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Post by dewryce on Feb 11, 2022 4:53:48 GMT
This is a pretty big fear of mine. DH is on blood thinners so any real hit and we are off to the ER, which is typically several times a year. They almost always comment how it’s good that we came in.
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Post by Sue on Feb 11, 2022 7:53:38 GMT
I slipped and took a hard fall down our icy deck stairs about 15 years ago. I broke my leg, among other injuries, and I hit the back of my head on the edge of a stair tread. My head was dented across the back but strangely enough, I wasn't checked for a concussion in the ER, though I'm sure I had one. I was very confused immediately after my fall and couldn't reach my husband because I kept dialing his phone number backwards. As I recovered, many, many smells were nearly intolerable. Any food that had been roasted like coffee or toast was gross to me. The slightest hint of car exhaust was overwhelming in the worst. And many foods that I loved I could no longer stand to eat because of the change in aroma and taste, strawberries, and grapes for example. Being in the vicinity of a Starbucks nearly made me vomit. It took months and months to recover and get back most of my ability to smell normally. To this day I'm unable to smell some things. One of my losses is my ability to smell roses or peonies. I can remember how they're supposed to smell but only that. I now realize how lucky I was that I didn't suffer a serious brain bleed.
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Post by simplyparticular on Feb 11, 2022 13:14:02 GMT
That’s how we lost my grandfather. He fell in assisted living and hit his head on the counter top. Went to breakfast, went back to his little apartment and passed out. Still mad they didn’t notice he was missing from lunch. A window cleaner found him unconscious. He never regained consciousness and had a DNR, so my mom was not prepared for his swift transfer to hospice and death.
I had a staffer fall twice and hit his head at work. Both times he was taken via ambulance to the hospital - we weren’t messing around with that.
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Post by melanell on Feb 11, 2022 13:31:09 GMT
I agree with so much of what has already been said. I do think people have a tendency to under-estimate head injuries sometimes. They feel like if they can get back up and walk away then they must be okay. But lately I've just known or heard of what feels like an increase in people dying from head injuries after falls. And they are not "big" falls. They aren't falls down a flight of stairs, or a fall from a bike or skis, or a fall down a hillside or anything like that. Just a stumble in the house, a fall from a chair, a tumble while playing. I remember as a kid I heard "Don't let someone sleep after a fall" all of the time. It was right there with waiting half an hour after eating swim. And while I did see that mentioned here earlier in the thread, I don't hear it much in real life anymore. And I wonder if now, people lump those two warnings together as both being old wives tales, when in the case of the fall, you really should still be keeping an eye on someone. I also wonder if the current situations in our hospitals has people less inclined to go to an ER in recent years. I was part of a conversation recently with someone who mentioned falling and trying to get in touch with their doctor about it, and when the ER was mentioned by a 3rd person in the group, the person who fell was adamant that they were not going to sit all day in an ER over a little bump on the head. But those little bumps aren't always as benign as we may think they are. It's always such a shock when someone passes away after what seems like an inconsequential (at the time) event.
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Post by scrappyesq on Feb 11, 2022 13:35:02 GMT
Hearing his cause of death made me so sad. I'm sure he thought it was no big deal.
A few years ago I fell backwards on hardwood floors. When I realized that I couldn't remember how I got up off the floor (one minute I was down and then the next thing I remember is standing up) I got scared and called DH. He was out coaching so I called his mom, the family member closest in location to us. Apparently I had a long conversation with her and my SIL about how scared I was of dying. I don't remember this at all. My doorman called an ambulance and when we got outside DH was pulling up behind them. Apparently I finally got in touch with him (something else I don't remember). Went to the ER and confirmed that I had a concussion. For days afterwards I was simply not right. Since I have MS I called my neuro and she wanted to see me IMMEDIATELY so I went to see her first thing the next day. That visit was terrifying too, because it never occurred to me that a head injury might trigger MS issues. When she told me I couldn't read for a few days and I should stay quietly in the bed without much stimulation I realized how serious it was and how much worse it could have been if I hadn't gotten help right away.
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Post by lily on Feb 11, 2022 14:00:09 GMT
Two years ago I slipped on ice and fell, landing entirely on the back of my head (no bruising anywhere else on my body). God that hurt. I was on vacation in Quebec with my adult son, and once he got me back to our rental a couple dozen feet away, I apparently couldn't tell him where we were and the like. I do remember climbing the stairs to get to the front door. I remember sitting in a chair holding ice to the back of my head. Nothing else. He ended up calling the EMTs and I was taken to the hospital. Apparently I lost about 45 minutes in all this. I was in the hospital for the rest of the day (of vacation, boo-hiss), and gave my son (good-natured) crap about all of it. I owe him an apology. Had a similar happening many years ago - we were newly married, I was around 21 years old - I was home alone and carrying a basket of laundry down the basement, dressed for work in my high heels. Heel caught the step and I fell down the steps to the basement slamming the back right side of my head on the concrete. I remember laying there thinking "you are alone you have to get up" - and I don't remember much of what else happened but apparently I got up the stairs, called my mother and was sitting there holding a bag of ice on my head when she arrived. I worked at a hospital so my mom took me to work and my boss insisted I go down to the ER. Back then (early 1980's) they didn't have CTscanners yet so they did an Xray of my head. No fractures, so they said to just stay awake for 12 hours at least. My boss made me sit at work so she could watch me and then my husband came and got me. To this day when I get a headache it is always in that same area on the back right side of my head. I have had MRIs since then for other things but no issues.
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Post by artbabe on Feb 11, 2022 16:23:27 GMT
Christmas eve I tripped in my bathroom and hit my temple on the granite countertop. It broke my glasses. I was really super tired so I just went to bed. Stupid, stupid. I woke up with blood everywhere- I had split the skin open just below my eyebrow. I definitely should have gone to the hospital and got stitches and examined. The next day I had a headache and some nausea. I definitely had a concussion, I'm sure.
I could have so easily died. I just wasn't thinking about the gravity of the situation when I did it and then went to bed.
Now I have a big jagged scar on my browbone but I kind of like the way it looks.
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Post by bunnyhug on Feb 11, 2022 16:41:38 GMT
My kids played hockey, ringette, baseball, softball, and football all through their school years, and all three of them had concussions at least twice with my dd having more like six or eight over the years. The sports communities were finally taking concussions seriously starting about 10 years ago, so all of our team coaches and trainers had to take courses on concussion protocols, and minor sports associations started to come up with some more 'serious' rules about what to do when someone "got their bell rung"--instead of just shaking it off and keeping on playing! About 5 years ago, I fell on some ice when I was walking to work and hit my head on the ground. I worked my full day, went home, made supper, and just got on with my day until after supper my very concussion-savvy kids realized that I was repeating myself in conversations and forgetting things and showing other (very familiar to them!) signs of being concussed while not realizing it myself. They bundled me off to a quiet, dark room and took away my electronics and kept an eye on me and even called my boss to tell her that I wasn't allowed to come to work the next day or until they decided I was recovered! If I had been home alone, I don't know that I ever would have realized that something wasn't right with me ... brain injuries are so scary!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 11, 2022 20:38:38 GMT
He also had an enlarged heart and one side was 95% blocked and Covid (but that doesn't really play into this). He has skull fractures around his eyes. He must have hit his head pretty damn hard!
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Post by MichyM on Feb 11, 2022 22:11:02 GMT
He also had an enlarged heart and one side was 95% blocked and Covid (but that doesn't really play into this). He has skull fractures around his eyes. He must have hit his head pretty damn hard! To be 100% clear. He tested positive for Covid upon his death. He had Covid in December, and one can continue to test positive for some time after (contact tracers told my adult son up to 90 days) the virus has been cleared.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 11, 2022 23:28:52 GMT
He could have been assaulted earlier and still have fallen asleep 'normally'. He was laying on a bed with his laptop.
My friend's elderly mom was found sitting in her bed with her glass placed on the book in her lap.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 16, 2022 19:33:31 GMT
I see that the family is working to have the information kept private.
What is odd to me were the bruises and injuries to the front of his face. ..well, not my business.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 16, 2022 19:35:37 GMT
After the fact seems strange. They were so up front and willing to speak initially.
The whole thing is sad.
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Post by disneypal on Feb 16, 2022 19:44:17 GMT
I see that the family is working to have the information kept private. What is odd to me were the bruises and injuries to the front of his face. ..well, not my business. I find that odd too - it doesn't sound like he just banged his head on something and then was like "Oh, I will be okay" - with the fractures and bruising and such...it sounds like he may have been assaulted, got into a physical altercation with someone or had a terrible fall (maybe down some stairs). I am sure his family knows the details and just doesn't want it released. I can understand that. I mean, whatever caused it, the main thing that matters is that the family knows what happened. I can understand their request for privacy now.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 16, 2022 20:05:32 GMT
I see that the family is working to have the information kept private. What is odd to me were the bruises and injuries to the front of his face. ..well, not my business. He could have tripped and fallen face first though. I haven't seen the news, were there bruises to both the front and back of his head? That would be ode, but if they were only on the front of his head, not so much.
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Post by zima on Feb 16, 2022 20:19:29 GMT
I can understand their request for privacy now. I think ALL these reports should be private. I hate that when it's someone famous/rich they want different treatment. But my dad's cause of death deserves no similar consideration of privacy. Will people be looking up my dad's report? No. But, for me, the issue is equal treatment under law.
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Post by milocat on Feb 16, 2022 20:34:33 GMT
A couple of years ago, I fell at work and hit my forehead HARD on the tile/cement floor. I had quite a headache and a visible lump. I came home, but was afraid to go to sleep. So I called my primary care physician….LOL….no I didn’t. I asked the Peas. And y’all said get my butt to the ER. So I did. I was fine, but I’m glad I went (even though it cost almost $1,000. And I didn’t even have a scan. Just talked to a doctor). Anyway….the doctor told me that injuries to the back of the head are much more concerning. I guess we don’t have as much protection back there. Our foreheads are very thick. Still….I will take any head injury seriously. Oh that's interesting about the front vs back of the head. Older DD when she was a toodler fell and hit her head on the fireplace hearth and instant goose egg. I called the health link number and they said swelling on the outside is a good thing. DD18 had her wisdom teeth removed last summer. She was doing well, teeth felt good. She went to the bathroom, felt dizzy, so rushed back to her room. Fell band banged her head. Her eye was cut and bruised. But felt ok. She went back to work a couple days later and threw up at work. So she had a mild concussion. You never know about a head injury.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Feb 16, 2022 23:35:21 GMT
I had read earlier that injuries were to both front and back of his head. Posterior skull fx, and frontal bruising and fx's around his eye orbits. It's all very odd.
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Post by putabuttononit on Feb 16, 2022 23:53:18 GMT
I could be wrong but to me it seems like there’s more to this story. I think more details will be coming out that may be unsettling. For one thing it seems like his family/cast friends people are being very quiet, no PSAs about falls or concussion etc. That’s unusual.
Years ago I was loading a horse (hot blooded Arab who thinks his own shadow will eat him). I snapped his rope on inside the trailer (he was found with the snap on so we know I did it but no memory of it). Apparently he pulled back, broke his halter and hit me in the left side of my head. The force knocked me into the inside of the metal stock trailer, clocking me on the right side of the head. I was knocked out cold and someone heard the commotion and saw my baseball cap fly out of the “escape” door (because I’d hit it so it swung open a bit). When I came to I was disoriented, felt nauseated and couldn’t walk for a bit. My friends decided to drive me to the hospital rather than wait for an ambulance since we were pretty remote. At the hospital I was treated for concussion and the doctor said I’d probably never remember that day at all. I did remember parts of the day but have never gotten back any part of what I did inside the trailer. I couldn’t ride for a month! No stimulation or screens or work. I felt “okay” after a week but I stuck to the protocol. I have PTSD inside any horse trailer now. A friend has to be there and often I get so shaky that someone else puts my horses in for me.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 17, 2022 0:25:09 GMT
Head injuries are nothing to mess with. Several years ago a friend’s mom was helping her move out of her classroom at the end of the school year. She was carrying a box of stuff and slipped down some concrete stairs and hit the back of her head hard on the steps. She ended up in the hospital for quite a while but she eventually recovered. She broke some bones in her neck too but thankfully wasn’t paralyzed.
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Post by gizzy on Feb 17, 2022 1:08:00 GMT
I'm interested in learning what happened to him but can understand why his family wouldn't want to let it all out there.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 17, 2022 2:45:51 GMT
Just caught a quick blurb. What they want held involves the photos, autopsy reports as well as the finer details.
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Post by melanell on Feb 17, 2022 14:30:43 GMT
I don't necessarily find injuries to the front and back of one's head after a fall to be odd. It's definitely possible to hit something else on your way from sitting or standing to the floor or ground, unfortunately, whether it be a railing, furniture, other steps if one falls on stairs, part of a car, etc.
I also agree that as time goes on, a family may start to feel like enough is enough with people knowing every detail of their loved one's passing. I imagine it can be very difficult on grieving families and friends when their loved one was someone famous.
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Post by maryland on Feb 17, 2022 16:19:25 GMT
Yesterday, my daughter called me from college (5 hrs. away). She was very sick with the same virus she had two weeks ago. Fever, bad sore throat, weak, tired. She went to health center at school and was negative for covid, flu and strep. She called me as she was walking back to her dorm.
Twenty min. later, my other daughter called and said my college daughter passed out in front of her dorm, got a huge bump on the side of head because she hit the concrete hard. A woman was nearby and called 911. A fire truck, ambulance and police car came and she was rushed to hospital with sirens on. She ended up being fine, we were so thankful! My parents live near campus so they brought her home to their house. After hearing what happened to Bob Saget, I was so grateful to the woman that called 911.
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Post by busy on Feb 17, 2022 16:22:31 GMT
I have a hard time believing that he “didn’t think anything of” any injury severe enough to cause skull fractures. It sounds more like something that happened he didn’t want to seek care for because he didn’t want the circumstances to be public - and no one was there to convince him otherwise. That the family wants things withheld seems to align with that. It’s sad no matter what happened.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 17, 2022 17:29:38 GMT
I have a hard time believing that he “didn’t think anything of” any injury severe enough to cause skull fractures. It sounds more like something that happened he didn’t want to seek care for because he didn’t want the circumstances to be public - and no one was there to convince him otherwise. That the family wants things withheld seems to align with that. It’s sad no matter what happened. My mom tripped and fell and broke her nose while taking stuff to the recycling center. The people who saw her fall wanted to call the ambulance but she kept refusing. She finally let someone call my cousin who came to get her and drove her straight to the hospital over my mom's protests. There was zero reason for my mom to not want to go to the doctor other then embarrassment. People are weird. I broke my kneecap and didn't go to the doctor for several months because I didn't think anything was wrong. People brush things off all the time. There could be a salacious reason he didn't go to the doctor, but it could be just embarrassment or brushing it off.
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Feb 17, 2022 17:52:06 GMT
Yesterday, my daughter called me from college (5 hrs. away). She was very sick with the same virus she had two weeks ago. Fever, bad sore throat, weak, tired. She went to health center at school and was negative for covid, flu and strep. She called me as she was walking back to her dorm. Twenty min. later, my other daughter called and said my college daughter passed out in front of her dorm, got a huge bump on the side of head because she hit the concrete hard. A woman was nearby and called 911. A fire truck, ambulance and police car came and she was rushed to hospital with sirens on. She ended up being fine, we were so thankful! My parents live near campus so they brought her home to their house. After hearing what happened to Bob Saget, I was so grateful to the woman that called 911. oh my gosh! I’m glad she’s ok and have grandparents nearby.
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Post by maryland on Feb 17, 2022 18:03:11 GMT
Yesterday, my daughter called me from college (5 hrs. away). She was very sick with the same virus she had two weeks ago. Fever, bad sore throat, weak, tired. She went to health center at school and was negative for covid, flu and strep. She called me as she was walking back to her dorm. Twenty min. later, my other daughter called and said my college daughter passed out in front of her dorm, got a huge bump on the side of head because she hit the concrete hard. A woman was nearby and called 911. A fire truck, ambulance and police car came and she was rushed to hospital with sirens on. She ended up being fine, we were so thankful! My parents live near campus so they brought her home to their house. After hearing what happened to Bob Saget, I was so grateful to the woman that called 911. oh my gosh! I’m glad she’s ok and have grandparents nearby. Thanks! The doctor said because the bump was close to the front and on the side, and no concussion symptoms, they weren't concerned. But it's hard when we are 5 hrs. away. We are in the middle of serious health issues for our dog, and I was at the vet for the second time yesterday when I heard about my daughter. I don't even want to imagine our medical/vet bills for the past couple months! But I am just glad she is okay and only has to miss two days of classes. She didn't eat or drink yesterday, and that is what they think caused her to pass out.
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Post by melissa on Feb 19, 2022 23:52:50 GMT
[td class="left-panel" rowspan="2"] [/td] [td class="content"] [article] Bob Sagets cause of death [abbr title="Wed Feb 16 2022 18:35:21 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)" class="o-timestamp time" data-timestamp="1645054521000"]Feb 16, 2022 at 6:35pm[/abbr] mom, used2scrap, and 1 more like this Quote [input type="checkbox" class="ui-manager-checkbox"] Post by cindyupnorth on [abbr title="Wed Feb 16 2022 18:35:21 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)" class="o-timestamp time" data-timestamp="1645054521000"]Feb 16, 2022 at 6:35pm[/abbr] I had read earlier that injuries were to both front and back of his head. Posterior skull fx, and frontal bruising and fx's around his eye orbits. It's all very odd. [/article][/td][/quote]
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Post by peabay on Feb 20, 2022 0:07:08 GMT
Yesterday, my daughter called me from college (5 hrs. away). She was very sick with the same virus she had two weeks ago. Fever, bad sore throat, weak, tired. She went to health center at school and was negative for covid, flu and strep. She called me as she was walking back to her dorm. Twenty min. later, my other daughter called and said my college daughter passed out in front of her dorm, got a huge bump on the side of head because she hit the concrete hard. A woman was nearby and called 911. A fire truck, ambulance and police car came and she was rushed to hospital with sirens on. She ended up being fine, we were so thankful! My parents live near campus so they brought her home to their house. After hearing what happened to Bob Saget, I was so grateful to the woman that called 911. Glad to hear she's okay!
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