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Post by shanniebananie on Apr 27, 2021 13:33:11 GMT
We adopted a black lab (about 5 years old) a week ago who eats SUPER fast (we do use a slow feeder). Our other dog, a chocolate lab, is a very leisurely eater and will often let the food sit throughout the day. We are having trouble coordinating the feeding times so that they both will be able to eat their food in peace.
Right now the chocolate is fed in our mud room and the black lab is fed in the adjoining laundry room with the door closed. The problem is she finishes vey quickly and they scratches at the door and this stresses the chocolate lab out and she stops eating. She hasn't eaten a proper meal in over 36 hours. I have tried feeding her several times throughout the day but she seems stressed being "forced" to eat quickly. I keep thinking she will get hungry enough that she will eat quickly, but this hasn't happened yet.
I want to keep the chocolate's feeding place the same (since she was here first) but I am trying to think of a way to coordinate the feedings so that they are separated but can't bother each other.
How do you feed your dogs? How do you handle a slow eater? Help me brain storm solutions.
Thank you!
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Post by milocat on Apr 27, 2021 13:43:22 GMT
Maybe take the fast dog outside so the slow dog can be leisurely with the stress of scratching at the door. Put the old dog in the mud room to eat slowly and have the new dog run freely in the house. Sit with the new dog in the mud room and entertain him when he's done so he doesn't scratch.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Apr 27, 2021 13:48:57 GMT
The first time I had two dogs at once I realized the grazing method was not going to work anymore. I started putting a good spoonful of wet food on top of their dry food for their morning and dinner meal and they would gobble it up right then. Has worked ever since.
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Post by kristi521 on Apr 27, 2021 13:50:29 GMT
That is a good question. The suggestion from milocat is a good one though. Oddly, we had a chocolate lab that we would just leave food out for and he would eat when he wanted. We now have 2 yellow labs and both eat very quick, we call them Hoovers.
I would imagine your chocolate will eat when hungry enough. Sorry, this is a tough one for sure.
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Post by tinydogmafia on Apr 27, 2021 13:51:44 GMT
My 5 pound Pomeranian eats like she's never seen food in her life, every time she sees food. LOL. Meanwhile her sister eats very slowly, so she sneaks over and steals food while her sister eats. I bought this Slow Feeder Bowl. It was a great $8 spent. It forces her to slow down while eating. And her sister can enjoy her own food without worrying that Pumpkin will be over to mooch off of her.
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Post by busy on Apr 27, 2021 14:12:01 GMT
I’d feed the slow eater several small meals through the day at set times and quit the free feeding.
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Post by Skellinton on Apr 27, 2021 14:14:21 GMT
Maybe take the fast dog outside so the slow dog can be leisurely with the stress of scratching at the door. Put the old dog in the mud room to eat slowly and have the new dog run freely in the house. Sit with the new dog in the mud room and entertain him when he's done so he doesn't scratch. I agree with letting the new dog eating in an open room and entertaining him when he is done. Could he be whisked outside as soon as he is done with out upsetting the slow dog? Could you feed several small meals a day or is that not feasible with your work schedule? Also, once meal time is over food should be put up. It shouldn’t be left out for the og pup to graze on all day.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 27, 2021 14:35:31 GMT
We dogs a slow eater. He has learned to eat faster when he is at my house. I think with time your slow eater might eat faster.
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Post by christine58 on Apr 27, 2021 14:39:56 GMT
I'd feed the fast eater a bit at a time. Make him/her really slow down.
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Post by JustTricia on Apr 27, 2021 14:59:42 GMT
Microchip dog bowls. I know they have them for small pets so you’d have to see if they have them for larger dogs.
Essentially a chip goes on one dog’s collar and the food bowl has a cover on it that only opens when he walks up to it. It’s covered at all other times. The grazer can still graze and the speed eater can’t get to it.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 27, 2021 15:29:18 GMT
How do you feed your dogs? How do you handle a slow eater? Help me brain storm solutions. we had a grazer come into our home, and we also had two fast eaters who needed slow feeders. We fed all three of them in their crates with the doors closed (their crates were right next to each other). The 'grazer' dog eventually learned that she needed to eat it all right then... The other dogs were kept in their crates (and kept quiet) until Krista ate at least MOST of her food. Over time, she eventually picked up her pace. I like the idea of using wet food (or a couple treats, etc.) to make it more palatable for the slow eater to speed things up. Essentially a chip goes on one dog’s collar and the food bowl has a cover on it that only opens when he walks up to it. It’s covered at all other times. The grazer can still graze and the speed eater can’t get to it. something like this would NOT work in our house... Kokopelli (a very fast eater and power-chewer) chews at the bowls once dinnertime is over; we have to pick them up or he just gnaws on them. He would *destroy* that microchipped bowl trying to get at the food inside it. OP: do you have another choice in slow feeders that could slow the fast eater down even more? Perhaps a snuffle mat, or something that has more divisions in it? We have this one and it does slow him down quite a bit- the larger-size kibble really gets down in between the flexible wavy silicone dividers. Most of what I found in stores are more like this one which wouldn't have slowed him down much at all.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 27, 2021 15:46:06 GMT
We had that problem too when we got our newest lab. The poodle was happy nibbling at her food all day (which in itself was problematic because then her potty times would be unpredictable and she will NOT bark or whine when she needs to go out). The lab literally gobbles all his food in spite of having a slow feeder bowl, and then would seek out the other dog’s food and gobble that too. It’s been a challenge.
We feed them in separate rooms, and the little dog won’t eat until/unless she has a human (namely me) that will guard her while she eats because the big dog is 15 times bigger than she is. For a dog that doesn’t have housebreaking issues, it sounds like that microchip bowl would be the way to go. It wouldn’t work for us because I’m afraid if he can eat whenever she wants, my little dog would revert back to having near daily accidents and that also doesn’t work for me.
ETA: One other option for us would be to get an indoor zone thing for our Invisible Fence which would work, but the zone thing we currently have is battery operated and when the batteries in it go dead all bets are off.
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Post by paget on Apr 27, 2021 15:52:04 GMT
My two little dogs have two feeding times a day. They have separate eating spots. One of my dogs won’t eat near the other. I feed him in my office with the glass door shut so he can see out and know he is safe from his sister.
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Post by sharlag on Apr 27, 2021 18:46:54 GMT
One of those slow dog food bowl s that looks like a maze might slow down your gobbler enough.
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Post by kristi521 on Apr 27, 2021 19:43:42 GMT
We had that problem too when we got our newest lab. The poodle was happy nibbling at her food all day (which in itself was problematic because then her potty times would be unpredictable and she will NOT bark or whine when she needs to go out). The lab literally gobbles all his food in spite of having a slow feeder bowl, and then would seek out the other dog’s food and gobble that too. It’s been a challenge. We feed them in separate rooms, and the little dog won’t eat until/unless she has a human (namely me) that will guard her while she eats because the big dog is 15 times bigger than she is. For a dog that doesn’t have housebreaking issues, it sounds like that microchip bowl would be the way to go. It wouldn’t work for us because I’m afraid if he can eat whenever she wants, my little dog would revert back to having near daily accidents and that also doesn’t work for me. ETA: One other option for us would be to get an indoor zone thing for our Invisible Fence which would work, but the zone thing we currently have is battery operated and when the batteries in it go dead all bets are off. I was going to say, the slow feeder bowls have not helped enough. It slows them down a little bit, but not enough to make a difference.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 27, 2021 21:10:45 GMT
if you just adopted this super-fast eater, do you know anything about that dog's background? Is the new dog super-thin, like they weren't properly nourished? (I'm trying to think of reasons for the super-fast eating...) It sounds like he or she might also have some 'food insecurity' issues, with the fast eating and the trying to get at the other dog's food, or had to compete for food with other dogs in the past. In addition to trying to get the slow eater to speed up a little, maybe you should look into doing some things that can (eventually) slow the fast eater down so dinnertime isn't so frantic for the new dog. One of our dogs had a brain tumor that caused partial facial paralysis; I had to f eed her by hand, just a few kibbles at a time. Could you do something like that with your new dog, to slow him/her down? or scatter kibbles out on a cookie sheet, covered with squeaky toys, balls, etc. to make the kibbles harder to access? You'd have to re-fill the cookie sheet a couple times to get to the entire meal amount, but eating off the cookie sheet makes the dog HAVE to pick up only a couple kibbles at a time. A s mall amount of kibbles in each compartment of a muffin tin? And make sure you have set meal times, so the dog eventually realizes that 2x/day, like clockwork, they WILL get food. Or even m ore frequent, smaller meals, so the dog doesn't get overly 'hangry' and crazy at mealtime. And there are different types of slow-feeder bowls that have more compartments, smaller compartments, etc. There are also these Snuffle Mats that allow you to kind of 'hide' the kibbles in between the 'shag' of the mat and would make it take longer to eat. (as long as the dog wouldn't chew up the mat...) (Although our puppies are still crazy every mealtime, like they've never seen food before in their life- lol. But they're still puppies, and a big part of the crazy is because one of them was the runt of the litter so he DID have previous food competition issues.)
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Post by karinms on Apr 28, 2021 1:51:31 GMT
Our two year old pup consumes his meal in 5 seconds flat, our 11 yo is a very slow eater. We’ve just taught the 2 yo to stay away from the 11 yo til her bowl is lifted, then he is free to go see if she left him any tidbits .
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Post by Basket1lady on Apr 28, 2021 10:03:13 GMT
if you just adopted this super-fast eater, do you know anything about that dog's background? Is the new dog super-thin, like they weren't properly nourished? (I'm trying to think of reasons for the super-fast eating...) It sounds like he or she might also have some 'food insecurity' issues, with the fast eating and the trying to get at the other dog's food, or had to compete for food with other dogs in the past. In addition to trying to get the slow eater to speed up a little, maybe you should look into doing some things that can (eventually) slow the fast eater down so dinnertime isn't so frantic for the new dog. One of our dogs had a brain tumor that caused partial facial paralysis; I had to f eed her by hand, just a few kibbles at a time. Could you do something like that with your new dog, to slow him/her down? or scatter kibbles out on a cookie sheet, covered with squeaky toys, balls, etc. to make the kibbles harder to access? You'd have to re-fill the cookie sheet a couple times to get to the entire meal amount, but eating off the cookie sheet makes the dog HAVE to pick up only a couple kibbles at a time. A s mall amount of kibbles in each compartment of a muffin tin? And make sure you have set meal times, so the dog eventually realizes that 2x/day, like clockwork, they WILL get food. Or even m ore frequent, smaller meals, so the dog doesn't get overly 'hangry' and crazy at mealtime. And there are different types of slow-feeder bowls that have more compartments, smaller compartments, etc. There are also these Snuffle Mats that allow you to kind of 'hide' the kibbles in between the 'shag' of the mat and would make it take longer to eat. (as long as the dog wouldn't chew up the mat...) (Although our puppies are still crazy every mealtime, like they've never seen food before in their life- lol. But they're still puppies, and a big part of the crazy is because one of them was the runt of the litter so he DID have previous food competition issues.) These are some great ideas if you don't want to buy new equipment! The 5 year old is a lab. Most labs are HIGHLY food motivated and can eat like they haven't been fed in days. Not all labs, but even our lab eats quickly and she only had one other sibling in her litter and has been the only dog at our house since she was 9 weeks old. She will "campaign" for food an hour before dinner and she gets fed on the dot here of 6am and 7pm. She even knows that when the church bells ring, it's her time to eat and will go up and bump you with her nose. The bells ring every hour and half hour, but she knows when it's breakfast and dinner time. Our little village church only has Saturday vigil services once a month and the bells ring for 20 minutes before Mass. This month they weren't set to Daylight Saving Time yet and went off at 6:40pm instead of 5:40pm. Emma was so mad that we wouldn't feed her! She was convinced that it was 7pm because the bells kept playing. OP, I think that you are just going to have to monitor your new dog and keep him away from your slow eater. It may be a good time to work on a down stay. If that doesn't work, maybe try feeding a final handful from your hand so that you can grab the collar. You can also put the dog outside, but I know my dog would then be torn and want to go outside as well when she heard the door open.
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