a similar machine, but after thinking more about it, I don't think Silhouette will do so. I completely get that the small footprint and portability of the Joy can be a plus, but it has so many limitations due to its size. Right now, the Silhouette Portrait is $200 and the 12" Cameo 4 is $300. I think part of the price difference there can be attributed to the Cameo 4's increased motor capabilities for its second tool carriage. If Silhouette released a smaller machine, many of the most expensive parts (motor, motherboard, etc) would still need to exist. It seems that the only thing (materials wise) that would cost less would be how much plastic is used in the width. Although in general I think Cricut charges a premium for their products, I think their pricing of the Joy reflects the fact that even a smaller machine is expensive to produce. These are all just my speculations, but I can't really see Silhouette releasing a smaller machine than the Portrait, because it seems like it would have to be priced quite a bit lower to make sense to Silhouette customers. If I can get a machine that cuts 8.5x11 for $200, would I spend $150 for a machine that can only cut 4" wide? In that scenario, I personally would only be willing to pay $99 or less for a 4" Silhouette. I also think that Cricut has a track record of releasing trendy machines and discontinuing them and Silhouette, although not perfect, really stands behind their machines. I do think that part of the appeal of the Joy is that it's small and cute...not that it's the most functional. I'm not saying some crafters wouldn't get their use out of it, I personally just don't see it being a machine that is still being used regularly in ten years. (And I'm speaking as someone who has had my Cameo 1 for ten years and am still cutting with it today!) Now, I absolutely think that Silhouette should improve their mobile app so that the Portrait can be used with only the app, which would be a great way to compete with the Joy. (I know you can send cut jobs with only the app, but from what I've read, it's not great for designing. I think the simplicity of just using your phone + a machine is really appealing, so Silhouette should jump on that.)
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Post by hop2 on Mar 20, 2021 22:35:45 GMT
This whole thing has convinced me that I definitely don’t need a Joy. Sorry, I’m too used to doing as I darn well please with my silhouette why would I accept constraints like that? Maybe silhouette will introduce a small machine. Silhouette's portrait is about twice the size of the joy, it does everything the joy can plus you can print and cut. It also has a bigger cut area. I don't need to upload and save my designs, never asked for that service from Cricut. They just need to make standalone software for their machines, IMO. I have a cameo so the littleness of the joy sparked my interest a bit, but I’ve felt all along that the price was too high for what it was. So I haven’t bought one. It was the ability to use it from my phone that attracted me to the idea of the joy, a quick word cut or something like that & not have to drag out me computer. But this controversy has made me rethink that as I doubt there will be any great sale prior to the limitations being in place. It’s constraining in that some months you’ll need more than 20 and other months you might not have 20, they didn’t mention if you could ‘rollover’ any unused uploads, but even so it seems like a big hassle for crafters to monitor all that. Just a weird thing to do.
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scrapnnana
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Post by scrapnnana on Mar 22, 2021 10:31:47 GMT
All they have to do is make it more appealing, then everyone wins. They were essentially trying to force users to get the sub, which is why everyone got upset. you know what they say.... you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people, all of the time.
there will always be grumblers and some of those grumblers will grumble loud. it's those grumblers that might turn off any new users. but i agree, if you throw enough incentives at it, you may get a good number of people on board. i thought the unlimited uploads given under the proposed subscriptions was a pretty good incentive but i guess not. i don't know what else they could throw in but i guess we'll see. i don't have a cricut myself but i know many who do. my only skin in the game is what one company does, other's will always follow. Since users haven’t had any limits to their uploads before, it was taking away something they’ve had all along unless they subscribed, which is the issue that upset people. Those who use it for educational purposes or for a business, suddenly felt like they had had the rug yanked out from under them. Cricut apparently thought that offering the long hoped for offset function would be enough incentive. Not to me. Offset is a very basic feature, that most graphic design programs include with no strings attached. Since Cricut users have been asking for it for literally years, to have it tied to a subscription, plus limiting uploads (which had never been an issue before) was stupid and unreasonable. However, Cricut has backed off on the limited uploads, at least for now. When I said they should make their subscription more appealing, I was thinking more along the lines of the Silhouette sub, which allows me to buy designs of my choice for pennies on the dollar. I pay $12 to buy $150 in designs that are to my taste. Temporary use of a large pool of designs at about $10/month is more expensive for me than paying the price of a few files for my current project. I’ve bought a few Cricut Disney designs while working on a Disney album (but not that many), and even at $1/file, it was less expensive than subscribing for one month to Cricut Access. Disney files are not included with Cricut Access, anyway. I’ve had a Silhouette subscription for years and have more files than I will ever use, simply because their sub appealed to me, while Cricut’s did not. My Silhouette sub also lets me buy the SVG version of the file if I choose, which I can then import into the Cricut software. That would have been an issue with the proposed change in uploads. Buying the SVG of a Silhouette file costs me additional credits, but it is only useful if it is (1) leather I want to cut or (2) extremely detailed. The Explore does cut finer details than my Cameo, and while the Cameo can reportedly cut leather, I’ve done it with my Explore. My Cameo will do as well as my Explore for everything else. I don’t care for the Cricut Design software much, either. I view it with only slightly less distaste as their business practices over the years.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 22, 2021 17:23:16 GMT
Since users haven’t had any limits to their uploads before, it was taking away something they’ve had all along unless they subscribed, which is the issue that upset people. Those who use it for educational purposes or for a business, suddenly felt like they had had the rug yanked out from under them. Cricut apparently thought that offering the long hoped for offset function would be enough incentive. Not to me. at the very least, it's a tax write off for them like their other business and work expenses. but i get what you are saying. for some (maybe most) users, $120/year may become a struggle and deal breaker. still, nothing stays the same. machines designs evolve, designs evolve, and so will the terms of use for the machines. i still think they will find a way to get more subs. people may not like it but enough people will buy into it.
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