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Post by mrsshampoo on Jan 2, 2022 12:57:17 GMT
Right before break, I went into my daughter’s preschool classroom to help with their holiday party. There was a little boy, in the corner, crying. The teachers said that he had been crying all day, everyday (9-3:30pm), for the last week due to a double ear infection. His parents said he had to be in school, because they had to work. This poor boy was visibly sick and in pain. The preschool director was aware, and did nothing, so he cried in class for 5 days straight. This doesn’t sit comfortably with me, but maybe this is normal for “daycare.” I put “daycare” in quotes because I was under the assumption that I signed up for a 2.5 hour preschool class - what I got was a full day class that my daughter only attends 2.5 hours of. I was totally mislead. That may have been on me, but my older one attended the same preschool, and it was preschool, not daycare. Same application, same options - different executions.
This situation, along with some other things, is really making me nervous to send my daughter back tomorrow. The entire preschool room is so sterile (is that because of Covid cleaning protocols?) - very few toys, no kind of sensory table, etc. The kids don’t even do play dough and many crafts. It is worksheet after worksheet after worksheet.
Is this the new preschool/daycare norm? Thoughts?
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Post by peabay on Jan 2, 2022 13:00:24 GMT
This is daycare and bad daycare. I’d find another option for my kid. That poor child with the ear infection. Makes my heart hurt.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 2, 2022 13:02:51 GMT
In my opinion there should never be worksheets in a preschool room. I don't even like them in the younger grades of elementary. I know there are preschools that use them a lot and that really focus on academics and personally I would never send my kids to one like that. My kids' preschool had dress-up and a play kitchen and sand and water, etc. The "academics" came from singing and painting and just exploring. And, that little boy with the ear infection is too sad. I'm sad for the parents that they have to make the decision to send their kid to school sick because they have to work. But that preschool director should not be just ignoring it!  |
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Post by christine58 on Jan 2, 2022 13:10:00 GMT
Right before break, I went into my daughter’s preschool classroom to help with their holiday party. There was a little boy, in the corner, crying. The teachers said that he had been crying all day, everyday (9-3:30pm), for the last week due to a double ear infection. His parents said he had to be in school, because they had to work. This poor boy was visibly sick and in pain. The preschool director was aware, and did nothing, so he cried in class for 5 days straight. This doesn’t sit comfortably with me, but maybe this is normal for “daycare.” I put “daycare” in quotes because I was under the assumption that I signed up for a 2.5 hour preschool class - what I got was a full day class that my daughter only attends 2.5 hours of. I was totally mislead. That may have been on me, but my older one attended the same preschool, and it was preschool, not daycare. Same application, same options - different executions. This situation, along with some other things, is really making me nervous to send my daughter back tomorrow. The entire preschool room is so sterile (is that because of Covid cleaning protocols?) - very few toys, no kind of sensory table, etc. The kids don’t even do play dough and many crafts. It is worksheet after worksheet after worksheet. Is this the new preschool/daycare norm? Thoughts? That’s neglect on the parents and daycare. That little boy is being neglected. I’d find a different preschool |
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Post by paigepea on Jan 2, 2022 13:13:00 GMT
If the crying boy can’t be consoled by a caregiver then he shouldn’t be there. This sounds like daycare and bad daycare. There should be warmth and toys and fun, whether it’s preschool or daycare. If you are allowed in to help then I would say the sterile environment isn’t about covid because if they were that worried you wouldn’t be in to help. Did management change between your two kids? I’d be looking around for something else. If you want 2.5 hour preschool you’re probably looking for play based learning and routines.
I wouldn’t pull my kid just because parents dropped their kid with a double ear infection. But if they can’t console him and are just leaving him that would bother me. Did they console him all day and you saw just a time when they needed a break. We’ve been through a double ear infection. It caused fever but no crying. Was that the real reason he was crying.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jan 2, 2022 13:20:13 GMT
I would not send my child back there. We need to meet certain guidelines for equipment for each age level; manipulatives, cognitive toys, dramatic play equipment, books, musical instruments etc. Even with COVID children still need supplies.
The child with the double ear infection is whole other issue and I would be calling the state about that one. That is outright abuse of that child.
There are too many red flags about the quality of this program to ignore. Trust your gut on this one.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jan 2, 2022 13:21:42 GMT
I spent a lot of time in preschool classrooms professionally, and I have thoughts. 😁 Many preschool/ daycares stress academics. Fewer toys, less playtime, and a focus on the alphabet and numbers. IMO, this is not a good approach. The best preschool rooms that I worked in focused on learning through play. Adults actually spending time on the floor with the kids, and working on social skills and language by play. This is harder than it sounds. I know that in recent years, many classrooms have become more academic and sterile, and it saddens me. Now, those good preschools did introduce letters and numbers, but in an age appropriate way. And I don’t care if you can recite the alphabet backwards; if your child does not develop good language and social skills, it doesn’t matter. Is your child developing imaginative play skills? It might be interesting to Google play development hierarchy and see the different levels of play. Can the child switch activities? Is your 4 year old-just an example- being encouraged to take turns? Are they learning to sit in a circle, listen to a story and answer questions? Is the teacher scaffolding those questions according to the age and ability of the child? These things matter. Ok, stepping off my soapbox now. This is a subject that is near and dear to my heart. I would say that you should probably look for a more age-appropriate preschool. That little boy should not have been made to come to school. But things like that unfortunately happen all of the time. ETA: Off topic, but if anyone works with preschoolers, this is a compelling question hierarchy from Australia: salda.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SALDA-Blanks-level-of-questioning.pdf |
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Post by mrsshampoo on Jan 2, 2022 13:39:05 GMT
If the crying boy can’t be consoled by a caregiver then he shouldn’t be there. This sounds like daycare and bad daycare. There should be warmth and toys and fun, whether it’s preschool or daycare. If you are allowed in to help then I would say the sterile environment isn’t about covid because if they were that worried you wouldn’t be in to help. Did management change between your two kids? I’d be looking around for something else. If you want 2.5 hour preschool you’re probably looking for play based learning and routines. I wouldn’t pull my kid just because parents dropped their kid with a double ear infection. But if they can’t console him and are just leaving him that would bother me. Did they console him all day and you saw just a time when they needed a break. We’ve been through a double ear infection. It caused fever but no crying. Was that the real reason he was crying. The preschool director was new the year my son attended. She’s overhauled it in the last two years, and in my picky opinion, not for the better. Previously, it was one of the best and most recommended preschools in the area. So good, in fact, that we actually kept my son there for private K-8. With what I have witnessed this year in the preschool program, I wouldn’t have considered continuing onto kindergarten. And no, there was not one caregiver that could console the poor kid for 5 days. They put him in a cot in the corner. They sent out a photo of the kids in their holiday concert gear, and he’s in the photo crying. Covid or not, I even tried to hug and console that poor kid (masked and sanitized) while I was at the holiday party. Thinking back, both my kids had ear infections over break....they felt better a day or 2 after starting antibiotics. I wonder if the poor kid was even being treated for the double ear infection - 5 days is a long time with no improvement  |
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Post by Merge on Jan 2, 2022 14:22:36 GMT
I’ll agree with what everyone else has said, and also add - the school director and teachers are mandated reporters. That little boy is suffering medical neglect if he’s not been treated for an ear infection and it needs to be reported.
The flip side of that is that we need laws that require employers to give paid sick leave for parents to care for sick children. In the case of very small businesses, this can be subsidized leave to avoid crippling them. I’ve seen so many sick kids dropped off because mom and dad couldn’t afford to miss a day’s pay. In a wealthy country like this, it’s disgusting and there’s no reason for it.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 2, 2022 16:20:48 GMT
I understand where the parents are coming from, especially at the end if the year when they probably dont have PTO remaining and cant just take off. If they know he has a double ear infection, I would imagine that he is on antibiotics- but they are clearly not working if he is still in that much pain. Honestly, I feel for those parents, but if they are first time parents, they may not realize that the antibiotics arent working. The daycare should tell them
That being said, the caregivers at my ds' daycare/preschool would have made us come get him.
You should ask them about the lack of play items and see what the reasoning is and ask them how they can remedy that.
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Post by littlemama on Jan 2, 2022 16:22:45 GMT
Also, a quality daycare is also a preschool, no need to put daycare in quotes as if it is somehow less.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 2, 2022 16:43:52 GMT
Holy hell's bells. I have many, many opinions on this, but I am typing on my phone and that makes it so difficult.
That child's medicine is not working if he is crying that much due to pain. There could be other reasons that child is crying and parents and teachers are using ear infection as an excuse. I am livid and sad for that child. How did he react to you trying to comfort him? We had a child in our Pre-K prepandemic that would get emotional about things and not want anyone near him. If you approached him he would scream and cry harder. We would always make sure there was a teacher within about 5 ft of him. That's about as close as we could get. Keeping an eye on him and letting him work it out and reassuring him from a distance that when he was ready he could come talk to us and it would take about 10-15 minutes. But I'm sure we looked negligent to the classroom teachers in the school for that 10-15 minutes.
All day that's not a acceptable.
Worksheets all day or not okay either. We do use a cutting and pasting worksheet once or twice a week because frankly the parents like them. They are always a cut and paste one, typically matching rhyming words, sequencing, or opposites. We offer 6 table activities a day and over the course of a week that is 30 options, 1 or 2 are worksheets out of 30.
At our 3 morning or afternoon activities (we offer one set of activities before lunch, one after) both sessions always have art. The other activities could be language (creative writing, letter recognition, rhyming, name recognition, letter formation -when the individual child is ready-, language games, etc), sensory (dough,slime, shaving cream etc), science or premath ( patterns, sorting, one to the one corresponding, games, etc) or a teacher led game.
The kids move freely from activity to activity when they want if they want. If they do not choose to do a table activity they have a variety of options. They have a shelf with games and puzzles. They have bins with different building manipulatives and animals and things to play with. We have a library area, We have a dramatic play area that changes every month and we have what we call the quiet table. Where one or two children can sit and work on an activity that sits out there.
Our program is by no means perfect but what your describing sounds terrible and I would absolutely be looking for another program.
These changes you are noticing cannot all be COVID-related. We are not allowed to have people in the classroom at all. Not even for drop off or pick up but we still have toys and manipulatives out for the kids. We just sanitize them at the end of the day and the kids are masked all day and we pass out in hand sanitizer anytime we go in and out of the room before we eat after we eat etc.
We have three teachers in the room at all times. Two tables are teacher-led one tables what we call the independent table. The other teacher is playing on the floor with the kids reading them stories if they need it stuff like that.
No one would ever accuse our classroom of being sterile or boring. I imagine sometimes parents are horrified when they walk in and see their child up to their elbows and shaving cream at a table or the art table looks like glue and construction paper factory blew up on it. But at the end of our time we all work together to clean our room up and get ready for the next part of our day
The classroom you described makes me sad.
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 2, 2022 16:51:13 GMT
I should have so much him that in between activity times we do a circle time two to three times a day. They last about 10-15 minutes. We read stories several times a day. We have quiet time in the middle of the day. We go outside as much as we are allowed to. We sing songs. We play group games. We enjoy snack and lunch together. These are the ways children learn.
It worries me that you mention craft projects. One good art project should let the kids use their imagination. Their scissor skills, their gluing skills. Their fine motor skills. It could include a sensory portion (finger paint, bubble wrap or sponge painting, texture combs, yarn, tissue paper etc) You can't do that with work sheets or a "here are all your supplies make it look like my example" craft project.
Again still typing on phone. I apologize for weird typing and formating and sentence structure as I am utilizing speech to text.
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Post by mrsshampoo on Jan 2, 2022 17:34:12 GMT
Also, a quality daycare is also a preschool, no need to put daycare in quotes as if it is somehow less. Sorry! I didn’t mean it as offensive. There are wonderful daycares out there. I just meant that The kids come in and out of this preschool classroom at all different times, much more like a flexible daycare, than a preschool program classroom that has a set start and end time (which is how this was advertised to me). Does that make sense? Like I thought I signed up for a preschool class that went from 9-11:30am, but we have some students not arriving until 11, while some students leave at 11:30, and most stay all day. I will even add that last year, my daughter attended the preschool program within a daycare. All students were in the preschool classroom from 9-12pm. There wasn’t any coming and going at different times during preschool class times. |
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 2, 2022 17:51:25 GMT
Also, a quality daycare is also a preschool, no need to put daycare in quotes as if it is somehow less. Sorry! I didn’t mean it as offensive. There are wonderful daycares out there. I just meant that The kids come in and out of this preschool classroom at all different times, much more like a flexible daycare, than a preschool program classroom that has a set start and end time (which is how this was advertised to me). Does that make sense? Like I thought I signed up for a preschool class that went from 9-11:30am, but we have some students not arriving until 11, while some students leave at 11:30, and most stay all day. I will even add that last year, my daughter attended the preschool program within a daycare. All students were in the preschool classroom from 9-12pm. There wasn’t any coming and going at different times during preschool class times. We offer full day and 2 half day sections, so some kids are there all day some come for only morning or only afternoon. Some come full days once or twice a week and half day others. We offer that because we are a mixed age classroom and for some kids all day is just too long. Maybe the full day option was full and that is why you were only offered half a day? It is odd if kids are coming and going willy nillly, but not necessarily if they offer different sessions. For instance we offer 9-245 and 9-12 and 1145-245. The 1/2 day kids overlap by 15 minutes during our gym time so they both get equal time. |
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Post by bunnyhug on Jan 2, 2022 20:02:49 GMT
I hope that you find a different option for your child--this isn't what any good preschool OR daycare should look like. Period.
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Post by pancakes on Jan 2, 2022 20:39:56 GMT
My toddler attends a daycare/preschool — they accept kids all the way from infant to just before kindergarten.
I think it’s somewhat fine if they are into worksheets, if they are clear with parents that’s their method of learning. It is not my preference so I wouldn’t go there, personally. Also, art projects might not be brought out until later in the day. I do think it’s a little weird there’s few to no toys, but I don’t know, so I can’t fault them.
I’m more concerned about the ear infection kid. It’s nuts that no one was consoling him. And like you said — a kid is WORLDS better after 24 hours with antibiotics for the ear infection. It sounds like he’s not getting medication. I would be concerned about the caretakers and his parents.
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Post by luckyjune on Jan 2, 2022 20:41:45 GMT
Also, a quality daycare is also a preschool, no need to put daycare in quotes as if it is somehow less.Thank you for this. The daycare my kids attended (all adults now) treated daycare like all-day preschool. There was another building on the property with a 2.5 hour preschool program in it. This place was unassuming, child-centered, and based their curriculum on what the kids were interested in. Once word got around that it was the best place for kids, the preschool-only program took off, complete with the moms who referred the the kids (mine included) who were there all day as "Those poor daycare kids." Hahahaha! The daycare program was full of teachers' kids and they had the time of their lives! What kid would not want to run around on a farm all day? That little group bonded and I'm still friends with the teachers and the other parents today. |
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 2, 2022 22:51:54 GMT
I would begin looking for another program. In the meantime, I would schedule a meeting with the director. Ask your questions and see what the answers are. Perhaps the toys were put away for the party? And ask the same questions of any potential preschool.
Due to military moves, my kids were in three different preschools. Worksheets were treated as more of an opportunity to practice writing, following visual cues, and number recognition, although I seldom saw them. One school did not use them at all.
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Post by pajamamama on Jan 3, 2022 0:03:19 GMT
Get your daughter into a real preschool.
This is NOT normal, and those women who let that poor child suffer should have reported
his parents for neglect.
Terrible.
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Post by beaglemom on Jan 3, 2022 0:58:32 GMT
My daughter is in preschool. I am a sub for the school so I have subbed in her classroom a couple of times a month since the beginning of the year. She will be 4 in March. There are no worksheets. They have outside time every day. There are cleanable toys that are available (and sanitized daily). They each have their own art boxes (crayons, markers, scissors) and then communal items (papers, stickers) that they can use for self-directed art daily, plus weekly directed art projects. They also have their own individual sensory boxes and playdough boxes. They have been having a fabulous time and they are way better about masks than most adults I know!
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Post by mrsshampoo on Jan 3, 2022 1:27:34 GMT
I am just really confused what is happening this year. For example, I was told that they were beginning simple math. I thought that would patterns, shape recognization, number and number word recognization, and writing numbers. The worksheet was addition and subtraction. Another example of what the heck is my daughter probably completed 10 worksheets practicing the letter “Q”, but no practice on proper capitalization of her first and last name - actually no practice writing her last name at all. Then there was the 9 page coloring book that she was supposed to color all in a row (busy work!) - she complained that her hand hurt, and they made her do more (stopping was not an option). Circle time started at 20 minutes on the first day and will increase to 25 soon. The teacher told me that my daughter is “bored” during circle time. How the heck does a child get bored singing songs and reading stories? I am a very observant person, and super picky, so most people wouldn’t even question what is going on. But here I am, struggling.
ETA: There was one toy dragon that the 18 kid fought over, and my daughter told me that the teacher gave it to the other class. Why was the class’ favorite toy taken away?
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Post by Skellinton on Jan 3, 2022 2:57:12 GMT
I am just really confused what is happening this year. For example, I was told that they were beginning simple math. I thought that would patterns, shape recognization, number and number word recognization, and writing numbers. The worksheet was addition and subtraction. Another example of what the heck is my daughter probably completed 10 worksheets practicing the letter “Q”, but no practice on proper capitalization of her first and last name - actually no practice writing her last name at all. Then there was the 9 page coloring book that she was supposed to color all in a row (busy work!) - she complained that her hand hurt, and they made her do more (stopping was not an option). Circle time started at 20 minutes on the first day and will increase to 25 soon. The teacher told me that my daughter is “bored” during circle time. How the heck does a child get bored singing songs and reading stories? I am a very observant person, and super picky, so most people wouldn’t even question what is going on. But here I am, struggling. ETA: There was one toy dragon that the 18 kid fought over, and my daughter told me that the teacher gave it to the other class. Why was the class’ favorite toy taken away? There are too many red flags for my brain to focus on completely. Every single thing you posted is completely inappropriate for a pre-k class. 20 minute circle time? Forcing a child to color? Please find another center for your child. |
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Post by mrsshampoo on Jan 3, 2022 3:29:40 GMT
I am just really confused what is happening this year. For example, I was told that they were beginning simple math. I thought that would patterns, shape recognization, number and number word recognization, and writing numbers. The worksheet was addition and subtraction. Another example of what the heck is my daughter probably completed 10 worksheets practicing the letter “Q”, but no practice on proper capitalization of her first and last name - actually no practice writing her last name at all. Then there was the 9 page coloring book that she was supposed to color all in a row (busy work!) - she complained that her hand hurt, and they made her do more (stopping was not an option). Circle time started at 20 minutes on the first day and will increase to 25 soon. The teacher told me that my daughter is “bored” during circle time. How the heck does a child get bored singing songs and reading stories? I am a very observant person, and super picky, so most people wouldn’t even question what is going on. But here I am, struggling. ETA: There was one toy dragon that the 18 kid fought over, and my daughter told me that the teacher gave it to the other class. Why was the class’ favorite toy taken away? There are too many red flags for my brain to focus on completely. Every single thing you posted is completely inappropriate for a pre-k class. 20 minute circle time? Forcing a child to color? Please find another center for your child. Thank you for the confirmation. I really appreciate all your input on this post. |
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Post by natscraps on Jan 3, 2022 5:52:26 GMT
I teach PreK. My class meets 3hrs a day 5 days a week and consists of older 4 and 5 year olds. All will attend kindergarten next year. We do use worksheets daily but that only accounts for 15-20 minutes of our day max. We do not currently have a sensory table due to Covid but provide other sensory opportunities. As for the addition… it is part of the preschool content standards here, but there are definitely more developmentally appropriate ways of teaching it.
Unless it is a co-op preschool, I am surprised they have helpers in the classroom at all with pandemic precautions. On one hand you were there only one day and may not have gotten the whole picture but I always say you have to trust your mommy gut and do what you feel is best for your child. With what you’ve told us about this I would be looking elsewhere.
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Post by katiejane on Jan 3, 2022 12:33:23 GMT
From what you have described I would he looking first an alternative early years settling. It sounds developmentally inappropriate. Child directed play has been shown through studies as the best way to engage children in play.
Also that little one needs to be reviewed by a medical professional. I would bloody hope that a setting would only except the child after they have been seen by a medical professional and has started medication. I would be advising parents to contact their Dr for a review if no improvement after a couple of days let only a week.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 3, 2022 13:10:48 GMT
I am just really confused what is happening this year. For example, I was told that they were beginning simple math. I thought that would patterns, shape recognization, number and number word recognization, and writing numbers. The worksheet was addition and subtraction. Another example of what the heck is my daughter probably completed 10 worksheets practicing the letter “Q”, but no practice on proper capitalization of her first and last name - actually no practice writing her last name at all. Then there was the 9 page coloring book that she was supposed to color all in a row (busy work!) - she complained that her hand hurt, and they made her do more (stopping was not an option). Circle time started at 20 minutes on the first day and will increase to 25 soon. The teacher told me that my daughter is “bored” during circle time. How the heck does a child get bored singing songs and reading stories? I am a very observant person, and super picky, so most people wouldn’t even question what is going on. But here I am, struggling. ETA: There was one toy dragon that the 18 kid fought over, and my daughter told me that the teacher gave it to the other class. Why was the class’ favorite toy taken away? A lot of what you wrote sounds developmentally inappropriate for that age. But I can understand why they would get rid of a toy that all the kids fought over if it was causing a lot of problems. |
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 3, 2022 14:18:32 GMT
I am just really confused what is happening this year. For example, I was told that they were beginning simple math. I thought that would patterns, shape recognization, number and number word recognization, and writing numbers. The worksheet was addition and subtraction. Another example of what the heck is my daughter probably completed 10 worksheets practicing the letter “Q”, but no practice on proper capitalization of her first and last name - actually no practice writing her last name at all. Then there was the 9 page coloring book that she was supposed to color all in a row (busy work!) - she complained that her hand hurt, and they made her do more (stopping was not an option). Circle time started at 20 minutes on the first day and will increase to 25 soon. The teacher told me that my daughter is “bored” during circle time. How the heck does a child get bored singing songs and reading stories? I am a very observant person, and super picky, so most people wouldn’t even question what is going on. But here I am, struggling. ETA: There was one toy dragon that the 18 kid fought over, and my daughter told me that the teacher gave it to the other class. Why was the class’ favorite toy taken away? Trust your gut. If nothing else, your DD isn't happy there. This program isn't a good fit for her. Over the years, I had 2-3 teachers tell me that it was my DS, not her or the classroom. Every time, I found that other complaints were lodged. I'll acknowledge that DS was a challenge in a tradition/worksheet/sit down and be quiet format. But he shined bright when I was able to find a good fit for him. |
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Post by elaine on Jan 3, 2022 14:28:23 GMT
I teach PreK. My class meets 3hrs a day 5 days a week and consists of older 4 and 5 year olds. All will attend kindergarten next year. We do use worksheets daily but that only accounts for 15-20 minutes of our day max. We do not currently have a sensory table due to Covid but provide other sensory opportunities. As for the addition… it is part of the preschool content standards here, but there are definitely more developmentally appropriate ways of teaching it. Unless it is a co-op preschool, I am surprised they have helpers in the classroom at all with pandemic precautions. On one hand you were there only one day and may not have gotten the whole picture but I always say you have to trust your mommy gut and do what you feel is best for your child. With what you’ve told us about this I would be looking elsewhere. I am guessing that since the OP said that she decided to enroll her son in the connected K-8 that it is a private school 🏫, hence different practices in terms of having volunteers in the classroom. (I think that she mentioned it is a private school) It would also make me concerned about the training/certification level of the pre-school teacher. Private schools do not have to hire certified/licensed teachers, unlike public schools. With the nationwide teacher shortage, I wouldn’t be surprised if this preschool teacher isn’t licensed. If I were the OP, I’d find a preschool that met my child’s needs better than this school does. I’d also check to ensure that my son’s teachers are licensed. As for removing the favorite toy, if the children constantly fought over it, it does sound appropriate to remove it. It sounds like the drama around the toy may have been a constant distraction and not supportive of a calm positive environment. That is the least concerning aspect of all that is going on in that preschool, IMO. |
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Post by teddyw on Jan 3, 2022 15:55:38 GMT
I just can’t get past the child with the ear infections was allowed to suffer for 5 days by the parents and the teachers.
I’d find another school for your dd.
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