wellway
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Post by wellway on Mar 26, 2021 16:28:32 GMT
Anyone else following the story of the cargo ship stuck sideways in the Suez Canal? Nothing can get by, lots of tug boats and dredgers being used to try and free it from a sandbank. Ships backing up behind it. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-56538653
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Mar 26, 2021 16:32:35 GMT
Yes, I'm concerned about the ramifications of this on the global supply chain.
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Post by Belle on Mar 26, 2021 16:36:03 GMT
Yes, I have been following. Imagine the cost of sending all those waiting ships around Africa? 9 additional days of sailing plus fuel.
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Post by hop2 on Mar 26, 2021 16:38:45 GMT
Yes I’ve been following it since I think Wednesday? ( the days this week are all a blur ) it’s interesting.
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Post by gar on Mar 26, 2021 16:42:55 GMT
There is a picture of a guy on a digger, dwarfed by the cargo ship, working on freeing it and a caption about “in the end we still need manual labourers” 😊
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Post by wellway on Mar 26, 2021 16:51:15 GMT
My first thought was "you have a bad day at work and the whole world can see it on a satellite image"
The size of these cargo ships is quite staggering, this stuck one is as long as the Empire State Building is high.
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Post by gar on Mar 26, 2021 16:52:31 GMT
Male drivers huh? 😉
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 26, 2021 17:22:07 GMT
The construction vehicle looks like a mini miniature!
Loosing S400 million an hour!!
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Post by jlynnbarth on Mar 26, 2021 17:44:47 GMT
Yes, I've been following it. Such an unfortunate situation. I hope that they are able to get it freed with the higher tide that is coming, if not before.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 26, 2021 18:16:54 GMT
It is an amazing story on so many levels. We may have learned about the importance of the canal to international shipping and trade way back in school at some point and never given it a second thought. It is really incredible that these monster vessels usually slip through without a hitch.
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Post by rodeomom on Mar 26, 2021 18:20:45 GMT
One more reason to be prepared.
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Mar 26, 2021 18:33:47 GMT
Yes, I’ve been following this. I find it fascinating that this one ship got stuck and all of the downstream impacts it’s having. Plus, that ship is just HUGE.
My dh is making fun of me because I am following the progress (or lack thereof). I’m not sure why I find it so fascinating, but I do.
There are so many ships that use that canal and there is going to be a supply chain impact. I’m hoping they can free the ship soon so that the negative impact is minimized.
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Post by oh yvonne on Mar 26, 2021 18:45:03 GMT
oh man, that's what that was about! Made a Trader Joe's run this morning and they had a big sign saying that only one bouquet of flowers due to a shortage of some kind and I heard a woman remark something about the Suez Canal. I didn't ask but I was puzzled, I mean, we have acres upon acres of flower fields out here in So Cal so I wondered about it.
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Post by JavaJones on Mar 26, 2021 18:53:09 GMT
It looks like there are not only shortages looming, but shipping charges are doubling and there are fears that the re-routed ships will be targets for piracy. Here is a Washington Post story from today:
Piracy fears mount as ships take long way around Africa to avoid blocked Suez Canal by Antonia Noori Farzan
The Ever Given, one of the largest container ships ever built, has been stuck in the canal since Tuesday, creating an increasingly expensive traffic jam on both sides of the waterway that connects Asia to Europe. Some tankers have already opted to change course and travel around the southern tip of Africa instead, adding weeks to their journeys and raising fears that the valuable cargo could be an appealing target in a region known for piracy.
“It just shows you how vulnerable our supply-chain lines are,” said Guy Platten, secretary general for the U.K.-based International Chamber of Shipping.
On Friday morning, the canal’s service provider, Leth Agencies, said in a tweet that the Ever Given “remains grounded in the same position” with tugboats and dredgers working to dislodge the vessel, which is blocking the flow of an estimated $12 billion in goods.
Meanwhile, the Japanese owner of the ship expressed hope that it could be freed by Saturday night. Yukito Higaki, president of Shoei Kisen Kaisha, apologized Friday for the “great trouble and concern,” adding that “we want to work hard and get the situation back to normal,” according to the Japanese financial news website Nikkei Asia.
Egypt’s Suez Canal Authority said Friday afternoon that its dredging operations were roughly 87 percent complete, but navigational safety regulations prevented the dredging ship from moving too close to the Ever Given. Other methods of removing the sand will be deployed, the authority said, without specifying what that might entail.
With some experts predicting that freeing the ship could take weeks, some global shipping companies on Friday began seeking alternative routes for their cargo.
“We’re now beginning to see even vessels that had entered the Mediterranean hang a U-turn,” Lars Jensen, the CEO of Denmark-based SeaIntelligence Consulting, told The Washington Post. “That’s an indication that they don’t believe this is going to be solved in the short term.”
At least seven tankers carrying liquefied natural gas were diverted, including three steered toward the longer route to Europe via the Cape of Good Hope in southern Africa. Another nine tankers were expected to be diverted if the blockage continues into the weekend, an analyst for data intelligence firm Kpler told the Guardian newspaper.
At least four long-range oil tankers with the capacity to haul 75,000 tons of oil were also possibly headed around the Cape of Good Hope, London-based ship brokering firm Braemar ACM told Reuters, adding that shipping rates have nearly doubled this week “as the market starts to price in fewer vessels being available in the region.”
According to the ship-tracking service Marine Traffic, at least three container ships have changed their routes in the past hours, including a ship traveling from Malaysia to Europe and another one heading from Great Britain to Thailand, “adding a further 25 days” to their arrival time.
A third container ship was about to pass the Strait of Gibraltar “before turning around to travel around Africa on its journey towards Singapore.”
Detouring around Africa is likely to add a week or two to most ships’ journeys, depending on where they were when they decided to change course. It will also mean hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional fuel costs, putting ship operators in a difficult place where they’re forced to guess if the extra time and expenditure will pay off.
With more ships potentially being diverted to the Cape of Good Hope, piracy could increase. Pirates have long preyed on ships moving in the waters off the Horn of Africa, and the seas off oil-rich West Africa are now considered among the world’s most dangerous for shipping.
Over the past two days, the U.S. Navy said it has been contacted by shipping firms from multiple nations concerned about the heightened risks of piracy to ships being rerouted, a spokesperson for the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet based in Bahrain told the Financial Times.
The Ever Given, which is operated by Taiwan-based Evergreen Marine Corp., was headed to Netherlands on Tuesday when it ran aground in the 120-mile-long passage from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean during a dust storm. Exactly how the stranding occurred remains unclear, but experts have speculated that the containers stacked atop the ship could have acted like a massive sail propelling the boat forward in high winds.
Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement, which is responsible for managing the ship’s crew and maintenance, has said that an investigation into the incident is underway. But officials have yet to release any details, including who has been questioned. Typically, Suez-based pilots guide the ship through the narrow passage, and the management company has said that two pilots were on board when the boat ran aground.
Continued failure to dislodge the ship could become a source of embarrassment for Egypt, where the canal and its pivotal role in global trade is a source of national pride. The country spent $8 billion to widen the canal in 2015, but only in selected areas, and not in the section where the Ever Given ran aground.
With more than 150 other ships stuck in the bottleneck, moving the Ever Given will only create a new set of headaches. Many of those vessels will arrive in European ports at the same time, and find they have nowhere to dock and unload their cargo.
“Once you open the canal, it’s like ketchup out of a ketchup bottle,” Jensen said.
The unprecedented pileup “would be an annoyance but manageable” under normal circumstances, he added. But the global supply chain was already severely stressed by the coronavirus pandemic, leaving little room for error. Consumers shouldn’t expect to see empty store shelves, but extended delays could mean the specific item they’re looking for isn’t in stock.
And while most consumer goods passing through the Suez Canal are headed from China to Europe, the cascading chain of dominos will eventually reach America too. “We’re all connected globally,” Platten said. “A delay in one area will lead to another delay.”
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Post by aj2hall on Mar 26, 2021 20:25:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 20:47:33 GMT
Yes. Have been following. Very important commercially.
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Post by Megan on Mar 26, 2021 21:23:30 GMT
Saw this on reddit
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Post by gar on Mar 28, 2021 16:39:17 GMT
It's still stuck! They failed to refloat it yesterday at high tide as was hoped, although it has moved to some degree thanks to lots of tugs! So now they're talking about taking off some cargo to lighten it...I'm surprised that hasn't been done already to be honest. BBC
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 28, 2021 16:49:39 GMT
As a Mediterranean, this is a major story. It impacted harbours all around this sea straight away. There's even IKEA furniture stuck in there. I feel terrible for the livestock, especially. 130 000 sheep are waiting for traffic to resume. Yikes.
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Post by gar on Mar 28, 2021 16:50:47 GMT
As a Mediterranean, this is a major story. It impacted harbours all around this sea straight away. There's even IKEA furniture stuck in there. I feel terrible for the livestock, especially. 130 000 sheep are waiting for traffic to resume. Yikes. The knock on effects are huge aren't they, especially with supply chains being difficult anyway. Imagine being responsible for it
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 28, 2021 16:58:19 GMT
As a Mediterranean, this is a major story. It impacted harbours all around this sea straight away. There's even IKEA furniture stuck in there. I feel terrible for the livestock, especially. 130 000 sheep are waiting for traffic to resume. Yikes. The knock on effects are huge aren't they, especially with supply chains being difficult anyway. Imagine being responsible for it Someone's gonna get fired, that's for sure... Did you hear how this could lead to The Great Toilet Paper Crisis 2.0? There's talk of significantly lower TP deliveries around the world due to this. There was already trouble with the amount of cargo ships they could find for TP (a lot of toilet paper is manufactured in South America) with the change in cargo distribution due to the lingering pandemic but this could very well be the cherry on top of the literal shit cake.
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Post by gar on Mar 28, 2021 17:01:36 GMT
The knock on effects are huge aren't they, especially with supply chains being difficult anyway. Imagine being responsible for it Someone's gonna get fired, that's for sure... Did you hear how this could lead to The Great Toilet Paper Crisis 2.0? There's talk of significantly lower TP deliveries around the world due to this. There was already trouble with the amount of cargo ships they could find for TP (a lot of toilet paper is manufactured in South America) with the change in cargo distribution due to the lingering pandemic but this could very well be the cherry on top of the literal shit cake. Oh god...not again!
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Post by Rhondito on Mar 28, 2021 17:16:45 GMT
It's going to affect e v e r y t h i n g. Think of how hard it is to get some products now because of Covid, and it's about to get worse. What a nightmare.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 28, 2021 17:30:25 GMT
Americans should have plenty of TP as it is made in the US.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 17:34:59 GMT
Okay so high winds, poor visibility due to sand storm.
Don't these huge ships have technology to assist with that?
It was in a straight area.
To me something seems off...
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Post by sleepingbooty on Mar 28, 2021 17:42:25 GMT
Americans should have plenty of TP as it is made in the US. It's not the actual TP but the TP paste. Brazil is the world's number 1 TP paste manufacturer and distributor. One third of the world's TP paste comes from Brazil. That's the issue here.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 28, 2021 17:42:58 GMT
MSNBC: It has only been moved 100 feet. Just mentioned that they are now considering off-loading containers.. I did not hear how many may be necessary.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Mar 28, 2021 17:46:07 GMT
It's still stuck! They failed to refloat it yesterday at high tide as was hoped, although it has moved to some degree thanks to lots of tugs! So now they're talking about taking off some cargo to lighten it...I'm surprised that hasn't been done already to be honest. BBCThe problem is they don't have floatable cranes they can easily get there THAT HAVE THE CAPABILITY to reach the top of those container stacks and you have to get the top ones off first. duh
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Post by scrappinghappy on Mar 28, 2021 17:51:48 GMT
Okay so high winds, poor visibility due to sand storm. Don't these huge ships have technology to assist with that? It was in a straight area. To me something seems off... Not saying this is what happened but those high stacks of containers can act like a sail in the wind. Have also read there may have been human error that compounded this along with potential technical issues. As one can imagine, adjustments in steering must be pretty slow to take effect in something this big moving this slowly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 17:52:46 GMT
Okay so high winds, poor visibility due to sand storm. Don't these huge ships have technology to assist with that? It was in a straight area. To me something seems off... They do have pilot boats to guide them. The biggest problem is the size of it. Not only is is very long but also very wide. It had very little leeway to get through because of it’s width I would imagine that the smallest of movement would have a big impact when you have no spare room each side of it.
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