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Post by librarylady on May 22, 2021 12:49:18 GMT
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Post by peabay on May 22, 2021 13:39:30 GMT
That was so the opposite of where I thought this story was going. I'm thinking they didn't want girls (because, face it, it's always the girls who get dress code violations) in sexy stilettos or something like that. How can they dictate that the girls can't wear sneakers? This is so incredibly stupid.
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Post by SockMonkey on May 22, 2021 13:44:38 GMT
Dress codes are almost always about forcing stereotypical gender norms on young bodies for no reason other than control.
All that over converse shoes at prom in a pandemic. Principal Lisa Sadler is an asshole and shouldn't be allowed to lead a school. PERIOD.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on May 22, 2021 13:44:40 GMT
I just can’t.
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Post by Merge on May 22, 2021 13:59:35 GMT
School 1: Can't wear that in your yearbook photo, too sexy.
School 2: Can't wear that to prom, not sexy enough.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 22, 2021 14:03:48 GMT
Frequently worn for weddings. Are weddings not formal occasions?
FOOLS!!
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Post by SockMonkey on May 22, 2021 14:06:24 GMT
School 1: Can't wear that in your yearbook photo, too sexy. School 2: Can't wear that to prom, not sexy enough.  |
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Post by CardBoxer on May 22, 2021 14:10:20 GMT
Idiocracy rules way too often.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2021 14:15:39 GMT
Idiocracy rules way too often Patriarchy and misogyny rule way too often. Grateful that many of Gen Z reject the stupidity of their elders. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2021 14:23:12 GMT
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Post by mikklynn on May 22, 2021 14:23:16 GMT
Good grief. These kids are so much better than the idiots mandating footwear.
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Post by CardBoxer on May 22, 2021 14:26:00 GMT
Idiocracy rules way too often Patriarchy and misogyny rule way too often. Grateful that many of Gen Z reject the stupidity of their elders. We did that in the 60’s/early 70’s. Didn’t do a lot of good. Maybe some? It scares me how conservative and intolerant (to those unlike them) some young people are because of how they’re raised. I’ve kind of given up on humans. Give me cats. Dogs. Cicadas. |
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Post by supersoda on May 22, 2021 14:31:33 GMT
Dress codes are almost always about forcing stereotypical gender norms on young bodies for no reason other than control. All that over converse shoes at prom in a pandemic. Principal Lisa Sadler is an asshole and shouldn't be allowed to lead a school. PERIOD. I completely agree that it is all about control and enforcing stereotypical gender norms. It is astonishing the lengths schools around here (Texas) will go to for dress codes for no other reason than to exert control over students. My kids' high school had strict prom dress codes and didn't allow sneakers at graduation--what about the kids who only owned sneakers and didn't have the funds to buy dress shoes for a single occasion? I'm seeing boys affected more and more often, though. There was a case recently somewhere in Texas where a boy not allowed to wear nail polish. They eventually got that changed. And there have been multiple cases of boys who weren't allowed to have long hair. It's just so stupid. |
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Post by ellen on May 22, 2021 15:59:22 GMT
That is so stupid. We had prom last week and I told a girl that I liked her blue Nikes - they were a perfect match to her blue dress. Her dress was long and you only caught glimpses of her shoes. Her date wore the same sneakers. It was cute. When I see dumb things like this from admin it makes me wonder if they understand kids at all.
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Post by PLurker on May 22, 2021 16:12:08 GMT
FFS
Does she live in a cave? Converse are mainstream and everywhere. Casual and formal events.
Yep. All about control and being the cookie cutter humans they want them to be.
Sorry, people aren't cookies.
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Post by yodutchess on May 22, 2021 16:21:35 GMT
I am so sick of this #$&*.
To be clear, I favor the right of the student to have sneakers.
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Post by Rhondito on May 22, 2021 16:27:12 GMT
I'm assuming the boys were allowed to wear their sneakers? Such bullshit.
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Post by MaryMary on May 22, 2021 16:27:16 GMT
My DD literally wore Converse to prom last night. This makes zero sense. What a crappy thing to do to these girls.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 22, 2021 16:29:55 GMT
Have they not noticed that our current Vice President wears Converse sneakers...
Or is it a way to issue a hidden objection to her?
Either way, shame on them!!
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Post by freecharlie on May 22, 2021 17:15:12 GMT
I've chaperoned prom. Those high heels come off and the girls dance barefoot most of the time. Converse are a great choice.
Idiot schools.
I changed into Keds at my wedding.
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Post by questioning on May 22, 2021 18:18:54 GMT
I think some wore sneakers to our prom and graduation in the late 70's. How ridiculous. I hope the kids protest and all show up in Converse to graduation.
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Post by questioning on May 22, 2021 18:19:46 GMT
Have they not noticed that our current Vice President wears Converse sneakers... Or is it a way to issue a hidden objection to her? Either way, shame on them!! You might be on to something if they allow Vans. Ridiculous! |
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Post by epeanymous on May 22, 2021 18:28:54 GMT
That was so the opposite of where I thought this story was going. I'm thinking they didn't want girls (because, face it, it's always the girls who get dress code violations) in sexy stilettos or something like that. How can they dictate that the girls can't wear sneakers? This is so incredibly stupid. Because in the end it is about controlling girls. |
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Post by Skellinton on May 22, 2021 21:11:42 GMT
Dress codes are almost always about forcing stereotypical gender norms on young bodies for no reason other than control. All that over converse shoes at prom in a pandemic. Principal Lisa Sadler is an asshole and shouldn't be allowed to lead a school. PERIOD. I completely agree that it is all about control and enforcing stereotypical gender norms. It is astonishing the lengths schools around here (Texas) will go to for dress codes for no other reason than to exert control over students. My kids' high school had strict prom dress codes and didn't allow sneakers at graduation--what about the kids who only owned sneakers and didn't have the funds to buy dress shoes for a single occasion? I'm seeing boys affected more and more often, though. There was a case recently somewhere in Texas where a boy not allowed to wear nail polish. They eventually got that changed. And there have been multiple cases of boys who weren't allowed to have long hair. It's just so stupid. I graduated from HS in 90 (outside of Portland, a very liberal area) and girls weren’t allowed to wear pants! I wore shorts under my gown with flats, but my mom was super worried I wasn’t going to be allowed to walk. I didn’t realize at the time who sexist or exclusionary it was, I just didn’t/don’t wear dresses or skirts I didn’t have any in my closet and even though my mom would have gotten me one I refused because I thought it was just a stupid rule. I am glad kids now are more aware and I hope they fight this kind of crap and get support from their parents to change these types of rules. |
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Post by freecharlie on May 22, 2021 21:51:31 GMT
I completely agree that it is all about control and enforcing stereotypical gender norms. It is astonishing the lengths schools around here (Texas) will go to for dress codes for no other reason than to exert control over students. My kids' high school had strict prom dress codes and didn't allow sneakers at graduation--what about the kids who only owned sneakers and didn't have the funds to buy dress shoes for a single occasion? I'm seeing boys affected more and more often, though. There was a case recently somewhere in Texas where a boy not allowed to wear nail polish. They eventually got that changed. And there have been multiple cases of boys who weren't allowed to have long hair. It's just so stupid. I graduated from HS in 90 (outside of Portland, a very liberal area) and girls weren’t allowed to wear pants! I wore shorts under my gown with flats, but my mom was super worried I wasn’t going to be allowed to walk. I didn’t realize at the time who sexist or exclusionary it was, I just didn’t/don’t wear dresses or skirts I didn’t have any in my closet and even though my mom would have gotten me one I refused because I thought it was just a stupid rule. I am glad kids now are more aware and I hope they fight this kind of crap and get support from their parents to change these types of rules. ds's gf is required to wear a skirt or dress under her gown. They also banned tennis shoes from the boys when ds graduated and did not want jeans. We are a rural community, these boys don't have dress shoes or slacks (slacks if they were athletes). Why don't they just let yhe kids be comfortable? I mean, tell them they have to wear more than just underwear, but other than that... |
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Post by bc2ca on May 22, 2021 22:45:22 GMT
Because in the end it is about controlling girls.  I've got to admit my jaw dropped when I saw this was about sneakers.  |
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Post by Jili on May 22, 2021 23:34:00 GMT
This is absolutely ridiculous. Both my girls wore sparkly Toms for prom.
One dd wore high top Converse with a flattering dress to homecoming. She looked cute. Once or twice she tried on a pair of heels and other dd and I were terrified for her safety and for the safety of others. She cannot be allowed to ambulate in heels.
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Post by Merge on May 23, 2021 0:20:40 GMT
That was so the opposite of where I thought this story was going. I'm thinking they didn't want girls (because, face it, it's always the girls who get dress code violations) in sexy stilettos or something like that. How can they dictate that the girls can't wear sneakers? This is so incredibly stupid. Because in the end it is about controlling girls. This. Women’s dress shoes, even flats, tend to be uncomfortable and cause blisters. (Comfort brands are often more expensive, outside a teenager’s budget.) Heels are also uncomfortable, designed to produce a sway in the hips when walking to add to a woman’s sex appeal. Apparently either of these situations is preferable than a girl wearing ... gasp ... sneakers! I often wonder when administrators make these kinds of asinine decisions - don’t they realize they’re going to end up on national news? It’s like they’re just dying to look stupid at a national level. |
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Post by tincin on May 23, 2021 1:20:10 GMT
I completely agree that it is all about control and enforcing stereotypical gender norms. It is astonishing the lengths schools around here (Texas) will go to for dress codes for no other reason than to exert control over students. My kids' high school had strict prom dress codes and didn't allow sneakers at graduation--what about the kids who only owned sneakers and didn't have the funds to buy dress shoes for a single occasion? I'm seeing boys affected more and more often, though. There was a case recently somewhere in Texas where a boy not allowed to wear nail polish. They eventually got that changed. And there have been multiple cases of boys who weren't allowed to have long hair. It's just so stupid. I graduated from HS in 90 (outside of Portland, a very liberal area) and girls weren’t allowed to wear pants! I wore shorts under my gown with flats, but my mom was super worried I wasn’t going to be allowed to walk. I didn’t realize at the time who sexist or exclusionary it was, I just didn’t/don’t wear dresses or skirts I didn’t have any in my closet and even though my mom would have gotten me one I refused because I thought it was just a stupid rule. I am glad kids now are more aware and I hope they fight this kind of crap and get support from their parents to change these types of rules. I graduated in 1978 and the girls were told if we wore pants we would not be allowed to graduate. About two dozen of us vowed to wear pants. Everyone chickened out but me. Not a word was said but the girls who chickened out said they were afraid they wouldn’t be allowed to graduate. Hell, they might have stopped me from participating in the ceremony but with a 3.85 GPA they sure as hell weren’t going to stop me from getting my diploma. I can’t believe such ridiculous BS is still going on in the 21st century. |
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Post by SockMonkey on May 23, 2021 2:05:51 GMT
I graduated from HS in 90 (outside of Portland, a very liberal area) and girls weren’t allowed to wear pants! I wore shorts under my gown with flats, but my mom was super worried I wasn’t going to be allowed to walk. I didn’t realize at the time who sexist or exclusionary it was, I just didn’t/don’t wear dresses or skirts I didn’t have any in my closet and even though my mom would have gotten me one I refused because I thought it was just a stupid rule. I am glad kids now are more aware and I hope they fight this kind of crap and get support from their parents to change these types of rules. ds's gf is required to wear a skirt or dress under her gown. They also banned tennis shoes from the boys when ds graduated and did not want jeans. We are a rural community, these boys don't have dress shoes or slacks (slacks if they were athletes). Why don't they just let yhe kids be comfortable? I mean, tell them they have to wear more than just underwear, but other than that... I walked in Commencement today. Our kids wore everything from dresses and shirts with bow ties to shorts and t-shirts under their gowns. Sandals to dress shoes, and some real funky boots. Our admin was great about just saying to wear appropriate footwear (since we were on turf and the kids had to walk a metal ramp up to a stage) and not to carry anything so their hands would be free and they didn't lose stuff. (They all had their phones, LOL.) It was 86º, but we were on the turf, which adds about 10º of heat. NOBODY NOTICED WHAT THE KIDS WORE UNDER THEIR GOWNS IN A GLOBAL PANDEMIC GRADUATION. I am a proud public school educator, but sometimes we really do stupid shit. |
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