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Post by freecharlie on Jul 28, 2021 16:10:52 GMT
They get a 4% raise (I think over 2 years) and a guaranteed ONE DAY OFF.
While the union is going to ratify this contract, I hope it reminds people why unions are important.
they had to strike to get ONE day guaranteed off a week
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Jul 28, 2021 16:15:26 GMT
I saw people complaining on Facebook that they couldn't find Frito's anywhere because of the strike. I was like, gee imagine how annoyed you'd be is you made shit money and never got a day off. But so sorry you can't find your chips. *insert biggest sarcastic eye roll possible here*
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 28, 2021 16:23:04 GMT
I saw people complaining on Facebook that they couldn't find Frito's anywhere because of the strike. I was like, gee imagine how annoyed you'd be is you made shit money and never got a day off. But so sorry you can't find your chips. *insert biggest sarcastic eye roll possible here* I had a discussion with my kids about why we would not be buying products from them for the time being. I have no idea if the 20 year old listened, but the 17 yo did. Of course. I am our association's (union) president, so...
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jul 28, 2021 16:53:29 GMT
Jeez, I had no idea they worked 7 days a week!
I know it's a different company, but I wonder if this is why I cannot find certain flavors of the International Delight coffee creamer flavors. I can't find my amaretto flavored creamer for MONTHS, and according to their FB page, there was a disruption in production at the factory and should be returning this month. Well that was early July and it looks like they have been saying that for several months...
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Post by magellen on Jul 28, 2021 16:58:41 GMT
Didn’t even notice.
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 28, 2021 19:39:19 GMT
I was like, gee imagine how annoyed you'd be is you made shit money and never got a day off. Be a farmer/rancher. I haven't followed their situation too closely, but it does sound like an awful work environment. Something has got to give at some point, with people at the top making beyond ridiculous salaries, and the people who make it work getting poverty wages. When Bezo's thanked the people who shop at Amazon and the workers for making it possible for him to (almost) go to space, I wanted to puke. I think twice about any purchases from Amazon and have changed my shopping as much as I can.
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Post by pinklady on Jul 28, 2021 20:23:33 GMT
Unions are not the end all be all in 2021. They were necessary many many years ago but now they are just another corrupt big business. Also, are there no other jobs available anywhere except Frito Lay?
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Post by Merge on Jul 28, 2021 20:32:42 GMT
Unions are not the end all be all in 2021. They were necessary many many years ago but now they are just another corrupt big business. Also, are there no other jobs available anywhere except Frito Lay? It’s a smallish city in Kansas. Jobs are probably not very plentiful. And even if they were, I strongly disagree with you that unions are no longer necessary. The lack of union protection is exactly how these people ended up with these awful working conditions.
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jul 28, 2021 20:52:27 GMT
DH and I were members of this same union, working for a different company.
At that time, we were actually paid quite well for jobs that required no education, plus had really great insurance. Now my DH receives a pension that will pay out to me after he is gone for my lifetime. The trade off for the good pay and benefits was bad working conditions and bad schedules, and that was what led to his early retirement for medical reasons and my leaving the company for a much lower paying job with no benefits but a better schedule.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 28, 2021 21:05:29 GMT
Unions are not the end all be all in 2021. They were necessary many many years ago but now they are just another corrupt big business. Also, are there no other jobs available anywhere except Frito Lay? I disagree about the corrupt big business. Perhaps some are, but the rest fight for their people Amazon does not have a union and is shows in their working conditions. Teachers without strong unions are often in a bind. I think unions may not have been as important for a while, but they are back to being extremely important with the greed of the businesses and the lack of caring from the government
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Post by tracylynn on Jul 28, 2021 21:08:50 GMT
Unions are not the end all be all in 2021. They were necessary many many years ago but now they are just another corrupt big business. Also, are there no other jobs available anywhere except Frito Lay? Sorry, that is absolutely not true across the board. Some are corrupt, for sure. But not all, and they are still very important in some Industries.
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 28, 2021 21:26:34 GMT
Unions are not the end all be all in 2021. They were necessary many many years ago but now they are just another corrupt big business. Also, are there no other jobs available anywhere except Frito Lay? I disagree they’re not necessary. They are still a check and balance when companies/legislators attempt to roll back employee protections. I see the huge difference in working conditions/wages/employee benefits in the construction industry between trades here that are unionized and those that are not.
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 31, 2021 12:52:25 GMT
It’s a smallish city in Kansas. Jobs are probably not very plentiful. It's the 5th largest city in Kansas with a population of over 126,000, with a 'metro' population of over 230,000. I know that sounds small to some, but if there are not better jobs there, then there are not better jobs anywhere (which is probably pretty accurate )
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Post by Merge on Jul 31, 2021 13:01:55 GMT
It’s a smallish city in Kansas. Jobs are probably not very plentiful. It's the 5th largest city in Kansas with a population of over 126,000, with a 'metro' population of over 230,000. I know that sounds small to some, but if there are not better jobs there, then there are not better jobs anywhere (which is probably pretty accurate ) We moved from the largest city in Nebraska (about 350K at that time) to a big city 24 years ago because there were no jobs. In the current climate, it seems the only ones hiring are fast food and restaurants, which still don’t pay enough to support a family. Jobs that don’t require some kind of formal training, but still pay a living wage, are hard to come by everywhere.
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Post by iowgirl on Jul 31, 2021 22:01:29 GMT
In the current climate, it seems the only ones hiring are fast food and restaurants, which still don’t pay enough to support a family. Jobs that don’t require some kind of formal training, but still pay a living wage, are hard to come by everywhere. I think many don't understand how bad it is. They say people should just get a job, but how can a person support themselves and a family with fast food jobs, or jobs that are not full time with low wages. Something needs to change. The top exec's get richer and the workers are poor. The middle is shrinking. I am thankful we can earn a good living with farming/ranching, for the most part. Some years are good, some are not, and it is an everyday year round job. Our kids all have good paying jobs now too, but I feel so much for those working hard and just sliding backwards. I would want to just give up also.
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Post by hookturnian on Aug 1, 2021 4:23:30 GMT
The pandemic has shown that unions are more important than ever to combat the erosion of workers' rights, casualisation of employment, prevalence of insecure work, etc. People employed in sectors where this is common have borne the brunt of the pandemic fallout.
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