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Post by Legacy Girl on Apr 16, 2022 6:14:51 GMT
So, I have the tremendous luxury of not having to awaken early in the morning. And therefore, I often don't. But since that is the case, I have within the last couple of years developed anxiety about early-morning events that I need to participate in. I worry even before I go to sleep that I won't get enough sleep and may miss my early wake-up time. Because I am a night owl, I try to figure out the latest time I can go to sleep and still get enough shut-eye. I get into bed and anxiously lie awake watching the clock tick down the hours until the time that my alarm will go off.
In the end, it's all the anxiety about waking up that keeps me from sleeping. I do take anxiety medications and I would not want to mix them with melatonin or other sleep aids. Just wondering if anyone else has faced this issue and has found a way to sleep soundly, even knowing that the alarm clock will sound at an hour earlier than it usually does. TIA!
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Post by katlady on Apr 16, 2022 6:41:44 GMT
I am a night owl. I get up early for work, and I usually go to bed later than I should. There are times when I can’t fall asleep until around 2 and that does get me anxious that I’ll be too tired the next day. Or the worse is when you know you are not sleeping soundly and are basically waking up every hour. I don’t have any solutions for you. I do exercise in the early evening, so that usually makes me tired enough to fall asleep. But there are those nights when it doesn’t help. I don’t take any medications for it. Hope you can get some rest!
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Apr 16, 2022 6:46:30 GMT
I have going to sleep anxiety. PSTD from marriage related abuse.
My weighted blanket has helped me the most. I still struggle to fall asleep, but it's not as bad as it use to be. Once I am asleep, I sleep deeper and longer.
Edited to add: I also take meds to help me sleep.
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Post by J u l e e on Apr 16, 2022 8:16:08 GMT
Insomnia is awful, isn’t it? I’ve been awake for an hour (it’s 4 am) and finally picked up my phone because I hate lying awake. I know you’re not supposed to, but I find I fall asleep again much faster if I read a little.
I have no problem falling asleep, but I don’t stay asleep. I’ll wake up as If someone flipped the light on and stay wide awake, without the luxury (or ability) to sleep in. My body also wakes up around 6 am regardless of how many hours I was awake during the night. I definitely have anxiety surrounding sleep.
I just started hrt (just picked up my prescriptions yesterday) and my doctor said this should definitely help. I am really hoping so, because this is miserable.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 16, 2022 10:54:03 GMT
J u l e e I have the same problem - can't STAY asleep. I fall asleep quickly at 10 pm or so, but often wake up between 2-4 am. I get up, read, decide I'm freezing and go back to bed. I can usually fall back asleep at that point. Staying in bed is useless. It's been a little better recently. If it continues, I will ask my doctor about taking Trazodone. That helped my husband. Legacy Girl I have always had trouble sleeping the night before anything that means I have to get up early. It doesn't matter if it's something fun or something I just have to do. It's annoying!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 10:58:32 GMT
I have a flexible job but so have to get up early for in person meetings here and there. They don't happen very often so when they do, I find myself sleeping very little the night before, waking up practically every hour. I end up needing extra caffeine to get through the day. Not to mention the social battery drain I experience as well.
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Post by lgr4 on Apr 16, 2022 11:32:53 GMT
I have this weird thing. I can sleep during the week, but let the weekend happen and I'm up at 4. It's been like that for almost a year!
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 16, 2022 13:46:20 GMT
I too suffer from insomnia - usually the waking up at 3 am type. The funny thing is I'm actually an early riser - almost always up between 6 and 7, but I STILL have anxiety about missing early morning flights. I've finally just stopped booking them as I'd be up every hour the night before checking the clock. I'm following this thread to see if anyone has any tips for early rising anxiety.
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Post by paigepea on Apr 16, 2022 13:52:51 GMT
This used to be me for years. I’ve had enough days on no sleep that I do manage to get through so now I don’t get anxious anymore. Once you realize you can make it through anything you need to you will stop being stressed about it.
Other things I did when I couldn’t sleep to help: turn tv on and fall asleep with tv on. When I’m concentrating on something else my brain turns off of thinking about sleeping or the anxiety and I’m able to fall asleep.
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Post by peasquared on Apr 16, 2022 18:41:10 GMT
So, I have the tremendous luxury of not having to awaken early in the morning. And therefore, I often don't. But since that is the case, I have within the last couple of years developed anxiety about early-morning events that I need to participate in. I worry even before I go to sleep that I won't get enough sleep and may miss my early wake-up time. Because I am a night owl, I try to figure out the latest time I can go to sleep and still get enough shut-eye. I get into bed and anxiously lie awake watching the clock tick down the hours until the time that my alarm will go off. In the end, it's all the anxiety about waking up that keeps me from sleeping. I do take anxiety medications and I would not want to mix them with melatonin or other sleep aids. Just wondering if anyone else has faced this issue and has found a way to sleep soundly, even knowing that the alarm clock will sound at an hour earlier than it usually does. TIA! I am the exact same! If I have to set an alarm, which is rare, I do NOT fall asleep the night before. Even if my alarm is set for a time later than what I normally wake up naturally. It's ridiculous. I just lay there all night. This is even with a sleep aid. I'll be following this thread for help!
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Post by Gem Girl on Apr 16, 2022 18:45:23 GMT
Maybe it would help to set multiple alarm clocks, with at least 1 far enough away that you have to get up to turn it off.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 16, 2022 19:34:34 GMT
Growing up and my whole working career I had to put an alarm clock across the room. Had to get up to turn it off. I had them check the loudness of alarms IN THE STORE before I would buy one. I mostly do not need an alarm anymore, but for appointments I set my phone for three different times leading to 'I have to get up time.' So far so good.
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Post by sunny1016 on Apr 16, 2022 19:46:59 GMT
I just started hrt (just picked up my prescriptions yesterday) and my doctor said this should definitely help. I am really hoping so, because this is miserable. I have had pretty bad insomnia for over 20 years now. I usually fall right asleep -but sometimes its only 15 minutes later and I am wide awake. Ugh. Anyway I started hrt almost 2 years ago. Now, I can't stay asleep OR fall asleep. It sucks!
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Post by RosieKat on Apr 16, 2022 20:00:28 GMT
Yeah, I'm another who usually falls asleep fine but can't stay asleep. I took some meds for a few years that helped, but they also helped me gain a ton of weight and contributed to body resistance in losing said weight. I'm now off the meds, and amazingly, doing the exact things I've been doing are now helping me lose weight. But SUPPOSEDLY these meds don't cause weight gain. Right.
I have lately been getting out of bed for a while in the middle of the night and yeah, looking at my phone or laptop or something. It seems to actually be helping me some. Who knows? I'm not on HRT as such as I'm not officially there, but I take BCPs and have done so forever - don't even take the week of placebos since I take them due to severe endometriosis. So, I shouldn't really need HRT or anything at this point, although I do know I am still having some minor breakthrough symptoms.
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Post by pjaye on Apr 17, 2022 1:06:07 GMT
I'm a night owl and I work night shift. Getting up early is right out of my pattern and very difficult for me so I do worry that I'll oversleep if I have to get up early. I have a friend who lives 3 hours away and when I go to see her the bus leaves at 7:30am so I have to get up at 5am. It almost kills me! The solution is more than one alarm.
I have an an Echo show clock on my bedside table so I set the alarm on that, then I set my phone alarm for 10 minutes later and it repeats every 10 mins until I turn it off and then I have the alarm on my watch which vibrates 5 minutes after the phone alarm. I've never slept through 3 alarms, so I just roll over and go to sleep because I'm confident that all those alarms will wake me on time.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 17, 2022 2:30:55 GMT
Staying in bed tossing and turning is not so good. If I cannot just relax in bed if I wake up, I get up and do slow motion something. I will turn on the TV if necessary, loud enough to hear so I am not straining to hear but barely..
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Post by Legacy Girl on Apr 17, 2022 3:25:16 GMT
Thanks, everyone. Last night was a short one, for sure! I think I got about two hours sleep. I did try not looking at the clock. But DH was restless and we kept disturbing each other while he slept and I tossed and turned, so that didn't help at all. I tried square breathing and counting backwards from 1,000 by threes. I made it all the way down to one, so clearly that didn't help! ScrapbookMyLife, I don't think I've ever heard this referred to as "going to sleep anxiety," but that's the perfect term. I'm so sorry you understand, and even more sorry for the domestic abuse that triggered yours. I'm considering all of your posts and ideas, and I really appreciate the feedback. I especially appreciate knowing I'm not alone. Thanks for your help, everyone!
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Post by paulao on Apr 17, 2022 3:42:09 GMT
I have sleep anxiety. I worry that I won’t fall asleep. Fortunately I have an understanding PCP who prescribes an anti-anxiety drug Restoril. I take one about an hour before bed. It calms my mind so I don’t worry about falling asleep.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Apr 17, 2022 3:43:32 GMT
Thanks, everyone. Last night was a short one, for sure! I think I got about two hours sleep. I did try not looking at the clock. But DH was restless and we kept disturbing each other while he slept and I tossed and turned, so that didn't help at all. I tried square breathing and counting backwards from 1,000 by threes. I made it all the way down to one, so clearly that didn't help! ScrapbookMyLife , I don't think I've ever heard this referred to as "going to sleep anxiety," but that's the perfect term. I'm so sorry you understand, and even more sorry for the domestic abuse that triggered yours. I'm considering all of your posts and ideas, and I really appreciate the feedback. I especially appreciate knowing I'm not alone. Thanks for your help, everyone! It does describe it perfectly. Once I am asleep, I tend to stay asleep for 3-4 hours. "Going to sleep" that a whole other story. Sometimes easy, sometimes extremely hard (and everything inbetween) >> Mind wandering, anxiety, toss and turn, over-thinking, intense anxiety, sometimes full-blown anxiety attack. I have learned some to help calm me, detour my thoughts, what helps, when to get back up and wait awhile then back in bed for a re-do, etc.... Sometimes I just can't be in the bed (it's psychological), so I sleep on the floor (I pull the mattress and linens off the bed and down to the floor next to the bed).
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Post by Mystie on Apr 17, 2022 5:28:35 GMT
I have similar problems with being unable to fall asleep and it being much worse when I have an unusually early wake-up time scheduled.
I don't take any meds usually because I'm afraid they'll make it too hard to wake up when I need to.
Sleeping on the couch is sometimes helpful. I take a small quilt and wrap it tightly around myself like a cocoon. I don't know why that helps. Weighted blankets are too hot but a lightweight cocoon works often. I also have a favorite podcast where the hosts have pleasant voices and the episodes are long, so I often turn on an episode very low, just barely loud enough to hear what they're saying, and the hum of their voices often lulls me to sleep. And sometimes I do a few yoga stretches and a little deep breathing before I wrap up in my cocoon. These things have helped me more than anything else, after years and years of anxiety insomnia.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Apr 17, 2022 5:45:23 GMT
I do this especially after a break at school. I've tried many sleep aids, but nothing really worked and I was worried about long-term effects such as memory etc. I was prescribed traSADone. It was a miracle although I'm wondering if I need to finally increase the dose. I fell asleep and stayed asleep. There were no middle of the night restroom breaks. It's been about a year and a half, but I am starting to wake up at night although I usually fall asleep easily.
I need my room cool. I do set 3 alarms, one beginning about 45 minutes before I must get out of bed. Eventually this medication may lose it's effectiveness so I don't want to increase the dose, but it's been a miracle. I'm thankful to get my sleep back.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 17, 2022 15:20:57 GMT
OMG yes! I have trouble falling asleep and staying asleep under the best of circumstances, and it’s exacerbated when I know I’ll HAVE to get up at a specific time that’s earlier than usual the next day. I’ll lay there awake, repeatedly running through thinking about all the stuff I know I’ll need to do, remember, etc. the next day, and sometimes I even get up to write myself a note to put next to my purse or luggage or whatever so I’ll be *sure* to remember. At times I’ve been so sleep deprived the next day that I have forgotten the very thing that my brain kept me up half the night worrying about needing to remember.
I had to get an alarm clock that I can turn all the lights off on at night so I can’t see it at all. It’s also positioned across the room so I have to get up to turn it off. It starts to gradually light up five minutes before the alarm goes off, and plays the radio which increases in volume until I turn it off. My dogs usually make me get up between 6:30-7:30 most days anyway so the alarm is just a backup.
I’ve gotten to the point where I will not voluntarily make any appointment for myself or that I have to get my DD to any earlier than 10:00 am unless I have absolutely no other option. I realize that’s not something everyone can do all the time. I’ve noticed it’s much less stressful and it does definitely help with the stress of needing to go to bed at a certain time because I know I’ll be able to get up with plenty of time to get somewhere by 10:00 am.
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Post by maryland on Apr 17, 2022 15:39:15 GMT
I take 2 benadryl or 2 tylenol pm every night to sleep. I wake up several times overnight to go to the bathroom, and can't get back to sleep. Sometimes I take my second benadryl or tylenol when I get up around 1 am to get back to sleep. If I didn't get up to go to the bathroom, I would probably sleep pretty well.
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Post by Gem Girl on Apr 17, 2022 18:00:54 GMT
I take 2 benadryl or 2 tylenol pm every night to sleep. I wake up several times overnight to go to the bathroom, and can't get back to sleep. Sometimes I take my second benadryl or tylenol when I get up around 1 am to get back to sleep. If I didn't get up to go to the bathroom, I would probably sleep pretty well. I assumed anything taken that regularly would lose effectiveness, or give a "rebound effect." Do you think alternating the 2 prevented that? And, I'd like to know whom to blame, because suddenly, after never having to, one night I started having to get up to use the bathroom--sometimes twice. It's as if somebody decided I'm old now, & threw a switch. And I'm younger than 60.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 18:08:26 GMT
I began having sleep issues right after my hysterectomy. I began taking Ambien and made sure I took it while I was IN bed. I fall asleep a few minutes after I take it. I used to stay asleep for 8 hours, but since I lost my DH, I've been waking up at about 3 am. I stay in bed and fall back to sleep. That "broken sleep" makes me tired the next day. Funny, DH was the one with severe sleep issues. He said that he had them as far back as he could remember. He used to take the family housephone and he'd speak to the operator until he fell asleep! He'd only be in bed for 5 hours at most and then he'd have to get up and go to his recliner. He usually fell asleep again watching a movie on his laptop.
I wish we all didn't have sleep issues. I'd have to tie mine in with a limited appetite and just being worn out and not healthy right now.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 17, 2022 21:42:03 GMT
I have this happen as well. For example, last month DS had a basketball tournament in a town about an hour away. I needed to wake up at the same time I always do, but the night before I slept horribly because I kept worrying that I was going to oversleep. That seems to happen a lot when we have early games, even if technically I don’t have to be up any earlier than I normally wake up.
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Post by maryland on Apr 17, 2022 21:57:57 GMT
I take 2 benadryl or 2 tylenol pm every night to sleep. I wake up several times overnight to go to the bathroom, and can't get back to sleep. Sometimes I take my second benadryl or tylenol when I get up around 1 am to get back to sleep. If I didn't get up to go to the bathroom, I would probably sleep pretty well. I assumed anything taken that regularly would lose effectiveness, or give a "rebound effect." Do you think alternating the 2 prevented that? And, I'd like to know whom to blame, because suddenly, after never having to, one night I started having to get up to use the bathroom--sometimes twice. It's as if somebody decided I'm old now, & threw a switch. And I'm younger than 60. Me too! I never understood why my husband always had to get up overnight to go to the bathroom. Now I have to as much as he does. It started for him in his 30s and me when I was about 40.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Apr 18, 2022 3:27:03 GMT
I take 2 benadryl or 2 tylenol pm every night to sleep. I wake up several times overnight to go to the bathroom, and can't get back to sleep. Sometimes I take my second benadryl or tylenol when I get up around 1 am to get back to sleep. If I didn't get up to go to the bathroom, I would probably sleep pretty well. You need to be really careful with this. Taking Benadryl or other antihistamines regularly to help you sleep has been shown to cause an increase in dementia and Alzheimer’s. You should talk to your doctor to see if there is a safer alternative for long term use.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 18, 2022 11:10:31 GMT
I have similar problems with being unable to fall asleep and it being much worse when I have an unusually early wake-up time scheduled. I don't take any meds usually because I'm afraid they'll make it too hard to wake up when I need to. Sleeping on the couch is sometimes helpful. I take a small quilt and wrap it tightly around myself like a cocoon. I don't know why that helps. Weighted blankets are too hot but a lightweight cocoon works often. I also have a favorite podcast where the hosts have pleasant voices and the episodes are long, so I often turn on an episode very low, just barely loud enough to hear what they're saying, and the hum of their voices often lulls me to sleep. And sometimes I do a few yoga stretches and a little deep breathing before I wrap up in my cocoon. These things have helped me more than anything else, after years and years of anxiety insomnia. When I get up at 3 am and read, I do better wrapped in a quilt on the couch, too! I'm glad I'm not the only one. I think part of it is it is colder in the LR than the BR, so I sleep better.
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Post by Mystie on Apr 18, 2022 15:29:17 GMT
I have similar problems with being unable to fall asleep and it being much worse when I have an unusually early wake-up time scheduled. I don't take any meds usually because I'm afraid they'll make it too hard to wake up when I need to. Sleeping on the couch is sometimes helpful. I take a small quilt and wrap it tightly around myself like a cocoon. I don't know why that helps. Weighted blankets are too hot but a lightweight cocoon works often. I also have a favorite podcast where the hosts have pleasant voices and the episodes are long, so I often turn on an episode very low, just barely loud enough to hear what they're saying, and the hum of their voices often lulls me to sleep. And sometimes I do a few yoga stretches and a little deep breathing before I wrap up in my cocoon. These things have helped me more than anything else, after years and years of anxiety insomnia. When I get up at 3 am and read, I do better wrapped in a quilt on the couch, too! I'm glad I'm not the only one. I think part of it is it is colder in the LR than the BR, so I sleep better. Yes, the temperature definitely has something to do with it, since I'm in menopause and hot all the time. In the living room, I can crack a window by the couch and turn a fan right on myself!
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