pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Apr 26, 2021 16:12:10 GMT
I shouldn't be shocked but this is so offensive and yet it rolls off republicans tongues so easily. So white people fleeing religious prosecution "birthed a nation from nothing"? Let's just forget they did it by breaking one of those holy commandments. They stole the land from Native Americans!
Religion...the root of all evil in this world. Honestly, I wish nothing but pain and misery for white republicans. They are pure evil.
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Post by femalebusiness on Apr 26, 2021 16:22:14 GMT
Absolutely disgusting that sewage flowing out of his yap.
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 26, 2021 16:29:50 GMT
Funny thing, my 15-year-old was just asking me "how bad was Santorum?" I guess it's a present-tense question, actually.
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Post by peatlejuice on Apr 26, 2021 16:33:42 GMT
Here's the full context of the quote. It actually makes the quote worse, IMO. www.mediamatters.org/rick-santorum/cnns-rick-santorum-there-isnt-much-native-american-culture-american-cultureRICK SANTORUM (SPEAKER): If you think about this country, I don't know of any other country in the world that was settled predominately by people who were coming to practice their faith. They came here because they were not allowed to practice their particular faith in their own country. And so they came here, mostly from Europe, and they set up a country that was based on Judeo-Christian principles -- when I say Judeo-Christian, the Mosaic laws, 10 Commandments, and the teachings of Jesus Christ, the morals and teachings of Jesus Christ. That's what our founding documents are based upon. It's in our DNA. You know, if you think of other countries like Italy and Greece and China, Turkey and places like that, they've all, sort of, changed over time. I mean, they've been there for millennia in many cases. And their culture has, sort of, evolved over time. But not us. We came here and created a blank slate. We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture. It was born of the people who came here pursuing religious liberty to practice their faith, to live as they ought to live, and have the freedom to do so. Religious liberty. Those are the two bulwarks of America. Faith and freedom. I mean, you hear it all the time about faith and freedom, faith and freedom. But it is what makes America unique in the world.
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Post by pierogi on Apr 26, 2021 16:52:33 GMT
Here's the full context of the quote. It actually makes the quote worse, IMO. www.mediamatters.org/rick-santorum/cnns-rick-santorum-there-isnt-much-native-american-culture-american-cultureRICK SANTORUM (SPEAKER): If you think about this country, I don't know of any other country in the world that was settled predominately by people who were coming to practice their faith. They came here because they were not allowed to practice their particular faith in their own country. And so they came here, mostly from Europe, and they set up a country that was based on Judeo-Christian principles -- when I say Judeo-Christian, the Mosaic laws, 10 Commandments, and the teachings of Jesus Christ, the morals and teachings of Jesus Christ. That's what our founding documents are based upon. It's in our DNA. You know, if you think of other countries like Italy and Greece and China, Turkey and places like that, they've all, sort of, changed over time. I mean, they've been there for millennia in many cases. And their culture has, sort of, evolved over time. But not us. We came here and created a blank slate. We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture. It was born of the people who came here pursuing religious liberty to practice their faith, to live as they ought to live, and have the freedom to do so. Religious liberty. Those are the two bulwarks of America. Faith and freedom. I mean, you hear it all the time about faith and freedom, faith and freedom. But it is what makes America unique in the world. Yeah, that's part of genocide. Not just killing people of a specific ethnic group, but stomping out their culture and language as well. Like when they forced Indian children into boarding schools, forcibly converted them, and beat them when they spoke their language. Their saying was "kill the Indian to save the Man." Christian values, y'all.
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Post by ntsf on Apr 26, 2021 16:54:55 GMT
If you read (do these guys read?) errand into the wilderness by perry.. he makes a very good case that the pilgrims did not come for religious freedom over all.. look at the heretics they kicked out... they came to show the world the "right way" to live.. their faith was pure and best and no one should dissent from that. not freedom to do what you want. all the sermons 10-20 yrs later are about how the next generation didn't subscribe to this, were out to make money and you know.. the youth are not good!!
so not only did they "conquer land".. they were righteous and rigid. the land by cape cod was mostly empty as many of the natives had died from previously introduced diseases.. from white people. there was a lot of conflict between the tribes at that time.
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Post by Zee on Apr 26, 2021 17:05:25 GMT
There is nothing "free" about Puritanism, particularly if you're a woman. The same is true of most religions.
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Post by catck on Apr 26, 2021 17:07:21 GMT
Wow, how the Republicans love to rewrite history. The native Americans were here with their beliefs and culture and they were massacred, hunted and forcibly removed from their lands.
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Post by rune2484 on Apr 26, 2021 17:10:31 GMT
Funny thing, my 15-year-old was just asking me "how bad was Santorum?" I guess it's a present-tense question, actually. Bad enough for the gay community to turn his name into a term for certain gross bodily fluids I see he still deserves that legacy.
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Post by Zee on Apr 26, 2021 17:22:12 GMT
Funny thing, my 15-year-old was just asking me "how bad was Santorum?" I guess it's a present-tense question, actually. Bad enough for the gay community to turn his name into a term for certain gross bodily fluids I see he still deserves that legacy. There's a Manglaze polish named after him. It's brown. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 17:23:15 GMT
I am listening to Kurt Andersen’s “Fantasyland: How America went Haywire”
Absolutely phenomenal read/listen about the founding of this nation.
But Santorum and his ilk have spent their whole lives believing fairytales.
Why should their beliefs about America’s founding be any different?
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Post by rune2484 on Apr 26, 2021 17:32:22 GMT
Bad enough for the gay community to turn his name into a term for certain gross bodily fluids I see he still deserves that legacy. There's a Manglaze polish named after him. It's brown. Lol That is hilarious. I had no idea - thank you for sharing!
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 26, 2021 17:41:24 GMT
My husband (who used to identify as Republican and now says he has no party but I think is secretly liberal) was ranting about him when I got home from grocery shopping.
I have asked it before, but I am asking it again, how is this level of stupidity and ignorance not painful?
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Post by hop2 on Apr 26, 2021 17:54:06 GMT
Wow, how the Republicans love to rewrite history. The native Americans were here with their beliefs and culture and they were massacred, hunted and forcibly removed from their lands. And had treaty after treaty after treaty ignored by the US government. They have negotiated treaties in good faith MULTIPLE times only to have the US go back on their ‘word’ time after time after time.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Apr 26, 2021 18:04:53 GMT
Birthed from nothing? 🥴 Hmm, quite an patriarchal euphemism for stolen, I guess.
He’s still a complete jackass, I see.
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Post by Merge on Apr 26, 2021 19:06:09 GMT
The myth of American exceptionalism is a cancer in this country.
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 26, 2021 19:22:48 GMT
The myth of American exceptionalism is a cancer in this country. And the people who constantly bleat that the US is exceptional are always so completely unexceptional. Santorum is Exhibit A.
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Post by inkedup on Apr 26, 2021 19:23:57 GMT
My ancestors were indigenous to this continent. Native North Americans. Aztecs whose civilization and advancements rivaled or surpassed those of the people whose smallpox and Bibles overtook them.
My family's roots spread, from what we now call Mexico, into all of what we now call the United States of America.
My ancestors were systematically wiped out. Most records and monuments of Aztec civilization destroyed. Natives, shipped off to reservations. Their children stolen and sent to Indian schools.
My people, native to this land, were also not allowed in white spaces. Many signs during segregation read "No (n words), dogs or Mexicans".
Modern history and social justice movements seem to ignore and forget the utter destruction indigenous North Americans have suffered.
For all we hear about the horrors of slavery and reparations - all necessary and rightful - this is rarely, if ever, addressed.
So fuck Rick Santorum, but also, thanks, Rick Santorum. Because maybe now we can have a real conversation about the way colonization has affected indigenous people on this continent.
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Post by Merge on Apr 26, 2021 20:09:44 GMT
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Post by rodeomom on Apr 26, 2021 20:18:56 GMT
And the fact of the matter is its just not true that " there isn't much Native American culture in American culture." "Those who support the theory that the First Peoples influenced the drafting of the founding documents point to the words of founders such as Benjamin Franklin, who in 1751 wrote to his printer colleague James Parker that “It would be a strange thing if Six Nations of ignorant savages should be capable of forming a scheme for such an union, and be able to execute it in such a manner as that it has subsisted ages and appears indissoluble; and yet that a like union should be impracticable for ten or a dozen English colonies.” Native American Studies Professor Bruce Johansen and American Studies Professor Donald Grinde, among others, argue that American colonists, in Johansen’s words, “drew freely on the image of the American Indian as an exemplar of the spirit of liberty they so cherished.” These scholars argue that the framers of American governments understood and admired Native American government structures, and they borrowed certain indigenous concepts for their own governments." There are many examples of Native American culture influence on America. ALABAMA From the Alibamu, the name of Muskogean tribe, meaning “those who clear land for agricultural purposes.” ARIZONA From the Papago word, Airzonac, which probably means “small springs.” ARKANSAS From Akansea, a tribe whose name means “downstream people.” CONNECTICUT Meaning “river whose water is driven by tides or winds.” DAKOTA (North and South) Tribal name of the Sioux meaning “Allies.” ILLINOIS Meaning “Men,” the name of a confederacy of Algonquian tribes. IOWA The name of a tribe meaning “Sleepy Ones.” KENTUCKY Said to be derived from the word “Kenta,” meaning “Field” or “Meadow.” MASSACHUSETTS Name of an Algonquian tribe meaning “At or About the Great Hill.” MICHIGAN From the Indian word “Michigamea, meaning “Great Water.” MINNESOTA A Dakota word meaning “Whitish or Sky-tinted water.” MISSISSIPPI Algonquian word “misi” meaning “Great,” and “sipi,” meaning “water.” MISSOURI From the name of a tribe meaning “Great Muddy,” which refers to the river. NEBRASKA From an Oto word meaning “Broad Water.” NEW MEXICO Name of an Aztec god, “Meritili.” OHIO Iroquois word meaning “Beautiful River.” OKLAHOMA A Choctaw word meaning “Red People.” TENNESSEE The name of Cherokee settlement, the meaning unknown. TEXAS The name of a group of tribes meaning “Friends,” or “Allies.” UTAH From the tribal name of the “Ute,” meaning unknown. WISCONSIN The name of a group of tribes living on the Wisconsin River. The Native American has influenced many areas of the American way of life, from art and music, to law and government. Some other areas are: 1. Indians served as guides in the early exploration of this hemisphere. Their Trails became the roads and railroads over which the settlers advanced in search of new homes. 2. The log cabin was an adaptation of the Indian log or longhouse. 3. Sites of Indian villages advantageously located on waterways and trails became trading posts, then villages. Later they became the modern cities of Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Pocatello, and countless others. 4. Fur traders visited Indian villages and held rendezvous. Their reports encouraged the land hungry and adventurous people to move farther and and much more
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 26, 2021 20:35:49 GMT
You know, if you think of other countries like Italy and Greece and China, Turkey and places like that, they've all, sort of, changed over time. I mean, they've been there for millennia in many cases. And their culture has, sort of, evolved over time. But not us. Someone needs to remind Rick that he is the son of an Italian immigrant not someone who sailed on the Mayflower.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 2:32:03 GMT
"We birthed a nation from nothing genocide, slavery, and bone-crushing, limb-losing, fire-burning, wage-cheating, robber-baroning immigrant labor."
Fixed it for you, Frothy.
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 27, 2021 2:37:03 GMT
I have no words.
BTW, I kind of like that nail polish
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Post by freecharlie on Apr 27, 2021 2:39:59 GMT
colorado gets another one too. I don't know where it came from
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 13:25:47 GMT
I kind of like that nail polish
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Post by Prenticekid on Apr 27, 2021 14:40:07 GMT
As a Western Pennsylvanian, Santorum continually embarrasses me. He's the reason CNN has no credibility, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 22:43:08 GMT
You know, if you think of other countries like Italy and Greece and China, Turkey and places like that, they've all, sort of, changed over time. I mean, they've been there for millennia in many cases. And their culture has, sort of, evolved over time. But not us. Someone needs to remind Rick that he is the son of an Italian immigrant not someone who sailed on the Mayflower. I came here to write something similar. His father came here from Italy, and his mother was from Ireland. Here's a little bit more: Richard John Santorum was born in Winchester, Virginia.[1] He is the middle of the three children of Aldo Santorum (1923–2011), a clinical psychologist who immigrated to the United States at age seven from Riva, Trentino, Italy,[2] and Catherine (Dughi) Santorum (1918–2019), an administrative nurse[2][3][4] who was of Italian and Irish ancestry.[5] Santorum grew up in Berkeley County, West Virginia, and Butler County, Pennsylvania. In West Virginia, his family lived in an apartment provided by the Veterans Administration.[6]
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 22:51:29 GMT
As a sidenote, CNN has really changed into a disgusting network of drama and lies. They hire worthless assholes like Santorum on their shows, and drum up the drama. They're missing the daily drama and ratings from the former guy, so they have to do something to get viewership. Yeah... no thanks!
(CNN was also the network that hired Kayleigh McEnany and other idiots, to have the "both sides" fairness. We all know that it only served to have heated screaming matches in the hopes of bringing in viewers).
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