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Post by craftedbys on May 19, 2021 19:31:36 GMT
The other day DH's company put out that they are offering $75 to employees as an incentive to bring in a copy of their covid vaccination card.
DH said he feels like "it is a coercive attempt to procure personal medical information".
I am not sure what they would do with this information other than just track how many employees are vaccinated at any location.
What do the Peas think? Incentive or coercion? Should the company be allowed access to this information? Is it better than making vaccination mandatory?
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Post by agengr2004 on May 19, 2021 19:35:19 GMT
They probably just want to know who's been vaccinated so that they can make a plan moving forward regarding masking, etc. It's an incentive, there's no threat.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 19, 2021 19:36:38 GMT
This isn't even a semantic grey zone. It's clearly incentive with conditional access to the financial reward. The condition being bringing forward evidence of vaccination. Nobody's forcing your husband to be vaccinated. He just can't claim the money without proper proof to qualify for the reward.
Easy peasy.
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Post by busy on May 19, 2021 19:38:40 GMT
100% incentive
God, Iâm sick of people whining about this crap. Yes, an employer is entitled to know this in order to inform decisions about providing as safe of a workplace as possible.
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Post by Kerri W on May 19, 2021 19:41:40 GMT
We are living in a new world. Employers need to be able to plan for that. They need to know if a majority of their employees are vaccinated, they can return to the office, business travel, etc.
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Post by pinklady on May 19, 2021 19:45:00 GMT
The other day DH's company put out that they are offering $75 to employees as an incentive to bring in a copy of their covid vaccination card. DH said he feels like "it is a coercive attempt to procure personal medical information". I am not sure what they would do with this information other than just track how many employees are vaccinated at any location. What do the Peas think? Incentive or coercion? Should the company be allowed access to this information? Is it better than making vaccination mandatory? Oh for fucks sake itâs an incentive. Ugh, this pandemic has reaffirmed my disdain for people!
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Post by TheOtherMeg on May 19, 2021 19:48:39 GMT
My brother's workplace gives gym membership rebates and also pays for smoking cessation clinics/sessions (or whatever they're called).
If TFG hadn't politicized C19, this wouldn't be seen as any different than those things.
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Post by bianca42 on May 19, 2021 19:52:53 GMT
My office requested in January that if you would let them know after getting the vaccine, that would be great. They're using the info to determine masking requirements and distancing requirements. I'm not sure what else you can imagine them doing with the information.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 19:54:20 GMT
Coercion means to control via the use of force. Is his work controlling him by being FORCED to get the vaccine? Or is he being incentivized to voluntarily (and without consequence if he chooses not to) show that he has been vaccinated? If he thinks "hey, we'll give you money!" is coercion, then what does he think about Ohio offering a random vaccinated person $1,000,000 or a full-ride scholarship?
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Post by craftedbys on May 19, 2021 19:55:54 GMT
Thank you! I said it wasn't any different from getting a free donut for showing your card.
DH is fully vaccinated and will show his because he wants the money.
I think he was concerned about some of his workers who have told him they didn't want the vaccine, but now have to choose between standing by that or getting the money, which of course who doesn't need extra money.
I guess it's better to get a monetary incentive or reward than to just be forced to get it as a condition of employment which takes the decision out of the workers hands.
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Post by femalebusiness on May 19, 2021 19:56:51 GMT
They are not looking for anyone's medical information.
I had to show proof of my daughter's vaccinations before they'd let her enroll in public school and don't you have to show you've had certain vaccinations to travel to certain countries? What is the downside to letting people know you are vaccinated? The nut cases who call Covid a hoax won't like you any more?
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Post by kelly8875 on May 19, 2021 19:58:17 GMT
Should the company be allowed access to this information? Is it better than making vaccination mandatory? The company isn't accessing anything. It's a voluntary thing. Don't make it more than it is. No different than lots of employers offering flu-shot clinics.
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Post by monklady123 on May 19, 2021 20:00:36 GMT
Lol, it's an incentive.
And who cares if an employer knows that someone is vaccinated? I mean, unless the person is ashamed of the fact that they are *not* vaccinated. In that case they need to go get vaccinated!
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Post by monklady123 on May 19, 2021 20:01:40 GMT
The other day DH's company put out that they are offering $75 to employees as an incentive to bring in a copy of their covid vaccination card. DH said he feels like "it is a coercive attempt to procure personal medical information". I am not sure what they would do with this information other than just track how many employees are vaccinated at any location. What do the Peas think? Incentive or coercion? Should the company be allowed access to this information? Is it better than making vaccination mandatory? Oh for fucks sake itâs an incentive. Ugh, this pandemic has reaffirmed my disdain for people! I am right there with you.
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Post by CeeScraps on May 19, 2021 20:05:35 GMT
Have a nice dinner on his $75!
They are not asking for anything more than this information. Yeesh, people need to get a grip on it!
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 19, 2021 20:06:07 GMT
Lol, it's an incentive. And who cares if an employer knows that someone is vaccinated? I mean, unless the person is ashamed of the fact that they are *not* vaccinated. In that case they need to go get vaccinated! This. It seems to me that the only people hiding are people who don't want you to know that they didn't get a vaccine.
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Post by ChicagoKTS on May 19, 2021 20:07:34 GMT
Incentive, pure and simple. Itâs ridiculous to think otherwise.
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Post by MichyM on May 19, 2021 20:09:26 GMT
I see absolutely no coercion in what you describe. None whatsoever.
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Post by compeateropeator on May 19, 2021 20:13:05 GMT
I agree with incentive... but not necessarily with the ffs or other added emotional content. đ A pretty basic question with a pretty easy answer for me. Take the 75 bucks and do something fun. I got vaccinated through my job (healthcare/hospital) so they know. đ.
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Post by Zee on May 19, 2021 20:13:48 GMT
I've seen some of these nutty comments about HIPAA violations, they'll sue, etc like anyone really is finding out your medical conditions based on whether you had a vaccine or not. Only of course it's spelled HIPPA by those folks, lol, pet peeve.
The conspiracy theorists are really having a field day since Covid.
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Post by bc2ca on May 19, 2021 20:14:43 GMT
I think he was concerned about some of his workers who have told him they didn't want the vaccine, but now have to choose between standing by that or getting the money, which of course who doesn't need extra money. If $75 separates them from "standing by" some reason for not getting vaccinated, I'd say their convictions are pretty weak.
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Post by bc2ca on May 19, 2021 20:18:00 GMT
This. It seems to me that the only people hiding are people who don't want you to know that they didn't get a vaccine. I think there are as many people who did get vaccinated but don't want anyone to know that because it doesn't fit their public stance.
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Post by sleepingbooty on May 19, 2021 20:48:37 GMT
This. It seems to me that the only people hiding are people who don't want you to know that they didn't get a vaccine. I think there are as many people who did get vaccinated but don't want anyone to know that because it doesn't fit their public stance. *cough Tucker Carlson cough* Look, it's 75 dollars or not. That's not money you've earned. That's not money you're owed. It's a conditional bonus. To be eligible, show proof. Otherwise, it's time to move on and stop being grumpy that it's unfair. I couldn't be eligible for the vaccination until this very month. To get my vaccine, I had to show proof of my social security number and ID. Those were the conditions to access a precious shot. I didn't stomp my little footsies around the place, huffing and puffing, because it's not fair they weren't just giving me the damn vaccine. Heck, the vaccine is worth waaaaaaay more than 75 dollars. It could mean saving your life (and very expensive hospital bills if you're in the US).
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Post by lizacreates on May 19, 2021 21:05:33 GMT
Thank you! I said it wasn't any different from getting a free donut for showing your card. DH is fully vaccinated and will show his because he wants the money. I think he was concerned about some of his workers who have told him they didn't want the vaccine, but now have to choose between standing by that or getting the money, which of course who doesn't need extra money. I guess it's better to get a monetary incentive or reward than to just be forced to get it as a condition of employment which takes the decision out of the workers hands. Okay. That differs from your original post of âDH said he feels like it is a coercive attempt to procure personal medical information.â These co-workers are grown-ups, right? So I guess I donât understand why your husband would even be concerned about their choices. Honestly, if someone came to me and said he needs the $75 but doesnât want the vaccine, Iâd just shrug. Adults ought to know everythingâs a trade-off. Just tell him to fuggetaboutit.
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Post by hop2 on May 19, 2021 21:12:51 GMT
Lol, it's an incentive. And who cares if an employer knows that someone is vaccinated? I mean, unless the person is ashamed of the fact that they are *not* vaccinated. In that case they need to go get vaccinated! This. It seems to me that the only people hiding are people who don't want you to know that they didn't get a vaccine. Thereâs a few who donât want you to know that they did get vaccinated. I guess they are afraid someone might notice their hypocrisy.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on May 19, 2021 21:17:31 GMT
I wish my employer would offer that incentive!
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 19, 2021 21:45:18 GMT
I got my vaccine through work so there was no way they didnât know. I was also offered a $100 incentive to provide proof I was vaccinated. This was so, as a company, we could say âour employees are x% vaccinated.â I work in a service industry with a lot of guest contact. As a vaccinated employee I no longer have to wear a mask at all times when out of my office. Itâs my call.
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Post by freecharlie on May 19, 2021 21:46:52 GMT
Incentive. You don't have to get vaccinated and if you do, you don't have to show the card.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on May 19, 2021 21:52:58 GMT
Coercion would be if they were going to take $75 away from you if you didn't get vaccinated.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on May 20, 2021 0:22:42 GMT
DS received a $100 bonus for showing his card at work. No associates are required to get vaccinated or show their card, unless they would like to receive the bonus. The money is available to all associates, even those that were vaccinated before the bonus was announced, so it's just a thank you for stepping up and doing the right thing for society.
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