paigepea
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Post by paigepea on Dec 16, 2021 14:15:16 GMT
Any Canadian peas with vacations planned for the next four weeks? What are you going to do?
Our Canadian gov’t has advised against international travel for the next four weeks. They say this new variant is too unpredictable and they can’t guarantee our safety, our ability to return to Canada, and our ability to stay safe / avoid lockdowns at our destinations if we travel.
We are supposed to go see my sister in Cali at the end of the month. Now our travel insurance / medical insurance is void. We’d have to purchase insurance. And then there are the optics of travelling against gov’t advice. And of course the covid variant which is apparently doubling every 2 days.
What is everyone else deciding to do.
I’m so upset by this news that came out yesterday. I’m sure many families were planning on travelling as soon as school was out on Friday. My kids are soooo disappointed, yet again disappointed during covid. (I know this isn’t the end of the world but I felt like we had turned a corner in the world, covid wise).
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Post by theshyone on Dec 16, 2021 14:25:37 GMT
I personally wouldn’t be traveling against government advice, because you would be on your own if something happened. I have health issues though so the whole thing with omicron is concerning.
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Post by chances on Dec 16, 2021 15:05:59 GMT
I’m so sorry you’re plans are likely cancelled. I’m struck by the statement that you may not be allowed to return to Canada. The concern seems to have increased really quickly.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Dec 16, 2021 15:41:13 GMT
I think that is a bit of an overreaction. Very few, if any places will impose lockdowns again (I think Australia is the only place that is still actively doing it). If you travel to a location that has a low vaccination rate then that is on the traveler. Coming from the US to Canada shouldn't be an issue. Canada should not be barring their own citizens from going home. Take the damn test at the airport and call it good (not directed at OP but the Canadian government).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 16:05:25 GMT
My neighbours daughter and her husband is flying from Canada this evening. They land in the UK tomorrow ( Friday ) morning. They haven't been home for over two years. Her parents are getting on in age and her Dad is not in very good health so they have been extra careful and their daughter is very sensible so she knows the risks. I know she'll do the test necessary when she arrives here and before she boards that plane back to Canada in 10 days time. She can work from home if need be on her return if there is any quarantine in place by then. My neighbour would be devastated if it was cancelled again this year. She was due to visit last Christmas but it was not to be.
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paigepea
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Post by paigepea on Dec 16, 2021 16:08:36 GMT
I think that is a bit of an overreaction. Very few, if any places will impose lockdowns again (I think Australia is the only place that is still actively doing it). If you travel to a location that has a low vaccination rate then that is on the traveler. Coming from the US to Canada shouldn't be an issue. Canada should not be barring their own citizens from going home. Take the damn test at the airport and call it good (not directed at OP but the Canadian government). I get this. I thought this was what we were all going to do. I can’t believe the US wasn’t exempt from this advisory. The US vaccine rate is lower than ours but we share a border. our back up was always going to be fly from California to Washington and drive across the border.
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Post by paigepea on Dec 16, 2021 16:12:15 GMT
I’m so sorry you’re plans are likely cancelled. I’m struck by the statement that you may not be allowed to return to Canada. The concern seems to have increased really quickly. Yes. This is in case the gov’t stops accepting flights from certain countries. If there is no advisory in place they’ll do anything to get you home. If there is an advisory they won’t take rescue measures. But we can drive across the us border in a pinch if needed. the idea is the variant doubles every 2 days. 2 days ago we weren’t thinking of not going. but I wish they had left the US off their advisory.
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Post by christine58 on Dec 16, 2021 16:23:27 GMT
paigepea Canada CANNOT stop you from going home. Just go.
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Post by valincal on Dec 16, 2021 16:26:48 GMT
We are going to the States on Boxing Day. No plans to cancel.
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Post by Basket1lady on Dec 16, 2021 16:37:21 GMT
I don’t want to say that this is an overreaction, but I think the reality is that Covid is here to stay. We need to figure out a way to live with this out there in the world.
I would test before traveling, test when getting there, and test every 2-3 days while there. That’s what we do here. But I’d definitely get health insurance. That’s the big issue, to me.
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Post by melanell on Dec 16, 2021 16:49:41 GMT
I'm sorry about your plans. (((hugs)))
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Post by melanieg on Dec 16, 2021 17:19:44 GMT
Thank you Covid and Govt of Canada. You continue to make my life and job hell.
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Post by tallgirl on Dec 16, 2021 17:34:27 GMT
We are scheduled to leave on Saturday for Florida, and after an incredibly stressful week of changing our position on it at least a dozen times, we're going to go. Our reasons are as follows:
We think we will actually be safer in an environment where we'll spend most of our time outdoors, not cooped up indoors with poor ventilation; Our health insurance is still valid (confirmed after 2 calls to the insurers); We are driving across the border and flying from Cleveland - and we have a rental car booked as backup to drive back to Cleveland in case any of us test positive, so we won't be stranded; We are working from home and our kids won't have to return to school for 11 days after we get home - i.e. we will be set up well to quarantine if we need to; Our trip is happening soon enough that while case numbers are rising, they are not yet totally out of control. If we weren't due to leave for another couple of weeks, I wouldn't be as comfortable.
We've had a hell of a year from a mental health perspective. We need this. We'll take every precaution along the way, but we don't intend to cancel the trip.
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Post by belgravia on Dec 16, 2021 17:37:12 GMT
We are booked to go to California in February, and my husband has a work trip to Nashville at the end of January. My dad is planning to fly from California to Nashville to meet up with him and spend a weekend. Fingers crossed that goes ahead…my dad has always wanted to visit Nashville.
I’m so tired of this. Of course, I get it. We are vaccinated and boosted and I just want my life back!
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Post by finaledition on Dec 16, 2021 18:06:33 GMT
Going to Hawaii at the end of the month. We went last year at this time and enjoyed the empty island. Never in a million years would have believed 1 year later we would be still debating whether it was safe to go again. However, assuming we don’t test positive before departure we have no plans to cancel. We are all boosted and understand what precautions we can take to minimize our risk.
OP what part of CA will you be traveling?Many areas, particularly in the Bay Area have done very well throughout the pandemic because vaccine percentages, mask wearing and general precautions people take are good. I would feel less anxiety traveling to one of the counties around here than other places in the US that do not have similar percentage of compliance.
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Post by milocat on Dec 16, 2021 18:06:37 GMT
People were flying out of Canada all last year when there were travel advisories. People were flying to the US all along when the land border was closed. Go if you want to go. We haven't went because of the potential for it to be a gong show. I don't agree with people getting PCR tests before coming back and then randomly getting tested again when they land in Canada. Both are negative and they still want you to quarantine for 14 days and take 2 more tests. Who can afford that Russian roulette? And why are they doing that, this was before omicron.
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Post by kelly8875 on Dec 16, 2021 18:41:46 GMT
I'm not Canadian, but I wouldn't risk it. What if you can't get home? We were tentatively planning a trip to Hawaii from the mainland next month, and I just cancelled it yesterday. I don't want to risk traveling that far, and have something change. Whether it be us getting sick, or rules changing with Hawaii's regulations.
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Post by sawwhet on Dec 16, 2021 22:10:05 GMT
I think that is a bit of an overreaction. Very few, if any places will impose lockdowns again (I think Australia is the only place that is still actively doing it). If you travel to a location that has a low vaccination rate then that is on the traveler. Coming from the US to Canada shouldn't be an issue. Canada should not be barring their own citizens from going home. Take the damn test at the airport and call it good (not directed at OP but the Canadian government). Canadian citizens can't be barred from returning to Canada. It's in our Charter of Rights that we can come and go as we please. That's why the border was never truly closed. If you're returning from vacation, you may be forced to quarantine. They may also stop flights from different locations which would hinder your ability to return. The gov't is stating that the situation is fluid and the rules may change upon your return. You won't be denied at the border but you may have trouble getting to the border.
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Post by sawwhet on Dec 16, 2021 22:13:45 GMT
paigepea Canada CANNOT stop you from going home. Just go. They can't stop a Canadian from crossing the border but what they are saying is that the rules might change while you're away OR your flights might be cancelled indefinitely. Then you see people crying on the news because they're stuck in Mexico (or which ever country) and can't get home. 🙄 You may be required to quarantine for 14 days. They're giving advanced notice.
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