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Post by aj2hall on Sept 3, 2021 2:30:33 GMT
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tracylynn
Pearl Clutcher
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Post by tracylynn on Sept 3, 2021 3:14:12 GMT
I'm over this asshole.
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Post by Merge on Sept 3, 2021 3:25:02 GMT
The DNC needs to defund and primary him.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2021 3:47:46 GMT
The DNC needs to defund and primary him. Unfortunately WV is red state. The Democrats must get tough!
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Post by nlwilkins on Sept 3, 2021 3:49:05 GMT
I really have an issue with the DNC continually finding reasons to sit on their thumbs and doing nothing. They are just so polite and worrying about hurting people's feelings
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 4:16:16 GMT
If Joe turns on Dems and changes to (R) we lose the committees. He knows he has dems over a barrel and he loves it.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2021 4:26:07 GMT
I get the feeling if the DNC defunds Manchin he won’t care. Manchin doesn’t like the bigger infrastructure bill because it moves the country away from fossil fuel. His talk about inflation is just a cover for the real reason he doesn’t want it to pass. From the Texas Tribune. link“Sen. Joe Manchin, key Democratic holdout on federal voting protections, coming to Texas for fundraiser hosted by several GOP donors”The fundraiser comes just a day after Manchin met with Texas House Democrats on Capitol Hill who are desperate for his support of the congressional efforts which could preempt the statewide GOP’s push to pass bills that would restrict voting access for Texans. BY ABBY LIVINGSTON AND CARLA ASTUDILLO JULY 16, 2021 UPDATED: 3 WASHINGTON - West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin — a key Democratic holdout over efforts to pass federal voting rights legislation — is expected to head to Texas on Friday for a fundraiser with a host committee that includes several wealthy Republican donors. The fundraiser comes just a day after Manchin met with Texas House Democrats on Capitol Hill who are desperate for his support of the congressional efforts which could preempt the statewide GOP’s push to pass bills that would restrict voting access for Texans. Manchin is also one of two Democratic senators, along with Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, who have proven to be obstacles to moving voting rights legislation through the U.S. Senate. At the center of the impasse is their opposition to eliminating or changing the filibuster, which requires 60 senators to put a bill on the floor. “We invite you to join us for a special evening supporting our friend, U.S. Senator Joe Manchin,” according to the invitation’s cover letter, which went on to call Manchin “a longtime friend since his days as Governor of West Virginia.” The host committee includes titans of the Texas oil and gas industry — many of whom donate almost exclusively to Republicans. But there is a prominent Democrat included among the hosts: former Houston Mayor Bill White. White was the 2010 Democratic nominee for governor, and declined to comment on this story. All of the other hosts could not immediately be reached for comment. Manchin is the chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, the most powerful perch on Capitol Hill when it comes to oil and gas policy. He will be up for reelection in 2024.
Among the hosts are oil billionaires like Jeff Hildebrand, who cofounded the energy company Hilcorp, and Richard Kinder, a cofounder of Kinder Morgan, an energy infrastructure company. Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry appointed Hildebrand to the University of Texas Board of Regents for a six-year term beginning in 2013.”
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2021 4:55:07 GMT
From CNN. link“Joe Manchin says he's 'very, very' disturbed about reconciliation proposals on climate change” CNN)Sen. Joe Manchin, the Democrats' most pivotal swing vote, expressed his most serious concerns yet about a key element in their party's $3.5 trillion sweeping economic plan: Provisions dealing with climate change that have been sought by progressives. Manchin, who hails from coal-producing West Virginia, told CNN that he's "very, very disturbed" by provisions he believes would eliminate fossil fuels -- a warning sign for Democrats who need all 50 members of their caucus to sign off on the plan in order to get it through the Senate. But the climate provisions are key to getting support from liberals, particularly in the House. And how Democratic leaders keep both factions of their caucus will be key to determining if they can approve much of President Joe Biden's domestic agenda by the fall. " I know they have the climate portion in here, and I'm concerned about that," Manchin said moments after Biden met with Senate Democrats in the Capitol on Wednesday. Because if they're eliminating fossils, and I'm finding out there's a lot of language in places they're eliminating fossils, which is very, very disturbing, because if you're sticking your head in the sand, and saying that fossil (fuel) has to be eliminated in America, and they want to get rid of it, and thinking that's going to clean up the global climate, it won't clean it up all. If anything, it would be worse."
Democrats still need to draft their bill to expand the social safety net, which would go through the budget reconciliation process by September and cannot be filibustered, meaning it can advance with just 51 votes rather than 60.” Back when I commuted between SF and Sonoma County sometimes when the wind wasn’t blowing and the fog hadn’t come in and when crossing the Golden Gate Bridge if you looked toward SF you would see this whiskey colored layer sitting on the water. It was all byproducts from that fossil fuel he’s so fond of. And that stuff wasn’t just on the bay it was spread through the entire area. You could just see it when it was sitting on the bay. And people had been breathing that crap all day. Think about kids breathing that crap all day and people with lung disease. One doesn’t need to be a doctor to understand that can’t be good.
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 3, 2021 12:58:47 GMT
He should pull his head out of his ass and look around the country this morning. That bill is needed.
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Post by onelasttime on Sept 3, 2021 23:57:08 GMT
From The Intercept…
“IN THE EARLY hours of August 11, the Senate voted to approve a $3.5 trillion budget resolution that would mark the nation’s most significant investment in the fight against climate change ever undertaken in the United States. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., cast the tie-breaking vote.
The resolution’s approval kicked off a legislative process likely to last months, all of it hinging on Manchin’s continued support. Not long after casting his vote, he issued a public statement warning the bill’s backers not to take him for granted.
“Adding trillions of dollars more to nearly $29 trillion of national debt, without any consideration of the negative effects on our children and grandchildren, is one of those decisions that has become far too easy in Washington,” Manchin said. The month prior, he had specified that some of the climate-related provisions were “very, very disturbing.”
“If you’re sticking your head in the sand, and saying that fossil [fuel] has to be eliminated in America, and they want to get rid of it, and thinking that’s going to clean up the global climate, it won’t clean it up all,” Manchin told CNN after a private meeting with President Joe Biden and his fellow Senate Democrats. “If anything, it would be worse.”
Manchin’s claim that climate pollution would be worsened by the elimination of fossil fuels — or by the resolution’s actual, more incremental climate provisions — is highly dubious, if not outright false. What would unquestionably be impacted, however, is Manchin’s own personal wealth.
Though Manchin’s motivations are often ascribed to the conservative, coal-friendly politics of West Virginia, it is also the case that the state’s senior senator is heavily invested in the industry — and owes much of his considerable fortune to it.
For decades, Manchin has profited from a series of coal companies that he founded during the 1980s. His son, Joe Manchin IV, has since assumed leadership roles in the firms, and the senator says his ownership is held in a blind trust. Yet between the time he joined the Senate and today, Manchin has personally grossed more than $4.5 million from those firms, according to financial disclosures. He also holds stock options in Enersystems Inc., the larger of the two firms, valued between $1 and $5 million.
Those two companies are Enersystems Inc. and Farmington Resources Inc., the latter of which was created by the rapid merging of two other firms, Manchin’s Transcon and Farmington Energy in 2005. Enersystems purchases low-quality waste coal from mines and resells it to power plants as fuel, while Farmington Resources provides “support activities for mining” and holds coal reserves in the Fairmont area. Over the decades, whether feeding tens of thousands of tons of dirty waste coal into the power plants in northern West Virginia or subjecting workers to unsafe conditions, Manchin’s family coal business has almost entirely avoided public scrutiny.
Manchin did not respond to multiple requests for comment.”
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