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Post by angel97701 on Jun 9, 2021 23:38:07 GMT
Looking for another support system, just exhausted at this point. FASD is no joke, adopting a child with FASD and additional Childhood trauma has brought me to the point of exhaustion. These children often target the mother, and right now there has not been relief for many months.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 10, 2021 0:26:45 GMT
I have no answers for you, but I’m sorry for your troubles. Wishing you and your child well.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 10, 2021 0:29:01 GMT
(((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))
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Post by christine58 on Jun 10, 2021 0:32:46 GMT
Do you qualify for some respite care???
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 10, 2021 0:33:56 GMT
Not all Ángels have a halo and wings.
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Post by stormycat on Jun 10, 2021 0:44:42 GMT
Not exactly the same, but I have a son who had a severe TBI, Epilepsy and several other conditions. His injury was a result of injury from his birth parents, so I’m familiar with trauma as well. I’ve also fostered other kids with trauma backgrounds. I know I don’t know your pain, but I understand how hard it is for you.
Please feel free to message me. I’m thinking the best for you, and sending big hugs.
Heather
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Post by malibou on Jun 10, 2021 0:50:37 GMT
FASD is no joke. I have a cousin that has been studying FASD for years. She was instrumental in identifying the facial markers for it.
Is there some help from a state agency?
Thank you for doing all you can to help this child have a good childhood and teaching them the life skills they will need.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 10, 2021 1:42:32 GMT
Having worked in NICUs early in my career, I learned much about the effects of FAS. I know your experience must be beyond what I can even imagine. I wish I had some magic advice. Instead I'm sending a ton of empathy and concern. Is there anything tangible we can do for you?
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Post by natscraps on Jun 10, 2021 2:38:30 GMT
You already know I’m sitting on the bench with you. I’ll keep you in my prayers and hope you get some better days soon.
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Post by angel97701 on Jun 10, 2021 2:39:15 GMT
Yes, after asking for help for almost 2 years, four trips for suicide ideation to ER/County Mental Health, being reports to CPS, sending him to therapy, then wilderness therapy, followed up by experiential therapy we are finally in the loop for a Personal Service Worker. His IQ is high enough that he can "pass" for a normal 15 year old part of the time. He's never passed any state testing, has had an IEP since kindergarten, has never read at grade level, always 2-3 grades behind. He's on a modified diploma after we hired a great SpEd attorney to guide us. (I'm even a teacher so I do already know the law!) It was a very astute Social Worker (our first one from CPS) that mentioned we should apply for Intellectual/Developmental Disability. It's been a long 6 month process to finally secure services. BUT DS doesn't want them. We have 80 hours per month in the summer, 64 during the school year, and 14 days 24-hour respite. In our state for some lunatic reason kids older than 14 can refuse mental health therapy, and at 15 they have a right to medical privacy UNLESS they sign a release of information. This is a kid that functions at 8-10, yet has the expectations in some cases of a 15 year old, very entitled that he can do what ever he wants. Our biggest issue is he picks up Vape pen garbage and tries to use it. When he gets weed into his system all bets are off. Last night was not weed related but simply challenging mom and the final straw was he tampered with the lock on our bedroom door so we had to drill it out. The locks are on rooms to protect belongings and keep him from medication, sharps, etc so he can't self-harm. He has zero impulse control!
We know that God brought this child (and his bio brother now 22) into our family because we are strong and smart. But right now with raging hormones, and his attachment issues, mom is the target. Older DS is an addict living in a homeless shelter despite the fact we got him to graduate from HS with a 3.6 and earn varsity letters in wrestling 4 years, soccer 3 years, and track 2 years. They are siblings 1 and 4, siblings 2 died at 6 months and sibling 3 at age 4 when older DS was 7. They spent 3 years in Russian state care before we adopted them in 10/2010. DS15 weighed only 28 pounds at age almost 4 . . . they've both come a long way, but the light at the end of the tunnel is very dim.
If you are a woman of faith the most tangible thing is to pray. We do have a Go Fund Me set up . . . as last year we spent close to $100K on all his treatments, psychological evaluation and medical bills. But we are at a point that we've been able to cover most of the expenses. We took $$$$ from our retirement, and savings and had some help from family. We are paying off the hospital bills where they did absolutely nothing, just made him worse when he came home. We have a bit of mistrust of the medical/therapy community because they do not truly understand FASD and the propensity to lie, steal, and go through other's belongings without remorse. I know that is organic, brain damage, but sometimes it is soooooo hard! Thanks for letting me vent!
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Post by lucyg on Jun 10, 2021 5:23:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 9:58:23 GMT
I don’t know anything about FAS and looked it up to see what it was and saw this. It is a clinical trial using dog assisted therapy. Dogs seem to be able to reach out to people and help in ways that a person can not. I don’t know if it will help but thought I would share it just in case. intranet.vallhebron.com/sites/default/files/2020-10/Vidal%20et%20al%202020%20DOS-ASSISTED%20THERAPY.pdf Dog-Assisted Therapy for Children and Adolescents With Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders a Randomized Controlled Pilot Study .... nts’ age. The current research is a preliminary pilot study and results must be interpreted with caution due to the small sample size and the low power of the study. Our research suggests that a DAT intervention in combination to pharmacological treatment could benefit children and adolescents with FASD. It is important to note that the completion rate of the program was high and that low rates of dropout were observed, despite the difficulties of engaging this population. DAT may be especially well suited to people with FASD because animals communicate non-verbally, which may be a less stressful form of interaction than a conversation which requires metacognitive and introspective aspects (Jones et al., 2019). We could hypothesize that animals could act as social catalysts, allowing patients to become more willing to communicate and could facilitate improvements in social interaction and behavioral regulation. Thus, DAT intervention would appear to be an acceptable approach in patients with FASD. DATA AVAILABILITY STATEMENT
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Post by Gillyflower on Jun 10, 2021 12:12:43 GMT
Having my two assessed soon as per child safety recommendation (we are carers). I'm sorry, I know how hard it is. Our eldest is currently out of control and threatened to throw a knife at me that he picked up last week. I was comforting his scared brother at the time. We have other diagnoses and trauma but they want to explore FAS. I hear you, it's so exhausting. Also, yes to the locks and all of it for the same reasons.
Gilly.
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Post by malibou on Jun 10, 2021 14:27:07 GMT
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Post by Really Red on Jun 10, 2021 14:35:45 GMT
Oh my heavens. I am sorry I cannot help, but wish you would vent here any time you need to. You are an amazing woman to adopt a child with FASD. I cannot imagine your level of exhaustion. I'm sure you've been online for support groups, but just in case, here is one I found. I am not sure where you are located, but if you're in a big city, I hope there is a local group with whom you can talk. Being a teen is hard, having one feels like it's harder and having one with any sort of issues seems impossible. Your son is lucky to have you. I hope you find a resolution.
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Post by Really Red on Jun 10, 2021 14:36:49 GMT
Having my two assessed soon as per child safety recommendation (we are carers). I'm sorry, I know how hard it is. Our eldest is currently out of control and threatened to throw a knife at me that he picked up last week. I was comforting his scared brother at the time. We have other diagnoses and trauma but they want to explore FAS. I hear you, it's so exhausting. Also, yes to the locks and all of it for the same reasons. Gilly. Lots and lots of hugs to you Gillyflower as well.
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Post by angel97701 on Jun 10, 2021 16:37:30 GMT
@lettuce Thank you for the link!
This describes DS15 the best as this is where he is on the spectrum!
"In contrast, ARND,which accounts for most FASD case, has only neurobehavioralmanifestations and no discernible physical characteristics. Across subtypes, patients with FASD present primary deficits that are the direct consequences of prenatal alcohol exposure;such as reduced memory, inattention, learning disabilities,difficulties in cause-effect thinking, poor social skills, and alsodifficulties in self-regulation. These primary deficits can lead to secondary difficulties such as school failure, legal problems,inappropriate sexual behavior, substance abuse, and difficulties in employment insertion."
They had therapy dogs at Wilderness Therapy . . . we own 4 German Shepherds who do that function as well for therapy. It is one of the reasons we did not want to send him somewhere else after Wilderness Therapy. It seems to much like sending him back to an orphanage.
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Post by Horse scrap on Jun 10, 2021 16:49:51 GMT
My youngest son was diagnosed with FAE (Fetal Alcohol Effects) after his 1st grade teacher said he needed to “get put on Ritalin” so he’d pay attention. We did a complete child development assessment (2 days).... from then on we had to explain to each teacher that it is an organic brain issue and no pill will “fix it”. We struggled in high school with immature behaviors, impulsive actions, struggling academically. When he was a sophomore, we got him his own horse and a friend of friend of mine, who is an Equine Assisted Therapy practitioner, worked with him. The change in him was unbelievable. He still had issues with all the mentioned areas, but they were almost just typical teen behaviors. Today, he is 32 and he has learned to manage almost all of his deficits, and was recruited by the Pipe fitters union, and is working for an HVac company, and doing great. I share this, not to brag, but to give you hope. Is there a hobby, sport, video game, something he is interested in that you could use as a learning leverage? I hope you find answers and the right direction for your son. And don’t be afraid to get yourself some help!! It made a difference for me. Hugs to you....
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Post by natscraps on Jun 10, 2021 18:18:14 GMT
My youngest son was diagnosed with FAE (Fetal Alcohol Effects) after his 1st grade teacher said he needed to “get put on Ritalin” so he’d pay attention. We did a complete child development assessment (2 days).... from then on we had to explain to each teacher that it is an organic brain issue and no pill will “fix it”. We struggled in high school with immature behaviors, impulsive actions, struggling academically. When he was a sophomore, we got him his own horse and a friend of friend of mine, who is an Equine Assisted Therapy practitioner, worked with him. The change in him was unbelievable. He still had issues with all the mentioned areas, but they were almost just typical teen behaviors. Today, he is 32 and he has learned to manage almost all of his deficits, and was recruited by the Pipe fitters union, and is working for an HVac company, and doing great. I share this, not to brag, but to give you hope. Is there a hobby, sport, video game, something he is interested in that you could use as a learning leverage? I hope you find answers and the right direction for your son. And don’t be afraid to get yourself some help!! It made a difference for me. Hugs to you.... Thank you for the hope! OP already knows my story, but I’ll share for the rest of you. DS will be 6 next week and we are currently in the process of having him diagnosed. He came to us at 6 weeks old. As an early childhood teacher I noticed certain behaviors/skills that seemed not quite right by age 1 but were never consistent so we and the doctors noted it in his chart but weren’t overly concerned. We began private PT and OT at age 4 for motor issues. Fast forward to this past year. We decided to delay him from starting kindergarten and put him in a private all day jr kindergarten program instead. Academically he excelled but struggled socially and emotionally. Our OT asked if he had ever been evaluated for FASD. I got to know the OP on the general scrapbook board and with her encouragement realized the earlier we get the formal diagnosis, the better off we are. It won’t change much for us right now, but can open more doors for us as he gets older and needs more support. He can be extremely contrary and has a hard time dealing with the truth and reality but luckily we haven’t had any aggressive behavior, stealing, or destructiveness yet. His teacher this past year was phenomenal with him and has placed DS with a Kindy teacher next year that she thinks will work well with him. We are so blessed to have found a great school that is willing to work with us. We are also extremely fortunate to live 30 minutes from one of the top children’s hospitals in the nation and has a clinic that specializes in FASD. Equine therapy is something I’ll have to keep in mind. We have center not too far from here. My heart goes out to all of you who are caring for these special kids. I know for me it seems like a very lonely world sometimes because people just don’t understand.
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Post by angel97701 on Jun 10, 2021 22:14:10 GMT
My youngest son was diagnosed with FAE (Fetal Alcohol Effects) after his 1st grade teacher said he needed to “get put on Ritalin” so he’d pay attention. We did a complete child development assessment (2 days).... from then on we had to explain to each teacher that it is an organic brain issue and no pill will “fix it”. We struggled in high school with immature behaviors, impulsive actions, struggling academically. When he was a sophomore, we got him his own horse and a friend of friend of mine, who is an Equine Assisted Therapy practitioner, worked with him. The change in him was unbelievable. He still had issues with all the mentioned areas, but they were almost just typical teen behaviors. Today, he is 32 and he has learned to manage almost all of his deficits, and was recruited by the Pipe fitters union, and is working for an HVac company, and doing great. I share this, not to brag, but to give you hope. Is there a hobby, sport, video game, something he is interested in that you could use as a learning leverage? I hope you find answers and the right direction for your son. And don’t be afraid to get yourself some help!! It made a difference for me. Hugs to you.... Thank you for the encouragement, I do not take it as a brag at all . . . but a success story that we hope to emulate! That is why we are working so hard to get supports in place. He is a wrestler, and a biker. We are looking into the summer programs for riding in our area. But he has to agree to go . . . which is sometimes a struggle!
natscraps--we are part of club that we didn't particularly join by choice, but with help and God's grace we can preserve!
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 11, 2021 8:27:06 GMT
This sounds like my nephew, ( my sister’s son), so much. His teen years were beyond hard. His small town school basically gave up on him. His mom was too busy with her own issues, and his stepdad was crazy busy between work and my sister’s exploits.
I ended up tutoring him every day, helping him see that he wasn’t hopelessly stupid, which was what everyone had made him feel. That worked for several years, until he got into fights with his parents and went to live with my other sister, where her husband took the boy under his wing and really built him up.
He’s now in his 30’s, a family man and a homeowner. It’s still not easy. He continues to have impulse and temper problems. His wife is incredibly patient and understanding. But he has frankly surpassed all our unspoken expectations and we are so happy about that. ( sadly, my sister went off the deep end and left her family for a life of drugs, alcohol and partying. )
For my nephew, it was having so many people who believed in him, and being steered into jobs where he felt productive and capable. As you are a family of faith, I will include that it was a large faith family that was always there for him.
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Post by lucyg on Jun 11, 2021 19:15:46 GMT
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 11, 2021 20:10:20 GMT
Has he been diagnosed with reactive attachment disorder? It certainly sounds like that may be in play as well. If he had that diagnosis would that enable more services?
I am so sorry. I will keep your family in my prayers.
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Post by angel97701 on Jun 12, 2021 3:58:27 GMT
@skellinton We've not had a formal diagnosis of RAD, but as with most adopted kiddos especially when they reached puberty go off the charts with their hormonal responses. And unfortunately often the Mother is the prime target. Since he can refuse mental health therapy in our state at 14, we don't know if we will get that as a diagnosis. Before he was 12 him seemed well attached, but older bio brother was a huge negative influence. The six months it took to get the I/DD services was plenty long, and we just need to get them all implemented. Thank you so much lucyg. We are hoping to do some cycling programs with DS this summer, with a private lesson to determine his placement and his cooperation level. Our other expenses will be enrichment in nature, as the $565 a day for 80 days at Wilderness Therapy didn't seem to have a lasting effect. We need to keep him as busy as possible with supervision this summer. His best friend moved to Iowa for school last year, but will hopefully be back in town in early August. Thanks for everyone's thoughts and support!
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Post by straggler on Jun 15, 2021 4:37:16 GMT
While I am not a parent, I am a Grandma to two FAS young men. While most of my experience is not first-hand I do have an understanding of what you are dealing with and your exhaustion. Hugs to you! The plight of raising a FAS child is a very difficult and lonely struggle. I have watched my daughter deal with the issues associated with this syndrome for 26 years, the wars she has fought for her boys have been many. Some won, some lost, but she has always been steadfast in her attempt to do what is right for her boys. Some of the issues you have experienced with your son, we have also experienced. The older boy was adopted as an infant and we had no idea of what laid ahead. At about 3-4, we began to suspect "something" amiss. Then my daughter and son-in-law were notified that there was an almost 3-year old brother who was in foster care and would they be interested in adoption. They were told that he had some speech delay, but that he had suffered numerous ear infections and they believed that was the cause. He was absolutely precious! We welcomed him "home" with a great deal of joy. My daughter and son in law decided to have him checked out at Riley Hospital for Children in Indianapolis, IN for the speech delay. After a couple of visits, a doctor mentioned FAS to Mom & Dad and after a work up, the diagnosis was official. Of course this threw up a red flag in regard to the older boy and he too was then given an FAS diagnosis.
The boys have both graduated high school and each resides in a group home. They will never be able to live alone, but if you would have asked me 12-15 years ago what their future would be, I would never have believed they would be doing as well as they are. Are there still issues? Yes, and there always will be, these kids can't be "fixed". I have no doubt there are thousands of FAS kids out there who have never been diagnosed. These kids are another segment of society which is not highly valued by folks. Thank God for parents like you and my daughter who fight the battle every day to give them the best life they can have! My late husband used to say DD would have extra jewels in her crown in Heaven! You will too!
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Post by waffles on Jun 16, 2021 4:11:59 GMT
When I was teaching, it was common place to send the kids in for a few days to adjust the medicines due to hormones. I feel for you and wish you the best. You are an angel!
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Post by lucyg on Dec 16, 2021 2:27:53 GMT
I’m just quoting myself and bumping this thread, because angel97701 recently updated the GoFundMe, and I think they could use a little more help. Maybe someone who missed it first time around might like to kick in a few bucks? Her kid needs help.
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