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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 14, 2021 15:21:01 GMT
When I was younger my BP was on the low side, but for the last few years I have had times where I felt like my BP was high. I initially went to the pharmacy and had it checked and sometimes it was high, sometimes not. But when I went to the doctor it was fine and they didn't seem concerned. A few years ago I had a situation where I thought I was having a stroke. My face was tingling/numb and it went down my arm. I went to the ER and they said it could have been a TIA but most likely anxiety. I have also had heart palpitations/PVC's over the years that again, the doctor didn't seem concerned about. Cardiologist prescribed a BP med to take as needed if I was having a lot of PVC's. I bought a BP monitor for home, but wasn't sure how accurate it was because of some different readings among family members.
Last week I had another episode where I was tingly and thought I might pass out. I checked my BP with my monitor as well as my mom's and BP was high (about 145/95) on both. I have checked it occasionally since then and all but one time it was high (in the yellow or orange areas on the monitor).
I am curious if anyone has had success in lowering blood pressure without meds? If you do take meds for it, what are the side effects? And how long did your doctor wait to prescribe meds?
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Post by craftedbys on Dec 14, 2021 16:11:10 GMT
I have been on a medium strength bp med for over three years now.
There is a reason that high blood pressure is called the silent killer.
A few years ago I wasn't feeling very well, washed out, tired etc. So I went to a walk in clinic and when they took my blood pressure it was dangerously high, as in we need to call an ambulance. Since the hospital was just down the street they gave me the choice to have DH come take me.
I ended getting iv meds to lower it enough to be discharged with an Rx of meds to hold me over until I could be seen by a cardiologist who put me on meds and made me stay on bed rest and then house arrest until we could get my numbers under control.
This is not something to chance
Who prescribed the as needed meds? Your gp or a cardiologist?
If you have not seen a cardiologist that may be your best choice so that you can find out what is causing the episodes.
I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv (or this board) but it seems like waiting until you feel bad or feel an episode coming on to take meds would not be the best way to handle things.
Please get a second opinion and please take care of yourself. The holidays can be so stressful and stress is never good for your blood pressure.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 14, 2021 16:13:29 GMT
I take a low dose of lisinopril, which is part of the standard of care for a diabetic. I don’t have high BP and don’t feel any different taking it. If you have an increased risk of stroke (as does a diabetic), it seems like you should be on a BP med.
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Post by craftedbys on Dec 14, 2021 16:21:21 GMT
Forgot to add, invest in a really good BP cuff/monitor with digital readout.
Take your blood pressure a couple of times per day and vary those times. Keep a record of them (I just used a spiral notebook and wrote date and time and also made a note if things were unusually stressful).
Then take it with you to show the doctor. Most doctors will have you do this anyway, so doing this will make you one step ahead.
It helps show any patterns etc and will give the doctor a better starting point if they are going to prescribe a daily dose.
It may take several weeks to a few months to get your numbers to where they should be and keep them there, so just hang in there and know that you will eventually start to feel better.
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Post by flanz on Dec 14, 2021 16:29:01 GMT
Kristin, I am also on team get thee to a cardiologist. Nothing to mess with! Fingers crossed for an easy to live with outcome.
If you don't make your health a priority, who will? xo
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Post by scrapmaven on Dec 14, 2021 16:36:02 GMT
You need to see a cardiologist. There are supplements that you can take that will help lower cholesterol, bp, but they're often an adjunct to western meds. I've never heard of bp meds that you only take for PVC's. Granted, I'm not a doctor, but that sounds strange. Get a full workup and let an experienced cardiologist plot your course. You can let him/her know that you don't want to take meds and ask if there are supplements that you can take, first. You probably need a full workup.
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Post by scrapngranny on Dec 14, 2021 16:37:16 GMT
It’s not unusual to get different BP readings through out the day, even at the same time if done repeatedly. Yours sounds like anxiety or panic attack induced fluctuations. I’m not a doctor, but I’d say take your BP 3 times a day for a couple of weeks and keep a record of readings and what activities you were doing prior to readings, along with anxiety levels. Then you have something concrete to show your doctor.
Lowering salt intake, exercise and stress reduction techniques are a way to lower BP.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Dec 14, 2021 16:39:33 GMT
I’m on Metoprolol for HBP and it helps with anxiety (don’t know how, but I haven’t had anxiety since I’ve been on it). If you feel your BP is high, check it several times a day, keep track, and then make an appointment with your doctor to discuss the numbers.
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Post by littlemama on Dec 14, 2021 16:42:54 GMT
Heart healthbisnt something Id mess around with. Not sure why you are so resistant to being treated
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Post by kelly8875 on Dec 14, 2021 17:07:49 GMT
I've been on BP meds for 4-5 years now. I was running in the normal range, but at the high end of that for a couple of years. My dad and brother have BP issues, so my GP and I agreed to put me on BP meds. No side effects, they just do what they're supposed to do, which is keep my levels in a healthy range.
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Post by cakediva on Dec 14, 2021 17:11:15 GMT
My doctor and I fussed with it for almost a year before she gave me medication for it. Is there a reason you are opposed to it? I take one small pill each morning, and my blood pressure has been fine ever since. Oddly enough - given the huge heart issues my dad had (two heart attacks, quadruple bypass, died of heart failure) he didn't have high blood pressure. I get that from my Mom's side of the family. Nothing wrong with taking the meds
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Post by amp on Dec 14, 2021 17:15:41 GMT
I have had great experience with this. When I was younger (I'll be 58 in March) I always had low BP, so I never worried about it. I was thin, ate like a horse, and ate whatever I wanted. About 10 years ago, I started having continually high blood pressure, and my doctor gave me some literature from the American Heart Association, and told me to cut down on my sodium. I <3 sodium. I would get french fries from McDonalds, and add salt packets to the catsup I dipped them in. I would eat dill pickles by the jar because they are low calorie and I loved them. She REALLY wanted to put me on blood pressure medication. I didn't think I could get off my sodium habit, but the AHA said it was easier than you would think...that all you have to do is track your sodium input. I doubted that, but gave it a go. My mother told me that it for sure wouldn't help, because our family just has high BP. Holy cow. The AHA was right! Most days I keep my sodium under 2500 mg. For YEARS now...including about 3 weeks ago, when I go to checkups, I have low blood pressure again. At my last visit, after running in from the parking lot, my BP was 109/70, which the doctor said was fantastic. A nice side effect is that my migraines have disappeared. I am vegan, and while that is good for heart health, I don't think that affects my BP. I have a Fitbit and on most days, get in at least 250 steps an hour for 12 hours. That probably helps some, but the sodium thing is what really helped IMHO. And to be honest, I don't miss the sodium at all (except maybe eating half a jar of dill pickles in one sitting, but they are SOOO high in sodium). So, no BP meds, I am about 20 lbs overweight by the doctor's standards, 40 lbs more than I was when younger, and I have low blood pressure. I hope this helps you!! Edited to add: while this worked for me, I agree with the above posters, heart health is nothing to mess with. I would visit with a cardiologist ASAP...maybe while lowering your sodium intake.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 14, 2021 17:36:20 GMT
I saw a cardiologist when pregnant with my youngest (he is 10 now) due to frequent PVC's that started at that time. They said it was due to increased blood flow during pregnancy. I also saw him when I was having frequent PVC's several years ago, and again two+ years ago when I thought I may have had a stroke.
In general, I think it is good to avoid meds if you can, because they all have potential side effects and I also think that lifestyle changes are important if need be. I am also hesitant to go have all kinds of tests again, spend tons of money, and have them say it is stress or nothing to worry about. So, if there are things I can do for a month or so to see if it helps, I would do that first.
That being said, my dad had a stroke when he was 50 so I have been more aware of that as I get older. He was very overweight, a smoker, and did not eat healthy at all, though.
I did send an email to my doctor so will see what she says.
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Post by peabay on Dec 14, 2021 17:42:04 GMT
I saw a cardiologist when pregnant with my youngest (he is 10 now) due to frequent PVC's that started at that time. They said it was due to increased blood flow during pregnancy. I also saw him when I was having frequent PVC's several years ago, and again two+ years ago when I thought I may have had a stroke. In general, I think it is good to avoid meds if you can, because they all have potential side effects and I also think that lifestyle changes are important if need be. I am also hesitant to go have all kinds of tests again, spend tons of money, and have them say it is stress or nothing to worry about. So, if there are things I can do for a month or so to see if it helps, I would do that first. That being said, my dad had a stroke when he was 50 so I have been more aware of that as I get older. He was very overweight, a smoker, and did not eat healthy at all, though. I did send an email to my doctor so will see what she says. I am generally the same way - but BP meds aren't hard core. Weight loss will work for some of it but might take too long to make the difference you need. I take low doses of irbesartan and hydrochlorothiazide and they've done a great job with zero (literally zero) side effects. In your shoes? I'd start taking them and work on the lifestyle changes - you could get to the point where you don't have to stay on them.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 14, 2021 18:56:26 GMT
I saw a cardiologist when pregnant with my youngest (he is 10 now) due to frequent PVC's that started at that time. They said it was due to increased blood flow during pregnancy. I also saw him when I was having frequent PVC's several years ago, and again two+ years ago when I thought I may have had a stroke. In general, I think it is good to avoid meds if you can, because they all have potential side effects and I also think that lifestyle changes are important if need be. I am also hesitant to go have all kinds of tests again, spend tons of money, and have them say it is stress or nothing to worry about. So, if there are things I can do for a month or so to see if it helps, I would do that first. That being said, my dad had a stroke when he was 50 so I have been more aware of that as I get older. He was very overweight, a smoker, and did not eat healthy at all, though. I did send an email to my doctor so will see what she says. Right there is all that you need to know. Your family history puts you at risk A cardiologist recommended that you take the medication. Rely on their years of schooling and experience and take their advice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 20:25:52 GMT
My BP began to rise in my 40's (when I was in the BEST of health, great weight, working out, eating healthy food, etc...). I blamed it on my mom's side. I tried everything I could for 3 months to lower it naturally; no go. I went on a low-dose BP Rx and remained on it for 15 years!! Being that I was in my 40's (supposedly a stroke worry) + having it in my family made me go on it and remain on it.
I was tested every 3 months and it remained too high to come off of the meds. I continued to limit or cut out sodium. For some strange reason, my levels flipped completely in the past year and I was able to come off of the BP Rx. Now I have to watch that it doesn't get too low. Who knows? Could be genetics or it could be due to my thyroid issues.
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Post by peasapie on Dec 15, 2021 20:55:19 GMT
If you drink caffeine coffee, lower and then cut it out altogether. My BO started going up after 55, and this was a great help.
Make sure you aren’t overdoing salt or sodium. Retaining water can raise BP.
If you are married, send your husband on a long vacation. (Okay that one might just be my mood today…)
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Post by Laurie on Dec 15, 2021 21:21:30 GMT
I saw a cardiologist when pregnant with my youngest (he is 10 now) due to frequent PVC's that started at that time. They said it was due to increased blood flow during pregnancy. I also saw him when I was having frequent PVC's several years ago, and again two+ years ago when I thought I may have had a stroke. In general, I think it is good to avoid meds if you can, because they all have potential side effects and I also think that lifestyle changes are important if need be. I am also hesitant to go have all kinds of tests again, spend tons of money, and have them say it is stress or nothing to worry about. So, if there are things I can do for a month or so to see if it helps, I would do that first. That being said, my dad had a stroke when he was 50 so I have been more aware of that as I get older. He was very overweight, a smoker, and did not eat healthy at all, though. I did send an email to my doctor so will see what she says. I feel the same way about meds. My early 30s I had high bp so my gp sent me to a cardiologist and I was put on meds. I didn't like the idea of being early 30s already on bp meds and seeing a cardiologist. I didn't have a long wait time. Think it all happened within 1-2 weeks. At this time I was also going back to school for my degree and working full time. Once I finished my degree it lowered some and then when I changed jobs it lowered again to the point that I no longer needed to take meds. For me it is/was stress (need to lose weight though too) induced. I can feel when it is creeping up again and I have to constantly remind myself to breathe and whatever I am stressing about is not important enough to potentially lose my life over from stroking out. Like I said I understand wanting to avoid the meds. I think if I were you I would start down that avenue with the goal of lowering it so you don't need it. I wouldn't want to risk doing damage to my heart in the meantime, kwim?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 1:05:58 GMT
For me , the things that cause high spikes are stress. I am on a combination of medication , Lisinopril and something called Moxonidine which is for hard to treat blood pressure, a lot of other treatments have not worked well for me. My high spikes are 250/150 but mostly regular days without spikes are around 160 / 108 . It is not an ideal situation and the spikes are a concern.
The numbers I was told about for hospitalisation is anything over 220 systolic but I have a feeling 180/120 is also considered a hypertensive emergency.
If you feel tingly , dizzy etc and have other symptoms always get checked out . It is better to be safe than sorry.
Next time you go to the doctors it might be worth taking your blood pressure monitor with you and compare the reading with the one at the Doctor’s office. That way you have a better idea of how accurate the one you have is.
The other suggestions for doing home monitoring , noting the time of day etc are all good ideas along with watching salt content.
There are some monitors that connect to the computer and make a graph.
There are all sorts of things that can affect blood pressure , sleep, salt, hormones, meals, exercise.
There are also other health conditions that can cause high blood pressure , these can be ruled out with blood and urine tests and in some cases scans.
I have tried to find supplements to see if they could lower it in addition to the prescribed meds but nothing has helped.
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Post by elaine on Dec 16, 2021 1:42:39 GMT
I’ve been in BP meds since the month I turned 30, so for over 28 years now. My hypertension is idiopathic- no underlying cause other than genetics, so there is no way to control it other than meds.
No side effects from the meds - which have changed over the years as I needed one that was safe during pregnancy when I was planning to and having kids. I’m now on 10 mg of Lisinopril- it is a relatively low dose.
Taking medication is MUCH preferable to having a stroke, or other dire consequences of long-term high BP, IMO.
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Post by threegirls on Dec 16, 2021 1:50:55 GMT
I was diagnosed with high blood pressure and was first put on a water pill and then lisinopril. My doctor recommended losing a little weight, cutting salt, exercise and yoga. I did all that he suggested, and it brought my numbers way down. He lowered the dosage of my meds and then took me off the meds completely. At first he saw me every 3 months then every 6 months.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 16, 2021 2:31:46 GMT
Thanks everyone. It sounds like the meds aren’t likely to cause problems so that makes me feel better. I also agree that it is better to go on meds if needed but still work on losing weight, reducing stress, etc.
When I was at the dentist this morning my BP was pretty good. I probably wouldn’t be as concerned about it if it was just my monitor that was reading high, but my mom gave me hers to compare with as well and they are both pretty similar.
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Post by seaexplore on Dec 16, 2021 3:01:34 GMT
I’m 47 and went to the doctor on Nov 15 of this year with a pounding heart and high (for me- normally 106/68 or so) blood pressure of 139/106 and just not feeling good. At the doctors office my pulse was 122 and my bp was 137/98. The doctor did an in office EKG to determine if I needed to go to the ER or not! Scared me bad! Thankfully the EKG came back “normal” and we addressed the pounding heart and fast pulse. She ran all kinds of labs too. Turns out it’s hormonal and lack of sleep related. I hadn’t had a full nights sleep for over a month due to night sweats and hot flashes during the day. Hormone levels showed that my FSH was 117, post menopausal is >25. Apparently I’m in menopause (last period was 7/31/21). Anyway, I was prescribed .1mg of Clonidine nightly for the racing/bounding heart, blood pressure, and hot flashes. I’ve been getting full nights of sleep, no hot flashes since Nov. 17 , blood pressure is back to where it normally is and even a tad bit lower and anxiety is pretty much gone. It’s magical! No issues with it at all.
I’m also one who hates taking meds unless I have to. I’m very thankful that there are meds that I can take to help me feel better.
Please go to the doctor and get checked out!
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Post by librarylady on Dec 16, 2021 15:02:42 GMT
Pomegranate juice will also lower bp.
8 Oz per day of pure juice, not a mix.
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