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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2021 15:31:31 GMT
Breaking news. MSNBC.
I have no other info... Have been on important phone call but caught it on TV
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2021 15:57:14 GMT
(CNN)The Justice Department is suing Georgia over new voting restrictions enacted as part of Republican efforts nationwide to limit voting access in the wake of President Donald Trump's election defeat. The state law imposes new voter identification requirements for absentee ballots, empowers state officials to take over local elections boards, limits the use of ballot drop boxes and makes it a crime to approach voters in line to give them food and water. www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/politics/justice-georgia-voting/index.html
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Post by Merge on Jun 25, 2021 16:59:01 GMT
Good. I hope they sue Texas, next.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 25, 2021 17:15:26 GMT
Dang right. Sink the For the People Act? We sue. “Georgia law…enacted for the purpose of denying or abridging the right of black Georgians to vote on account of their race or color in violation of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.”
Now let’s do everything we can to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act to restore Section 5 which the Supreme Court gutted!
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Post by lindas on Jun 25, 2021 17:57:36 GMT
(CNN)The Justice Department is suing Georgia over new voting restrictions enacted as part of Republican efforts nationwide to limit voting access in the wake of President Donald Trump's election defeat. The state law imposes new voter identification requirements for absentee ballots, empowers state officials to take over local elections boards, limits the use of ballot drop boxes and makes it a crime to approach voters in line to give them food and water. www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/politics/justice-georgia-voting/index.htmlThen maybe they should sue Delaware and a few other states too. With the exception of state officials and local elections boards our voting laws are more restrictive then what they passed in GA.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2021 18:01:30 GMT
Did Delaware rush to pass voter suppressions laws since the first of the year, 2021? I hadn't heard that. Do you have a link for the new laws in Delaware?
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Post by hop2 on Jun 25, 2021 18:04:07 GMT
Good. I hope they sue Texas, next. And Arizona after that ( and maybe PA although I just sent 2 voters there who aren’t conservative every vote counts right )
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 25, 2021 18:05:16 GMT
Good. I hope they sue Texas, next. And Arizona after that ( and maybe PA although I just sent 2 voters there who aren’t conservative every vote counts right ) and Florida...although it done falls, the rest should
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 25, 2021 18:08:22 GMT
(CNN)The Justice Department is suing Georgia over new voting restrictions enacted as part of Republican efforts nationwide to limit voting access in the wake of President Donald Trump's election defeat. The state law imposes new voter identification requirements for absentee ballots, empowers state officials to take over local elections boards, limits the use of ballot drop boxes and makes it a crime to approach voters in line to give them food and water. www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/politics/justice-georgia-voting/index.htmlThen maybe they should sue Delaware and a few other states too. With the exception of state officials and local elections boards our voting laws are more restrictive then what they passed in GA. the state officials and local election board is HUGE!!! But limiting access to polls is also a bunch of bullshit
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Post by lizacreates on Jun 25, 2021 18:18:24 GMT
Democrats move to expand voter access in Delaware as GOP support wanes post-2020 electionAs many states consider law changes that would make it harder for people to vote, Delaware is moving in the opposite direction. The Democratic-controlled Statehouse is trying to pass several bills before the next election that would make it easier for people to register to vote and cast their ballot, reshaping the state's democratic process for years to come. If the bills pass, residents could get automatically registered when getting their driver's license. They could also register on the same day as the election instead of having to do it at least a month beforehand. Voters could also vote by mail and wouldn't need an excuse to vote absentee, similar to the 2020 election during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Post by flanz on Jun 25, 2021 18:21:40 GMT
I hope the DOJ can right so many wrongs that have been enacted in State Houses around the country! PLEASE LET IT WORK!
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Post by cycworker on Jun 25, 2021 18:46:45 GMT
Good.
I have never understood the resistance to same day registration. We have it here. Now, admittedly, we have voter id laws, but we also supports in place for those who can't afford to get/replace identification or supporting documents (say, a lost birth certificate).
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Post by Merge on Jun 25, 2021 18:49:41 GMT
Good. I have never understood the resistance to same day registration. We have it here. Now, admittedly, we have voter id laws, but we also supports in place for those who can't afford to get/replace identification or supporting documents (say, a lost birth certificate). I have zero problem with voter ID if there are supports in place for those who need it. That is not the case at all here. Even those of us with ample time and access have to take a whole day off work to wait in line to renew our drivers license.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2021 19:21:37 GMT
Manchin and 'friends' proposed ID, using utility bills ... Even I get one of those. (Gas company charges a fee for any online payment and auto pay. I refused, I have free checks and $.55 Forever stamps well below their charge!)
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 25, 2021 19:43:34 GMT
(CNN)The Justice Department is suing Georgia over new voting restrictions enacted as part of Republican efforts nationwide to limit voting access in the wake of President Donald Trump's election defeat. The state law imposes new voter identification requirements for absentee ballots, empowers state officials to take over local elections boards, limits the use of ballot drop boxes and makes it a crime to approach voters in line to give them food and water. www.cnn.com/2021/06/25/politics/justice-georgia-voting/index.htmlThen maybe they should sue Delaware and a few other states too. With the exception of state officials and local elections boards our voting laws are more restrictive then what they passed in GA. Do Delaware’s laws target poor, black or minority communities? Did Delaware remove ballot boxes from urban and suburban areas? Do Delaware voters have to wait in line for 8-10 hours outside in oppressive heat? Delaware’s laws are not more restrictive. www.npr.org/2021/06/25/1010259443/in-suing-georgia-justice-department-says-states-new-voting-law-targets-black-votwww.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.htmlThe Republican legislature and governor have made a breathtaking assertion of partisan power in elections, making absentee voting harder and creating restrictions and complications in the wake of narrow losses to DemocratsThe Georgia law does a lot to restrict voting beyond making it illegal to give water. For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.
There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
Last year, Fulton County, which includes most of Atlanta, had two recreational vehicles that traversed the county during the early voting periods, effectively bringing polling sites to people at churches, parks and public libraries. In the November election, more than 11,200 people voted at the two vehicles in Fulton County.Georgia has now outlawed this practice, unless the governor declares a state of emergency to allow it — something that Mr. Kemp, a Republican, is unlikely to do given that it could increase voter turnout in Atlanta.We should celebrate the number of people that voted in 2020 and make voting easier, not more difficult, for everyone. Delaware and other blue states have room for improvement and could expand absentee voting and early voting.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 25, 2021 20:03:07 GMT
She won't answer.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 25, 2021 20:11:15 GMT
I know. She probably won’t read my post either. And just like former, she never admits when she makes a mistake or posts something inaccurate. I just wanted to show her and other peas who might only get their news from Fox, that the new voting laws in Georgia are, in fact more restrictive and targeted at Democratic voters.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 25, 2021 20:15:38 GMT
Manchin and 'friends' proposed ID, using utility bills ... Even I got one of those. (Gas company charges a fee for any online payment and auto pay. I refused, I have free checks and $.55 Forever stamps well below their charge!) My one utility company charges a fee for an online auto payment from my checking but credit card is free. My other utility payment charges a fee fir credit card but auto pay from my checking is free. Weird. I pick which ever auto pay is free. I still auto pay my cc from my bank and I get points to boot so that’s fine. But yeah, I’m not paying a $2.5 fee to pay you. Hell no.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 25, 2021 21:02:26 GMT
Manchin and 'friends' proposed ID, using utility bills ... Even I got one of those. (Gas company charges a fee for any online payment and auto pay. I refused, I have free checks and $.55 Forever stamps well below their charge!) My one utility company charges a fee for an online auto payment from my checking but credit card is free. My other utility payment charges a fee fir credit card but auto pay from my checking is free. Weird. I pick which ever auto pay is free. I still auto pay my cc from my bank and I get points to boot so that’s fine. But yeah, I’m not paying a $2.5 fee to pay you. Hell no. I realized after a couple of months my town charges $10 to pay the water bill online. I do not understand people who continue to pay online
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Post by lindas on Jun 25, 2021 23:37:35 GMT
Then maybe they should sue Delaware and a few other states too. With the exception of state officials and local elections boards our voting laws are more restrictive then what they passed in GA. Do Delaware’s laws target poor, black or minority communities? Did Delaware remove ballot boxes from urban and suburban areas? Do Delaware voters have to wait in line for 8-10 hours outside in oppressive heat? Delaware’s laws are not more restrictive. www.npr.org/2021/06/25/1010259443/in-suing-georgia-justice-department-says-states-new-voting-law-targets-black-votwww.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.htmlThe Republican legislature and governor have made a breathtaking assertion of partisan power in elections, making absentee voting harder and creating restrictions and complications in the wake of narrow losses to DemocratsThe Georgia law does a lot to restrict voting beyond making it illegal to give water. For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.
There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
Last year, Fulton County, which includes most of Atlanta, had two recreational vehicles that traversed the county during the early voting periods, effectively bringing polling sites to people at churches, parks and public libraries. In the November election, more than 11,200 people voted at the two vehicles in Fulton County.Georgia has now outlawed this practice, unless the governor declares a state of emergency to allow it — something that Mr. Kemp, a Republican, is unlikely to do given that it could increase voter turnout in Atlanta.We should celebrate the number of people that voted in 2020 and make voting easier, not more difficult, for everyone. Delaware and other blue states have room for improvement and could expand absentee voting and early voting. No drop boxes, no early voting, no mail in voting. There’s a limited list of reasons for requesting an absentee ballot and you need to show ID to vote. Heat here in Nov isn’t a problem but it can get be cold, rainy and windy, you wait in line or you don’t vote. You can bring food or drink but poll workers aren’t allowed to offer you anything.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 26, 2021 0:01:44 GMT
Do Delaware’s laws target poor, black or minority communities? Did Delaware remove ballot boxes from urban and suburban areas? Do Delaware voters have to wait in line for 8-10 hours outside in oppressive heat? Delaware’s laws are not more restrictive. www.npr.org/2021/06/25/1010259443/in-suing-georgia-justice-department-says-states-new-voting-law-targets-black-votwww.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.htmlThe Republican legislature and governor have made a breathtaking assertion of partisan power in elections, making absentee voting harder and creating restrictions and complications in the wake of narrow losses to DemocratsThe Georgia law does a lot to restrict voting beyond making it illegal to give water. For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.
There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
Last year, Fulton County, which includes most of Atlanta, had two recreational vehicles that traversed the county during the early voting periods, effectively bringing polling sites to people at churches, parks and public libraries. In the November election, more than 11,200 people voted at the two vehicles in Fulton County.Georgia has now outlawed this practice, unless the governor declares a state of emergency to allow it — something that Mr. Kemp, a Republican, is unlikely to do given that it could increase voter turnout in Atlanta.We should celebrate the number of people that voted in 2020 and make voting easier, not more difficult, for everyone. Delaware and other blue states have room for improvement and could expand absentee voting and early voting. No drop boxes, no early voting, no mail in voting. There’s a limited list of reasons for requesting an absentee ballot and you need to show ID to vote. Heat here in Nov isn’t a problem but it can get be cold, rainy and windy, you wait in line or you don’t vote. You can bring food or drink but poll workers aren’t allowed to offer you anything. Your statements about Delaware are inaccurate. - They do have drop boxes, which are located at their county election offices and you must use the drop box from the county that issued your absentee ballot. - Delaware passed early voting in 2019 but it doesn’t go in effect until 2022 so if you go by when the laws go into place - yes Delaware will have early voting. - no-excuse absentee ballots were allowed due to the pandemic in 2020 and the legislature is working to make that permanent going forward. - the laws in Delaware state nothing of value can be given but it does not specifically mention food or water and it has not ever been challenged as an issue. - lastly Delaware allows a signed polling place card or a signed social security card (both without photos) as valid voter ID. Georgia requires a photo and will not allow a polling place card or social security card to count in order to vote.
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Post by Merge on Jun 26, 2021 0:07:47 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 26, 2021 0:08:38 GMT
To my knowledge last year was the first year NJ had drop boxes. Many were at municipal facilities and/or countywide. In my town it was at the town hall but by the police dept door, which could be moved inside for 24/7 drop off. Unfortunately absentee and mail in have become interchangeable. I have a absentee ballot, which can be mailed or dropped off at the board of election offices and to drop off there I do need to show ID. GA is saying NO ONE can give out water or snacks particularly while voters are waiting in line. As a retired former poll clerk/judge/inspector of 30 years, I have never seen a wait of over 2 hours, rarely if ever not even that. As a poll worker we never gave out snacks or water. There was a water fountain in the room though. It was a public building.
Without my mailing/absentee ballot I would not be able to vote. That should not be an option for any eligible citizen!!
As an aside, I could drive to Delaware and back in less time then others think it is ok for voters to wait on line.
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Post by aj2hall on Jun 26, 2021 0:10:53 GMT
The other point about Georgia’s voting laws that you seem to be missing is that they were passed early this year as a reaction to the 2020 election. The law is more restrictive than 2020 and even 2019 in some cases.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 26, 2021 0:35:39 GMT
The other point about Georgia’s voting laws that you seem to be missing is that they were passed early this year as a reaction to the 2020 election. The law is more restrictive than 2020 and even 2019 in some cases. That's why I asked if she was posting about new voter laws since Jan 2021. We know voter laws are all over the place nationally. So the comparison has to be since Jan 2021..
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 26, 2021 2:02:57 GMT
Do Delaware’s laws target poor, black or minority communities? Did Delaware remove ballot boxes from urban and suburban areas? Do Delaware voters have to wait in line for 8-10 hours outside in oppressive heat? Delaware’s laws are not more restrictive. www.npr.org/2021/06/25/1010259443/in-suing-georgia-justice-department-says-states-new-voting-law-targets-black-votwww.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.htmlThe Republican legislature and governor have made a breathtaking assertion of partisan power in elections, making absentee voting harder and creating restrictions and complications in the wake of narrow losses to DemocratsThe Georgia law does a lot to restrict voting beyond making it illegal to give water. For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.
There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
Last year, Fulton County, which includes most of Atlanta, had two recreational vehicles that traversed the county during the early voting periods, effectively bringing polling sites to people at churches, parks and public libraries. In the November election, more than 11,200 people voted at the two vehicles in Fulton County.Georgia has now outlawed this practice, unless the governor declares a state of emergency to allow it — something that Mr. Kemp, a Republican, is unlikely to do given that it could increase voter turnout in Atlanta.We should celebrate the number of people that voted in 2020 and make voting easier, not more difficult, for everyone. Delaware and other blue states have room for improvement and could expand absentee voting and early voting. No drop boxes, no early voting, no mail in voting. There’s a limited list of reasons for requesting an absentee ballot and you need to show ID to vote. Heat here in Nov isn’t a problem but it can get be cold, rainy and windy, you wait in line or you don’t vote. You can bring food or drink but poll workers aren’t allowed to offer you anything. So…you’re agreeing that Delaware has it much better than Georgia, right?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 26, 2021 2:04:34 GMT
The other point about Georgia’s voting laws that you seem to be missing is that they were passed early this year as a reaction to the 2020 election. The law is more restrictive than 2020 and even 2019 in some cases. Oh she’s not missing anything, she’s purposefully and blatantly ignoring them. She knows exactly what republicans are doing, gladly votes for what they are doing, supports them 100%.
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Post by lindas on Jun 26, 2021 2:15:06 GMT
No drop boxes, no early voting, no mail in voting. There’s a limited list of reasons for requesting an absentee ballot and you need to show ID to vote. Heat here in Nov isn’t a problem but it can get be cold, rainy and windy, you wait in line or you don’t vote. You can bring food or drink but poll workers aren’t allowed to offer you anything. Your statements about Delaware are inaccurate. - They do have drop boxes, which are located at their county election offices and you must use the drop box from the county that issued your absentee ballot. - Delaware passed early voting in 2019 but it doesn’t go in effect until 2022 so if you go by when the laws go into place - yes Delaware will have early voting. - no-excuse absentee ballots were allowed due to the pandemic in 2020 and the legislature is working to make that permanent going forward. - the laws in Delaware state nothing of value can be given but it does not specifically mention food or water and it has not ever been challenged as an issue. - lastly Delaware allows a signed polling place card or a signed social security card (both without photos) as valid voter ID. Georgia requires a photo and will not allow a polling place card or social security card to count in order to vote. Drop boxes were used in 2020 due to the pandemic and the county election offices were only open until 4:30pm. Yes, early voting is due to go in effect in 2022 but until then DE never had it. No-excuse absentee was also only due to the pandemic. Correct, it doesn’t mention food and water specifically but in all my years of voting here I’ve never seen a poll worker offer anything to people in line. I didn’t specify what type of ID only that you needed ID. I personally feel that the best form of ID is a photo ID and I think states should find a way to make it easier for people to get one.
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Post by 16joy on Jun 26, 2021 2:21:31 GMT
The Atlantic article is stretching claiming it’s harder for absentee voters because one has to write their ID number on the ballot. Who thinks that really makes it harder? It takes longer when I hand over my license in personal to have it checked against the screen, the poll worker to again look at it to verify my picture, scan the back of the license and look at the screen agin for permission to give me the card for the machine. if I wrote the number on an absentee ballet, it would be quicker. I’m not sure how the number of months to request a ballot disenfranchises any segment of Georgians more than another. Perhaps someone has an answer to that one.
Drop boxes are now required. My county election office oversees Everything to do with elections in my county. I have yet to hear a Georgia citizen complain because a drop they used is going away. I read the news (ajc)online and my mom watches the local news. The post office is available to mail ballots and can be mailed at the location you get your mail. I do think the drop boxes should be in a secure location with a camera. No voter should lose their vote because a someone can easily steal a Dropbox.
You can call for a delivery of food or drink if you get to the point you need nourishment. A water fountain is available inside every voting place that I’m aware of. We Georgians are typically a friendly bunch and I’d save someone’s place in line if they needed to go to the water fountain.
I don’t agree with a non elected State official To be appointed by the legislature to control elections.. I’d prefer the ability for the citizens to vote out/recall any SOS that wasn’t doing the job.
..... I was able to walk straight to the check in computer for The Election for our 2 US senators . They had to wait for me to get my license out. I expected at least a little line, but no one was there. My daughter left and came back to her polling place because the computers were down and help was on the way. My daughter votes in Fulton County (Atlanta city) where her line was 2 hours long in November. She didn’t complain and didn’t need a stranger to bring her food or drink.
I do believe Fulton County needs new election leadership. They weren’t finished with election by March, so some workers had no training in 2020. I’m not sure new leadership could have prevented the long waits in some areas during Covid. According to the AJC paper, the usual poll workers for some places would not work during Covid due to their age and they couldn’t get enough other people to work those sites. Fulton county is a long county. I can see where someone from one end of the county wouldn’t want to drive to the other end to work an election. There’s precovid stories that indicate a shake up is needed as well.
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Post by 16joy on Jun 26, 2021 2:40:07 GMT
If you can’t afford a Georgia photo ID, you can get a Georgia ID for free(it’s not the drivers license). If you can’t get to the DMV, the state will provide for someone to come to you. If you are old enough where your birth wasn’t recorded, a state official will verify your approx age through your longtime friends or family. Those were possible issues when the voter ID law was discussed and the burden was put on the state to see you got an ID.
Personally, I’d like political people and groups to not be able to randomly text my cell phone. I have it for my convenience instead of your need to convince me to vote for you or anyone / any way you want me to vote. It was unreal in the state of Georgia. I was clearly marked as a swing voter even though my mind was made up long before. It was so bad that I sometimes texted back you suck. It didn’t lessen the texts, but it made me feel better for one second until I regain my sense.
The mail was unreal as well. The trees that gave their life.
Be glad you weren’t in Georgia this election cycle
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