Canada peas...covid and travel restrictions

we are never getting out....

We stretched the distance between shots to 4 months in an effort to have more people with one shot for the summer.

I honestly don't see us having that border open until the fall.

We are only at 52% of our population with one shot so I don't think our border will open until mid fall when 75% are fully vaccinated.

Ontario numbers are slowly going down but we are still in lockdown, for a couple more weeks and all restrictions aren't expected to be lifted until August. Quebec is doing very well and are currently lifting their restrictions but I don't think they will be fully open until July. maitoba and Alberta still have rsing numbers although I am sure they are just a few weeks behind Ontario and they will start to come down very soon.

I would not plan a trip to Canada this year.

I was hoping to get to Seattle in mid-July to help my uncle pack his house up to move back to Canada but it is getting increasingly unlikely that I’m going to be able to go.

This is encouraging, I hope you're right. 
Our son lives in B.C., we live in California, and our families of origin are in Ontario. 
I haven't seen my 89 yo mom since Dec 2019 and am so very lucky that my only sibling, my sister, lives 3 miles from mum and is a very attentive helpful daughter, a real gem.  

Do you have any idea when people in B.C. are likely to be able to travel to the U.S. and NOT have to quarantine upon return?

Thanks Delta Dawn. OUr dd is getting married in the second half of Sept. Fingers crossed her brother will be able to come.

I need roserose and amblet to come in the fall. I am going crazy.

I think it depends entirely on the vaccination rates.

Part of the reason my family and friends are optimistic is because most of them were originally given August/September timeframe for their first shots. All were eligible way before then and expect the pace to continue to accelerate.

We all know so much can change in a few months, but I wouldn't be surprised if limited cross border activity was allowed well in time for your DD's wedding, especially for those fully vaccinated.

We might be open by end of summer, but it looks like 50-50 odds at this point. They’re saying we should maintain restrictions until 75% have one shot and 20% have two. Right now we’re about 60% with one and 5% with two. First doses are increasing at about 1% per day but second doses I think are growing more slowly than that.

We are in Ontario and hoping to go to Manitoba in August. Some days I think we’re going and other days it all feels hopeless. It’s a rollercoaster, for sure. I would hope interprovincial travel is allowed before international.

I am aching to see my Nova Scotia family. But since I live in the US  I am not holding out for any time soon. We thought of flying to Maine and driving but I've seen videos where cars are being turned away at the New Brunswick/Nova Scotia border.

my DD is at university in NS (we are in Ontario) and would love to get out to visit as well..... the east coast has been fairly strict with their restrictions so we are not holding out much (any) hope of seeing her this summer. Fingers crossed a quick visit at thanksgiving may happen (and her coming home at Christmas without having to quarantine non return.

Our cases are very low and our restrictions are lifting but not every province is in the same position. We will be allowed to travel within province / country starting June 15. Currently Canada requires a 14 day quarantine for anyone entering the country. This includes a 3 day hotel stay while awaiting Covid results. We expect that to be lifted soon for double vaccinated travellers. I would think by July 1 but there is always the possibility of sept 1. You wouldn’t want to come and quarantine.

My girls (12 and 15) just had their first dose on the weekend I have my second dose booked for the week after next (yay!). My dh had already had both doses. Our second dose was just moved to 13 weeks after the first dose based on studies out of the UK that waiting produces a better response. Yesterday our gov’t explained that they think a high proportion of single doses can produce a similar response as a lower proportion of double doses. Their goal is 75 percent double.

The info my cousin who lives in Ontario sent me has no info on travel to the US. A good friend of mine owns a cottage north of Toronto. It’s currently being looked after by a dockmaster. He told her that he does not think the border to the United States will be open to anyone, vaccinated or not, until late fall.

I’d be interested in the information from the UK about how waiting longer to get this that vaccine produces a better response. That certainly is nothing I have read here in the United States. paigepea.

Here's a brief report of the limited study  The study was only carried out with people over 80 but there is no evidence that it doesn't work for anyone younger. It only covers the Pfizer vaccination in this study as that was the only vaccination in use from the date they started to carry out the study.

There was a lot of professional doubt from many at the time when the UK decided to go against the recommended manufacturers time limit between the two doses. The main reason for the longer time span was that it was better to have a higher % of the population vaccinated with even one dose which offered a fairly good level of protection than a lower % of the population with two doses and the rest having none.

As it turns out our regulating body were accurate in their prediction when they made this decision  that there would be no difference in the protection gained at 12 weeks intervals than there was in the 3 weeks intervals carried out in the clinical trials. This is reflected in the dramatic drop in hospitalizations and deaths in the over 60's in the UK. What they didn't know at the time was that it would also up the antibodies as per this particular study.

Yes it does, that is what they found out in the study. The level of antibodies was higher in the ones they studied than they were in the data  for the original clinical trials