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Post by onelasttime on Aug 6, 2021 14:30:21 GMT
There is another thread about two more members of the Capital Police took their own lives.
The way I see it these officers encountered extreme violence in doing their job protecting members of Congress. Within hours after the event Republican Members of Congress started acting like it didn’t happen. It was no big deal. Just “tourist” walking through the Capital. dumpster don has been beating the drum the woman who was killed is some kind of martyr. Those that were arrested are “political prisoners “ with Republican members of Congress going to the DC jail to “check” on the conditions of these “political” prisoners.
Of course all this shit has had an affect on these men. Think about it for a second. You put yourself between these Republicans and a very angry mob and these idiots take this attitude that it was no big deal. It was a big deal, a very big deal.
Now in this article there is the claim these individuals in a “largely peaceful “ walk through the Capital were “egged on” by members of the Capital Police.
These men didn’t deserve any of this.
Right now I’m beginning to hate this country because we are allowing this shit to happen. We as a country should be ashamed of ourselves.
From Huffington Post…
“We're Going Back To The Capitol': Ex Trump Campaign Official Announces 'Huge' Protest”
“We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection," Matt Braynard told former White House strategist Steve Bannon.
The former data chief for Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign has announced a protest next month at the nation’s Capitol — to rail on behalf of so-called “political prisoners” charged in the Jan. 6 insurrection.
“We’re going back to the Capitol, right where it started. And it’s going to be huge,” Matt Braynard told former White House strategist Steve Bannon as he announced the rally on Bannon’s podcast last week.
The protest, “Justice for J6,” has been set for Sept. 18 at the Capitol. It’s being orchestrated by the group Look Ahead America, headed by Braynard.
“As we continue to raise the profiles of these individuals” who have been arrested, it “makes it harder and harder for the left’s phony narrative about an insurrection to stick,” Braynard told Bannon. “We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection.”
Despite multiple dramatic videos of scenes to the contrary, Braynard told Bannon the crowd that day was “largely peaceful” — and simply “egged on in many cases by the Capitol Police.
Braynard promised that “high-profile” speakers including members of Congress would attend the rally. He declined to reveal their identities to HuffPost until “confirmed.”
One person who met with Trump on Saturday at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, mentioned a “rally” by a “little bit of a special group” — though it wasn’t clear if the person was referring to the new “Justice for J6” protest.
Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) posted and then deleted a clip of that comment a day after former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows announced that Trump was meeting with “Cabinet members” — apparently as part of some imagined parallel presidency — to make “real” plans for the future. Trump is, of course, no longer president and has no real Cabinet.
Braynard told HuffPost he was unaware of that meeting or the video. He later clarified that the “rally” mentioned in the clip had nothing to do with his.
Braynard said he has already obtained permission for the rally from the Metropolitan Police Department, pending final checks the day of the protest.
An MPD spokesperson would not confirm to HuffPost that a permit had been approved. A Capitol Police spokesperson said the department is aware of the rally but cannot discuss a permit or security plans.
The rally is planned for the West Lawn of the Capitol, where protesters moved on the building after Trump told them to go there and “fight much harder.”
Braynard told HuffPost the rally is only in support of “nonviolent” Capitol protesters. That includes Ashli Babbit, who crawled through a broken window in a barricaded door to get to members of Congress. As a mob of rioters yelled “Let’s go” and “Fuck the blue,” a Capitol Police officer warned Babbit to stop before he fatally shot her. (The incident can be seen in a disturbing video here.)
Braynard claimed that Babbit had been “executed.” The officer who shot her has been cleared of any wrongdoing.
Braynard said the rally will focus on arrests linked to the Jan. 6 storming of the Capitol and will discourage protesters from holding signs about any election or candidates and will also discourage the use of “MAGA gear.” Asked if his group had been active on behalf of any peaceful “political prisoners” arrested at Black Lives Matter protests, he said: “I don’t know anything about that.”
Amid talk of coming protests and Trump’s “reinstatement,” security officials fear a repeat of the Capitol insurrection or even more serious domestic terrorism.
Trump disciple and My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell initially said that the former president would somehow be reinstated to the White House in mid-August. He revised that prediction in an interview with a far-right-wing radio program last week, claiming instead that Trump will present “proof” next month to the Supreme Court that the election was “stolen by the Chinese.” No credible evidence has yet emerged to support this.
Nevertheless, Lindell believes that after Trump makes his case, the court could decide to order an election do-over. Maybe “that’s a thing,” he added.
It’s not.”
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 6, 2021 15:20:05 GMT
This is complete bullshit on so many levels. First, we all saw the video streams. We saw what that mob did. Second, these clucks were stupid enough to post the rampage on their own social media accounts. Anyone casually perusing those accounts could clearly see who they supported-and it wasn’t Antifa or BLM. Third, Ashli Babbit is no martyr. I watched the video. She was attempting to crawl through a broken window into a room containing members of Congress. Anyone with a functional set of ears could hear the shouts of “Gun!” Fourth, Trump will provide proof pretty much like he did in all of those fruitless lawsuits that were dismissed-inadequately. Why? Because he has nothing. Fifth, Mike Lindell is a gibbering loon.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 6, 2021 15:25:53 GMT
Mark Meadows talking about meeting with former’s cabinet is infuriating. The Republicans are deliberately undermining the legitimacy of Biden’s presidency and setting a dangerous precedent. I’m really worried about the future of our country, I fear we are headed down a dark path. Now more than ever, the Democrats need to pass voting rights.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 6, 2021 16:01:04 GMT
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Post by karinec on Aug 6, 2021 16:16:53 GMT
How much of that talk does there have to be for these people to be arrested for treason? Would love to know.
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Post by nathonrose on Aug 11, 2021 19:55:49 GMT
This is complete bullshit on so many levels. First, we all saw the video streams. We saw what that mob did. Second, these clucks were stupid enough to post the rampage on their own social media accounts. Anyone casually perusing those accounts could clearly see who they supported-and it wasn’t Antifa or BLM. Third, Ashli Babbit is no martyr. I watched the video. She was attempting to crawl through a broken window into a room containing members of Congress. Anyone with a functional set of ears could hear the shouts of “Gun!” Fourth, Trump will provide proof pretty much like he did in all of those fruitless lawsuits that were dismissed-inadequately. Why? Because he has nothing. Fifth, Mike Lindell is a gibbering loon. Totally agree, this is weird...However, it's not totally unprecedented. From Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_cabinet_of_AustraliaIn Australian federal politics, the shadow cabinet is the opposition's equivalent to the federal cabinet. It comprises the most senior figures within the opposition, headed by the leader of the opposition as the counterpart to the prime minister of Australia. and: Members of a shadow cabinet have no executive power. It is the shadow cabinet's responsibility to scrutinise the policies and actions of the government, as well as to offer alternative policies. Kind of what These people are trying to do. If they just said that is what they were doing and basing it on a Westminster System of government, maybe it wouldn't be so badly looked upon. The "problem" with how Trump et. al. are doing these things is that they are trying to take over and are being violent. I'm not sure if the ones in power are like DEM's, and the Shadow is REP's in Australia. That'd be like get rid of all REP's from congress and only DEM's remain? So, I don't know all the details, but as said, it's not entirely unprecedented to have something like another cabinet...
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 11, 2021 20:57:00 GMT
I don't know a lot about Australian politics, but the situation in the US is unique. Crazy supporters of former like Mike Lindell are claiming former will be reinstated. Former himself gave a recent speech where he suggested people would be happy, implying that he might be reinstated. There are also crazy conspiracy theories that former is really in charge. Republicans are undermining the legitimacy of Biden's presidency at every possible opportunity. A large percentage of Republicans falsely believe that Biden didn't win in a free and fair election. For Mark Meadows to refer to aides as a Cabinet, that's a dangerous path.
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 11, 2021 21:15:27 GMT
I predict that this won’t be like the last time. If they try anything violent, I hope-and believe-that it will be put down quickly, efficiently and forcefully. And hopefully anyone violent will be held, tried and fined bigly.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 1, 2021 23:15:29 GMT
I guess they are still planning on having this little get together.,..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 1, 2021 23:30:27 GMT
I predict that this won’t be like the last time. If they try anything violent, I hope-and believe-that it will be put down quickly, efficiently and forcefully. And hopefully anyone violent will be held, tried and fined bigly. One shot will become a bloodbath.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 1, 2021 23:33:03 GMT
The fence may go back . Proud boys expected plus!! Federal officials are preparing for a Sept. 18th rally demanding "justice" for January 6th arrestees that is expected to be attended by the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. U.S. Capitol Police have been discussing reinstalling the perimeter fence erected after the insurrection, the Associated Press reported Wednesday, citing "three people familiar" with the situation. The decision on whether or not to erect the fence again will likely be considered by the Capitol Police Board, according to a House aide familiar with the matter and granted anonymity to discuss it. No decisions have been made," the AP reported. The three members of the Capitol Police Board are the Sergeant at Arms of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the U.S. Senate, and the Architect of the Capitol. www.rawstory.com/capitol-september-18-rally/
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 8, 2021 15:22:55 GMT
I guess it’s going to happen.
I wonder how many members of Congress will show up at this white nationalist event?
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Post by dewryce on Sept 8, 2021 15:36:59 GMT
That’s terrifying. I hope law enforcement and employees are able to stay safe. Actually, I think it’d probably be prudent to shut down as much as possible for safety reasons alone. At the same time, that gives them control.
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Post by epeanymous on Sept 8, 2021 16:35:04 GMT
These are not awesome times.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 8, 2021 22:06:15 GMT
You think?
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 9, 2021 0:01:24 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 14, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Let’s hope the number is this small. But if it is someone isn’t going to be happy.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 14, 2021 13:30:14 GMT
DC numbers are supposedly lower.... Unfortunately there is talk of problems at some state Capitols. Nothing confirmed as of yet though.
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Post by elaine on Sept 14, 2021 14:33:14 GMT
I will be fascinated to see if anything is done in the public eye to all the police officers - both on and off duty- who actually supported the insurrectionists. We’ve all seen the videos of some of them opening up barricades and chatting with the protesters - also, the infamous police officer shooting a selfie with an insurrectionist. In some ways what they did was worse, because it was THEIR JOBS to protect the Capitol Building and prevent what happened from happening, but instead they aided and abetted. And imagine what that has done to police force morale. Imagine if you had to work with someone who supported a group of people who slammed you in a doorway while you were doing your job. Or supported the group of people that beat you (or one of your coworkers) in the head with metal poles. If I was a police officer who did my job that day, I would be beyond infuriated and disgusted by my colleagues who supported that sh&t and would want there to be consequences. I hate that this is happening again here. That the fencing has had to be reinstalled. Dh and I were talking yesterday and both said that you couldn’t pay us to be anywhere near downtown this weekend.
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Post by casii on Sept 14, 2021 14:37:17 GMT
There does appear to be one Capitol police officer that did give Boebert, friends and family what seems to be an unauthorized tour Dec 12, 2020.https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-capitol-tour-2654434092/ I will be fascinated to see if anything is done in the public eye to all the police officers - both on and off duty- who actually supported the insurrectionists. We’ve all seen the videos of some of them opening up barricades and chatting with the protesters - also, the infamous police officer shooting a selfie with an insurrectionist. In some ways what they did was worse, because it was THEIR JOBS to protect the Capital Building and prevent what happened from happening, but instead they aided and abetted. And imagine what that has done to police force morale. Imagine if you had to work with someone who supported a group of people who slammed you in a doorway while you were doing your job. Or supported the group of people that beat you (or one of your coworkers) in the head with metal poles. If I was a police officer who did my job that day, I would be beyond infuriated and disgusted by my colleagues who supported that sh&t and would want there to be consequences. I hate that this is happening again here. That the fencing has had to be reinstalled. Dh and I were talking yesterday and both said that you couldn’t pay us to be anywhere near downtown this weekend. A few of them are being disciplined. Probably nowhere near the actual numbers who cooperated or allowed the insurrection to occur. Capitol Officers Disciplined
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Post by elaine on Sept 14, 2021 14:42:01 GMT
I will be fascinated to see if anything is done in the public eye to all the police officers - both on and off duty- who actually supported the insurrectionists. We’ve all seen the videos of some of them opening up barricades and chatting with the protesters - also, the infamous police officer shooting a selfie with an insurrectionist. In some ways what they did was worse, because it was THEIR JOBS to protect the Capital Building and prevent what happened from happening, but instead they aided and abetted. And imagine what that has done to police force morale. Imagine if you had to work with someone who supported a group of people who slammed you in a doorway while you were doing your job. Or supported the group of people that beat you (or one of your coworkers) in the head with metal poles. If I was a police officer who did my job that day, I would be beyond infuriated and disgusted by my colleagues who supported that sh&t and would want there to be consequences. I hate that this is happening again here. That the fencing has had to be reinstalled. Dh and I were talking yesterday and both said that you couldn’t pay us to be anywhere near downtown this weekend. A few of them are being disciplined. Probably nowhere near the actual numbers who cooperated or allowed the insurrection to occur. Capitol Officers DisciplinedAnd it doesn’t sound like any of them will be legally punished in any way: ☹️
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 14, 2021 15:43:32 GMT
Calls for 'civil war' are causing GOP to rethink attending the rally Sept 18th.. So they are probably not going.... Not supporting their followers that they encouraged to participate in "the big lie" and the insurrection, including this rally... Not the I agree with the cause, but they are COWARDS, for leaving them out to dry and the hoards will not call them out for it!! Saturday's rally in support of Jan. 6 Capitol rioters has put GOP lawmakers in an "awkward" position — because a significant portion of the party's base believes the insurrection was "justified" and is calling for "civil war," according to a new report from Politico. Facing this "uncomfortable reality," GOP lawmakers have done their best to change the subject or ignore questions about the "Justice for J6" rally organized by a former Trump campaign aide — which law-enforcement officials fear could become violent. Even Republicans who've called Capitol rioters "political prisoners" — such as Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida, Paul Gosar of Arizona, and Louie Gohmert of Texas — have not said whether they plan to attend the Justice for J6 rally. However, one GOP lawmaker who spoke on the condition of anonymity acknowledged that the rally has created a "conundrum" for the party's leaders in Congress. "The majority of the Republican base feels that Jan. 6 was justified. And because those people didn't have arms, they shouldn't be incarcerated right now," said the lawmaker, who reportedly is from a safe red district. "Every day, I hear the word 'Civil War' — every day," the lawmaker told Politico, adding when he returned to his district after Jan. 6, he "expected sympathy and disgust about the attack on Congress and instead heard constituents commenting in support."www.rawstory.com/justice-for-j6-2655019414/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 15, 2021 20:58:16 GMT
Wardrobe changes are in order for Saturday!! Matt Braynard, the former Donald Trump campaign aide who's organizing Saturday's "Justice for J6" rally in support of Capitol insurrectionists, announced Tuesday that attendees should not wear clothing or carry signs showing their support for former president Donald Trump. "We request that anybody attending our events not wear any clothing or have signs supportive of either President Trump or Biden," Braynard wrote on Twitter. "Anyone not honoring this request will be assumed to be an infiltrator and we will take your picture, find out who you are, and make you famous. ... This event is 100% about #JusticeforJ6 and not the election or any candidate."www.rawstory.com/trump-gear-banned/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 15, 2021 21:15:01 GMT
Capitol PD has asked the Pentagon for National Guard as needed. There are fears the rally will be attended by members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. Members of both groups have been charged with conspiracy for January 6. www.rawstory.com/september-18-rally-national-guard/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 16, 2021 4:20:50 GMT
Sooo... He abandons his hoards.... And they don't get it.... Donald Trump is worried about a Saturday rally in support of those arrested during the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol by his supporters seeking to overturn the election. "Mr. Trump, aides said, has little interest in engaging with the protest and has no plans to be anywhere near Washington on Saturday," The New York Times reported Wednesday. "Instead, his schedule includes a golf tournament at his Bedminster, N.J., club before he heads back down to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, according to people familiar with his schedule." "Mr. Trump views the planned protest as a setup that the news media will use against him regardless of the outcome," the newspaper reported, citing "people familiar with his thinking." The rally, being organized for former Trump campaign operative Matt Braynard, will backfire on Republicans, according to GOP strategist John Feehery. www.rawstory.com/trump-september-18-rally/
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 17, 2021 17:26:17 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 17, 2021 17:27:44 GMT
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Post by scrappinspidey2 on Sept 17, 2021 17:56:54 GMT
I have a friend who is a big former president supporter. She believes the election was stolen, she believes pretty much anything that comes out of that Camp, to the point that she also believes that the January 6th incident, were anti trump supporters dressed up like trump supporters to give them all a bad name etc etc. I have her hidden from my facebook but I do check in because I like to know what is going on in that world.
She posted today that there is a rally in DC and that "True Patriots" will not be there. Anyone wearing anything supporting the Trump administration are obvious antifa members causing trouble. She also announced that there will be big pieces of information released in the next 7 days (doesn't state what they are) and that there will be distraction by the news medial and the current government officials so she warns everyone to be on the look out for these distractions and to not let themselves be distracted by them. She predicts a catastrophic event happening as a way for the powers that be to distract from these pieces of information.
That said, she didn't write the post. She copied it from another group. I know how she "speaks" online and this is not her but it is what she believes. I don't even know where to go with any of it honestly. Anyone who can't admit that the January 6th thing was done by Trump Supporters has lost any sort of perspective. I don't argue, I just monitor so I know what is going on. I just can't with this group anymore. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone who opposes Trump would willingly get into gear supporting him lol I mean I guess if you really want to push an agenda, but most would rather burn the stuff than wear it. Makes no logical sense to me. Heaven forbid we admit there are crazies amongst our own parties.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 17, 2021 18:22:44 GMT
Just a bit of an update from Arizona.. commentary.. I did create a thread but I'll drop a bit here. Hopefully it is all true... But MAGA ballin will lose some air... The team of Arizona Republican state senators, legislative staff, and advisers finalizing the Cyber Ninjas' report on the 2020 presidential election in Maricopa County are preparing to say that Joe Biden legitimately won the election, according to the largest funder of the Senate's mostly privatized election review, former Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/124447/true-big-news-out-arizona
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 17, 2021 18:34:09 GMT
I have a friend who is a big former president supporter. She believes the election was stolen, she believes pretty much anything that comes out of that Camp, to the point that she also believes that the January 6th incident, were anti trump supporters dressed up like trump supporters to give them all a bad name etc etc. I have her hidden from my facebook but I do check in because I like to know what is going on in that world. She posted today that there is a rally in DC and that "True Patriots" will not be there. Anyone wearing anything supporting the Trump administration are obvious antifa members causing trouble. She also announced that there will be big pieces of information released in the next 7 days (doesn't state what they are) and that there will be distraction by the news medial and the current government officials so she warns everyone to be on the look out for these distractions and to not let themselves be distracted by them. She predicts a catastrophic event happening as a way for the powers that be to distract from these pieces of information. That said, she didn't write the post. She copied it from another group. I know how she "speaks" online and this is not her but it is what she believes. I don't even know where to go with any of it honestly. Anyone who can't admit that the January 6th thing was done by Trump Supporters has lost any sort of perspective. I don't argue, I just monitor so I know what is going on. I just can't with this group anymore. I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone who opposes Trump would willingly get into gear supporting him lol I mean I guess if you really want to push an agenda, but most would rather burn the stuff than wear it. Makes no logical sense to me. Heaven forbid we admit there are crazies amongst our own parties. It might have something to do with trump saying he wants nothing to do with this rally on Saturday because it will make him look bad. Which I think is pretty funny because he has absolutely no trouble making himself look bad. Anyway, it could be this big rally will be a big bust. Which is not a bad thing. Or groups like the Proud Boys will show up and make a mess and blame it on antifa. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens tomorrow.
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