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Post by tiffanyr on Jun 29, 2021 5:56:10 GMT
My ex has bought my 20DS a motorcycle! I didn’t find out about it until after the fact. I hate motorcycles and I am petrified that something is going to happen but not sure I can say anything. I realize it’s too late at this point but I am so pissed! DS isn’t a horrible driver but he has had a few fender benders since he started driving at 16, but I just don’t think a 20yo should have a motorcycle. What I really want to say to ex is “when our son seriously injures himself it is all on you!”, but I haven’t!! Do I have a right to say something to ex?
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Post by malibou on Jun 29, 2021 6:37:55 GMT
Yeah yeah yeah, I get that a 20 year old is legally an adult, but this would piss me off. I'm willing to bet your ex knew how you felt which is why you weren't informed. As far as anything driving related goes, 16 - 23 year olds don't need motorcycles.
I would certainly talk to your ex and express your feelings about this. Unfortunately, the ship has sailed. I'm not sure you can pull it back. If it were me, there would be a lot of safety training courses.
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Post by arrow on Jun 29, 2021 6:37:56 GMT
Be happy for DS. Show interest in the bike. Can you invest in a rider training/safety course for him? Are riders required to wear safety gear? If so, take him shopping if you can afford to.
How about encouraging him to ride off road? Moto x or trial rides might be more his style.
Don’t say anything to the X. He might be looking for a reaction - don’t give him the satisfaction 😂
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Post by nlwilkins on Jun 29, 2021 9:02:07 GMT
There really is nothing you can do. He is 20 and if he has the motorcycle "fever" there is no stopping him.
My husband started riding motorcycles and owning them in his teens and has always had a motorcycle or two. He is 79 this year. We have quite a few friends that ride motorcycles. The most important thing to remember is to be sure to wear your helmet, leathers (to protect your skin from road rash) and to know what you are doing. He needs lots of practice. Encourage him to practice and learn how to handle his bike in all kinds of situations. The more he knows and the better he becomes, the less nervous you will become.
But, in my opinion, the most important safety precaution is the helmet. He should never go without one, even just to go around the block. Helmets are expensive, so you might invest in a good one for him so he doesn't skimp. He should get a new one because helmets that have been dropped are damaged and the "insides" are no longer good. It has something to do with the special gel and composition of the lining. It should also be the right size.
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Post by cakediva on Jun 29, 2021 12:05:49 GMT
Here you have to take a motorcycle course to get your license to drive it. And helmets are mandatory as well.
I'd still be nervous as hell though.
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Post by peabay on Jun 29, 2021 12:13:58 GMT
I would not be happy either. At all. I hate motorcycles.
It's done now though so I would do what others have suggested: enroll him in a safety course and make this as safe as possible for him.
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 29, 2021 12:14:13 GMT
I’ll validate you. He is an adult and you can do nothing, but that would scare the pants off of me.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jun 29, 2021 14:48:36 GMT
He is an adult...so I would just let it be... My DD took a motorcycle driving course when she turned 18. I wasn't happy but I just have to let it go. She hasn't ridden much since then though. Although we do come from a family that has had dirt bikes and ATVs so she is very familiar with riding.
It's just part of letting go and letting them make decisions. Our kids are all proactive in helmets and wearing the proper clothing.. What kills me is to see these guys and gals out there with tank tops and flip flops on. Even a small fall down accident will be the last time someone will choose to wear that kind of clothing.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 29, 2021 14:57:24 GMT
I totally understand where you are coming from. My nephew loved motorcycles, wore his helmet and leather clothes, all the safety stuff. Three years ago a large SVU did not see him due to sun in the driver's eyes and my nephew was killed. He was only in his late 20's.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Jun 29, 2021 15:53:57 GMT
State law will determine the helmet and/or rider safety courses needed.
If he chooses not to wear a helmet, be aware there may mandatory safety courses or insurance. Whose auto/motorcycle insurance will he be on? Since you don’t approve of the motorcycle, I think it’s reasonable that he should carry and pay for his own insurance. Check to see how riding a cycle will impact his life and health insurance. He should be responsible for those payments too.
My older, non-helmet wearing brother went over the top of his cycle and struck his head on a stone wall. It’s not a story cycle riders want to hear - because, well that will never happen to them.
I’ll admit I’m biased and jaded. We call helmet-less motorcycle riders “organ donors”.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 29, 2021 16:19:23 GMT
I'd be pissed, but I wouldn't say anything. You can't control your ex and your son is an adult
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 29, 2021 16:20:49 GMT
I totally understand where you are coming from. My nephew loved motorcycles, wore his helmet and leather clothes, all the safety stuff. Three years ago a large SVU did not see him due to sun in the driver's eyes and my nephew was killed. He was only in his late 20's. I'm so sorry for the loss of your nephew. ((((HUGS)))).
I would make a safety course and an advanced rider course and mandate appropriate gear, including helmets. Your ex had no business buying him something of this magnitude without discussing it w/you first. Now we know why he's your ex.
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Post by Judie in Oz on Jun 29, 2021 16:24:22 GMT
I’ll admit I’m biased and jaded. We call helmet-less motorcycle riders “organ donors”. My brother is an Emergency Specialist. In most ERs where he has worked they call motorcycle riders "donor of the week". My youngest son is working on getting his motorcycle license. I am petrified, even though he wants to ride a scooter rather than a full bike. Not much I can do except make sure he wears safety gear and obeys all the road rules.
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Post by J u l e e on Jun 29, 2021 16:39:06 GMT
For any situation or rite of passage where I was nervous for my daughter, I would try my best to not show it and pull out my Trust Speech. After you’ve done what you can providing information on dangers and safety, etc., you have to hand their life over to them. I start with a big hug and “I love you. I trust you. I know how smart you are. I’ve seen you make amazing choices. Have a safe and fun time doing XYZ .”
I mean, I’ve seen her make crappy choices too and she knows that. But I believe it means something to them when we continually call out their better nature.
I’d be really ticked off. I hate motorcycles.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 29, 2021 17:23:01 GMT
I would be very upset if my ex had purchased a motorcycle for our son too. I hate them. And it isn't just the skill of the bike rider that I fear, but the drivers in cars that sometimes just don't see them and cause accidents. I don't think it would be bad to have a discussion about motorcycle safety and to even offer to pay for a motorcycle safety course. I would also make sure he had the best helmet available. And I would be hoping that he outgrew the bike quickly. If I could afford it, I would be considering buying a little pickup for him instead.
This is just a weird thing that happened after my nephew purchased a motorcycle for himself. As much as I hate them, it wasn't my place to say anything and my sister didn't seem to mind. He had owned it for about a month. I lived about 100 miles from my sister's house so I didn't see them that often.
I was grocery shopping in Costco with my ex fiance when suddenly, out of absolutely nowhere, I got an overpowering need to warn my nephew to be very careful with the motorcycle. I have no idea why that popped into my head at that moment. I said something to my fiance and he kind of laughed at me. I had gotten very strong thoughts like this throughout my life and they had always been accurate, especially when they were about my dad. I tried to keep shopping but I felt this dread feeling so strongly that I had to just stop and call my sister immediately.
My nephew still lived with my sister. Mom and Dad were staying there for a visit and Mom answered the phone. I told her my feeling that was getting more and more urgent. She said that my nephew had just left on the motorcycle but she would have either my sister, who was out running errands, or my nephew call me when he returned. She tried to reassure me that my nephew was a careful kid, which I knew was true, but that didn't help me with this anxiety.
We continued to shop, but I was extremely uneasy. About 20 minutes later, my cell phone rang. It was my mom. She said my sister was returning home from her errands and came upon an accident in the roadway. It was my nephew on his motorcycle. They lived in a fairly remote area and the fastest way to get him help was for her to put him in her car and drive him back down the mountain to the hospital. She called Mom to let her know when she was almost back into town and finally receiving cell service.
My nephew was quite hurt with multiple broken bones, punctured lung, and a concussion. The helmet he had on was cracked, so I can imagine what the impact would have been on his head without one. My sister had left the motorcycle on the side of the road where she found my nephew. She called his best friend to tell him about the accident and he offered to go collect it while my nephew was in surgery. I guess their intention was to repair it back to good-as-new condition while my nephew healed.
When he was finally released from the hospital and they were driving back home, my sister said he never once asked about the bike, not even when they were driving through the area where the accident occurred. When his best friend came to the house to visit him, he told him that his motorcycle was being repaired and almost finished. My nephew told them that he didn't want to even see it again and they ended up selling it after it was finished.
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Post by Really Red on Jun 29, 2021 18:36:24 GMT
I have a 20yo son. I truly hate that he is an "adult" now. I am not joking about that. I feel you tiffanyr, I really do. I hope you are able to sit down with your son and talk to him. Not at him, but to him. It's a super fine line because I know most 20yos know more than you do (I am kidding of course). I would also be terrified. Your ex is stupid.
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Post by tiffanyr on Jun 29, 2021 19:08:17 GMT
Thanks everyone for validating me! I am going to talk to my son and offer to pay for a motorcycle course.
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