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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 3, 2021 13:47:01 GMT
She found out from her adult(ish) kids. She didn't ask about it.. the kids just voluntarily told her. One of the girls found a Trump mask in his car. Then one of the other girls was having a talk with him and I guess he believes now that the people who are getting vaccinated are now has some kind of tracking chip in them. She is beyond shocked. This guy had Kennedy posters on their house walls among other types of memorabilia. That was one of the common detonators in their marriage. Hard core!! My thoughts are that is current girlfriend must be Republican (which is fine in itself) but I wonder if she is hard core Trumper and he is just going along with it? I mean how can you change that drastically? I shared before about this POS and what he put my sister through (he denies he has a porn addiction to this day, although there is solid proof of his cheating (found after divorce), dark web dealings, prostitutes, and even a pimp threatening to kill his family... Just interesting.... she has never been happier... and I am so happy for her. Just to say.. this isn't meant to be 'political' in the sense of debating Democrat v Republicans... neither one of us has a dog in that fight. Neither of us are Trump fans at all.
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scorpeao
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Post by scorpeao on Jun 3, 2021 14:03:07 GMT
He probably started watching Fox News. If you hear something often enough you forget the truth.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 3, 2021 16:12:00 GMT
He probably started watching Fox News. If you hear something often enough you forget the truth. So true.
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Post by magellen on Jun 3, 2021 16:13:32 GMT
I know a lot of people that shifted sides one way or the other, the ones that got lured to the dark side...whew wackadoodles.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 16:16:13 GMT
Sounds like he was always an asshole.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jun 3, 2021 16:20:46 GMT
I shared before about this POS and what he put my sister through (he denies he has a porn addiction to this day, although there is solid proof of his cheating (found after divorce), dark web dealings, prostitutes, and even a pimp threatening to kill his family… He has always been a repub at heart.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 17:40:54 GMT
I shared before about this POS and what he put my sister through (he denies he has a porn addiction to this day, although there is solid proof of his cheating (found after divorce), dark web dealings, prostitutes, and even a pimp threatening to kill his family... Sorry. She's well rid of that marriage. Happy for her happiness.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 3, 2021 17:55:19 GMT
Sounds like he was always an asshole. Yep.. and just to bad she put up with his crap for a lot of years... but she did get out a few years ago, did some dating and now is with a new guy and finally seem to hit a really good one. Time will tell. But she is having fun and sounding like a high school girl these days.. haha.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 4, 2021 3:06:26 GMT
Sounds like he was always an asshole. Yep.. and just to bad she put up with his crap for a lot of years... but she did get out a few years ago, did some dating and now is with a new guy and finally seem to hit a really good one. Time will tell. But she is having fun and sounding like a high school girl these days.. haha. I remember your sister from when she used to post on the old board (you only have the one sister, right?). Always liked her! Glad to hear she’s doing well these days.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jun 4, 2021 3:25:13 GMT
My brother, and youngest sister voted Obama, Obama, Clinton, Trump, and are now full blown 4 alarm Q nutters. It happens. (They are in the Detroit metro area, FWIW.)
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Post by hookturnian on Jun 4, 2021 3:44:26 GMT
The Murdoch media is driving a shift to the right in the US, UK and Australia. A former PM of Australia has called it a 'cancer on democracy'. A second former PM, from the other side of politics, agrees with him.
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Jun 4, 2021 13:40:47 GMT
Watch the documentary “The Brainwashing of my Father”
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Post by SockMonkey on Jun 4, 2021 13:48:03 GMT
I'm still hung up on why someone would want/need/use a Trump mask.
People are wild.
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AmeliaBloomer
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jun 4, 2021 13:50:52 GMT
“Walkaway.”
Maybe she wasn’t as deluded as we thought.
(Seriously, though, I posted in another thread that a lot of Q and Q adjacent people are doing crazy extreme ideological about-faces. Seems the belief in vast conspiracies trumps (heh) ideology and they change political stripes. Fascinating.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 15:38:07 GMT
There's also the 'horseshoe' theory. Not wild about the 'Catholicism' and 'Islamism' being included, but otherwise, you get the idea. I think there's some merit to it. For example, you get anti-vaxers who are the far-left woo crowd. And you get anti-vaxers who are the far-right 'gubmint is evil' crowd.
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Post by voltagain on Jun 4, 2021 17:04:59 GMT
She found out from her adult(ish) kids. She didn't ask about it.. the kids just voluntarily told her. One of the girls found a Trump mask in his car. Then one of the other girls was having a talk with him and I guess he believes now that the people who are getting vaccinated are now has some kind of tracking chip in them. She is beyond shocked. This guy had Kennedy posters on their house walls among other types of memorabilia. That was one of the common detonators in their marriage. Hard core!! My thoughts are that is current girlfriend must be Republican (which is fine in itself) but I wonder if she is hard core Trumper and he is just going along with it? I mean how can you change that drastically? I shared before about this POS and what he put my sister through (he denies he has a porn addiction to this day, although there is solid proof of his cheating (found after divorce), dark web dealings, prostitutes, and even a pimp threatening to kill his family... Just interesting.... she has never been happier... and I am so happy for her. Just to say.. this isn't meant to be 'political' in the sense of debating Democrat v Republicans... neither one of us has a dog in that fight. Neither of us are Trump fans at all. Or maybe he is like my ex. He has no values/ideology of his own; just goes with the most vocal thinkers in his life. My kids have been shocked at his change in values. Realistically his values during our marriage were mostly mine. The second wife has a completely different set so he is following her now.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 4, 2021 18:39:42 GMT
Some people get less tolerant with age, in my observation.
Me, I have become far more open minded as I get older.
But yeah, I don’t know how you go from Kennedy to Trump in that time, unless we are talking Robert F Kennedy Jr.
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 4, 2021 18:44:19 GMT
There's also the 'horseshoe' theory. Not wild about the 'Catholicism' and 'Islamism' being included, but otherwise, you get the idea. I think there's some merit to it. For example, you get anti-vaxers who are the far-left woo crowd. And you get anti-vaxers who are the far-right 'gubmint is evil' crowd. I actually think there is something to that horseshoe idea. The extremes of both opposing wings are both alarming in their extremity, although the extreme right is much more a clear and present danger, currently.
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Post by StephDRebel on Jun 4, 2021 20:38:40 GMT
I shared before about this POS and what he put my sister through (he denies he has a porn addiction to this day, although there is solid proof of his cheating (found after divorce), dark web dealings, prostitutes, and even a pimp threatening to kill his family... I mean, it kind of sounds like he's been on task with his current beliefs for quite a while-- is he just coming out of the republican closet now that he's empowered to be more loud about who he's always been?
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 4, 2021 23:31:02 GMT
There's also the 'horseshoe' theory. Not wild about the 'Catholicism' and 'Islamism' being included, but otherwise, you get the idea. I think there's some merit to it. For example, you get anti-vaxers who are the far-left woo crowd. And you get anti-vaxers who are the far-right 'gubmint is evil' crowd. I actually think there is something to that horseshoe idea. The extremes of both opposing wings are both alarming in their extremity, although the extreme right is much more a clear and present danger, currently. I agree with you.
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Post by PLurker on Jun 5, 2021 1:59:28 GMT
I actually think there is something to that horseshoe idea. The extremes of both opposing wings are both alarming in their extremity, although the extreme right is much more a clear and present danger, currently. I agree with you. As a kid I remember seeing a cup/mug with animals following each other in parade around the rim. Hard to tell exactly where the beginning vs the end of the line was. The caption read: "I'm so far behind I think I'm ahead". It obviously stuck with me. This reminds me of another spin of that. Came from different directions ending up damn near in the same spot. And not necessarily a good one.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 7, 2021 17:09:51 GMT
Yep.. and just to bad she put up with his crap for a lot of years... but she did get out a few years ago, did some dating and now is with a new guy and finally seem to hit a really good one. Time will tell. But she is having fun and sounding like a high school girl these days.. haha. I remember your sister from when she used to post on the old board (you only have the one sister, right?). Always liked her! Glad to hear she’s doing well these days. Thanks!! Yes she dabbled a bit on the old board. It was fun to mess with each other.. as we always do!!
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 7, 2021 17:14:00 GMT
I shared before about this POS and what he put my sister through (he denies he has a porn addiction to this day, although there is solid proof of his cheating (found after divorce), dark web dealings, prostitutes, and even a pimp threatening to kill his family... I mean, it kind of sounds like he's been on task with his current beliefs for quite a while-- is he just coming out of the republican closet now that he's empowered to be more loud about who he's always been? I think they are just finding out... But in the past he never waivered from being a Democrat.. no red flags or anything. But he is GOOD at hiding/denying/false statements/lies/you name it.. so who knows.
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sassyangel
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Post by sassyangel on Jun 8, 2021 14:39:17 GMT
As a kid I remember seeing a cup/mug with animals following each other in parade around the rim. Hard to tell exactly where the beginning vs the end of the line was. The caption read: "I'm so far behind I think I'm ahead". It obviously stuck with me. This reminds me of another spin of that. Came from different directions ending up damn near in the same spot. And not necessarily a good one. Right. I mean I am assuming when that horseshoe refers to Islam on the right, it’s referring to extreme radical ‘burn the world down for a cause’ Islam, definitely not the Islam practiced by millions peacefully. It is interesting to think of that extreme as the philosophical flip (but at the same time the same) side of extreme ‘burn it all down just because’ anarchism
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iluvpink
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Post by iluvpink on Jun 8, 2021 15:24:31 GMT
My now ex stepfather, makes me think of the horseshoe above. I always told my husband that stepfather was so far to the left, he was almost to the right again. I haven't seen or talked to him in about ten or more years. But my half sister recently told me he was a big Trump fan. Which goes against what I knew of him, but yet, doesn't at all shock me either.
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